MikeZA: NOPE.

its very possible but some African countries don't have the ballz for such Λ coalition

ZeusAyo: its very possible but some African countries don't have the ballz for such Λ coalition

Yes,on the ground not in the air. Similar to Vietnam,but our soldiers would need to be brain washed first.

MikeZA: Yes,on the ground not in the air. Similar to Vietnam,but our soldiers would need to be brain washed first.

Brainwashed!!!!! Lmao. True we can win that war if we utilize Λ lot of advanced SAMs thereby denying them aeriel access because the moment we get those fighters into the air, they would be cleaning up there pieces with Λ mop when they hit the ground And also antiship missiles surounding the entire continent( you can say it again Λ logistics nightmare). But NATO would never allow it

ZeusAyo: Brainwashed!!!!! Lmao. True we can win that war if we utilize Λ lot of advanced SAMs thereby denying them aeriel access because the moment we get those fighters into the air, they would be cleaning up there pieces with Λ mop when they hit the ground And also antiship missiles surounding the entire continent( you can say it again Λ logistics nightmare). But NATO would never allow it

Heh lol Remember MH-17? The plane that was shot down in Ukraine by the BUK missile used rebels. Let that sink that all armies in sub-saharan Africa don't have such missile or capability. We have poor coastal and air defencem

MikeZA: Heh lol Remember MH-17? The plane that was shot down in Ukraine by the BUK missile used rebels. Let that sink that all armies in sub-saharan Africa don't have such missile or capability. We have poor coastal and air defencem

that means we really need some serious planning. It would be nice if each region had something like ecomog with modified boeing aircrafts and antonovs for air mobility with bases something like NATO inshort with standing defence treaty that no matter what happens or with so-ever, members are liable by law to help each other in terms of war either conventional or unconventional and it might also be extended trade

ZeusAyo: that means we really need some serious planning. It would be nice if each region had something like ecomog with modified boeing aircrafts and antonovs for air mobility with bases something like NATO inshort with standing defence treaty that no matter what happens or with so-ever, members are liable by law to help each other in terms of war either conventional or unconventional and it might also be extended trade

Yes,it is still not settled who's going to be responsible for air mobility under for ASF. Regarding "help",democracy must come first.

MikeZA: NOPE.

mike gave the best answer. A nope with no explanation, haha 1st of they will jam all communications on the continent. Then b4 the ships arrive they will sent a dozen long range non balistic missiles to level top 5 countries with the best arsenal (softening the target) when all the top 5 have been neutralized. The rest of us on the continent will drop on our knees and start repenting our sins and start begging for mercy

Hahahahahahahahahhahaha!!! ....The question should be how long can the whole of Africa hold the US off...

skullz: Hahahahahahahahahhahaha!!! ....The question should be how long can the whole of Africa hold the US off...

Yep,we simply don't have the industrial muscle to do such. Unless with massive support from both China and Russia.

denisfidha: mike gave the best answer. A nope with no explanation, haha 1st of they will jam all communications on the continent. Then b4 the ships arrive they will sent a dozen long range non balistic missiles to level top 5 countries with the best arsenal (softening the target) when all the top 5 have been neutralized. The rest of us on the continent will drop on our knees and start repenting our sins and start begging for mercy

To costly. They will just fund a bunch of opostion forces and let them fight for them. Aka regiem change.

ZeusAyo: that means we really need some serious planning. It would be nice if each region had something like ecomog with modified boeing aircrafts and antonovs for air mobility with bases something like NATO inshort with standing defence treaty that no matter what happens or with so-ever, members are liable by law to help each other in terms of war either conventional or unconventional and it might also be extended trade

It is called the African stand by force. It still ment to hapen some time. Problam so region is fully ready. The only region that pulled of a joint traning exersize is SADC. The UN FIB was ment to be a SADC intervenstion force.

zaandrew:

It is called the African stand by force. It still ment to hapen some time. Problam so region is fully ready. The only region that pulled of a joint traning exersize is SADC. The UN FIB was ment to be a SADC intervenstion force.

Yep,we(SADC) couldn't fund the mission. I'm still a bit sceptical,on whether the brigades will be well used. 1.On who decides for the brigade to deploy? 2. Would they engage local government forces? ..............

MikeZA: Yep,we(SADC) couldn't fund the mission. I'm still a bit sceptical,on whether the brigades will be well used. 1.On who decides for the brigade to deploy? 2. Would they engage local government forces? ..............

AU.

No.

Amisom

Captured Al-shabaab Ammo

In truth, this topic isn't even up for discussion. We cannot militarily take on the americans, except if we engage them in an Insurgency.

However in an all out conventional war, with all countries pulling in all their resources like in world war 2, like @denisfdha has typed, the rest of our population should knell down and make peace with our creator.

zaandrew:

AU.

No.

That's my problem. The UN and AU are slow to deploy. 1. What would've done in Libya,when Gaddafi announced his forces where marching to Bengazi?

MikeZA: That's my problem. The UN and AU are slow to deploy. 1. What would've done in Libya,when Gaddafi announced his forces where marching to Bengazi?

Who said it was in the AU best intrist to remove Gaddafi. Even the west will regret it. At leat libya was stabel under him.

MikeZA: Yes,it is still not settled who's going to be responsible for air mobility under for ASF. Regarding "help",democracy must come first.

regarding the air mobility, its supposed to be Λ regional thing with @ with each member nation donating Λ certain sum so as to acquire required aircrafts and gadgets for such Λn alliance. Also, infrastructure it would be ideal to merge both airbase and army base together so as to save cost and then create Λ regional Naval task forece equiped with LPDs and LAVs with corvettes since they are multirole serving as escorts for the ships so it would be ideal to look east for such quantum hardware purchase since they have high tech devices for reasonable prices. That way there should be 5 commands in the entire africa each comprising of Λ Navy(green water) and Army(COIN& Conventional) the army would have its own aviation wing with all the CAS platforms and Air Mobility platforms they can acquire. That way, the command can have access to any region and combat any kind of threat posed by any kind of aggressor. Also on the issue of training, the command should also copy soviet era training techniques of Λ utilizing some sort of training city or simulation centres to practice all kinds of warfare in that place. Am just saying my mind ø but it would be nice if africa could unite like that. Btw, the above is open to criticism

zaandrew:

Who said it was in the AU best intrist to remove Gaddafi. Even the west will regret it. At leat libya was stabel under him.

I'm not saying remove him. But what was I trying to put is what would the AU have done in such scenario. No clear command structure.

MikeZA: I'm not saying remove him. But what was I trying to put is what would the AU have done in such scenario. No clear command structure.

Best opstion is nothing.

There goes the mind set, I thought of this issue knowing that Africans don't believe in our selves and what we can do, obama called for a summit with African leaders because even America was scared of what we can become in feature when we liase with the Eastern world like china......check out our military hardware in subsahara Africa, all are not from US with the exception of North Africa countries like egypt etc, if the whole of US cannot win in Vietnam, Taliban, AL Quada and ISIS then they have no reason to blame Kenya for not winning Al shabab and Nigeria and Boko haram, even their baby the isreali which have Hamas on a confined sq metre cannot win the war with all their Apache, F16's , Riper drones, F35 lightenng,, then we should never be blamed, except for our selfish currupt leaders, I don't believe in one Africa but believe we can be great.... VIVA AFRICA..

jteku: Its amazing ,all the country the hardwares ETC.......But I just thought of something, can all the African armforces combine together win a war againts the United States.

not even Europe minus Russia can do it.

S.A sniper Rifle

Helghast: S.A sniper Rifle

Designated marksmen rifle. SA uses a couple of versions.

denisfidha: more OLN

better KDF will win against those terrorists

denisfidha: advantages of schooling inside a military barracks

i always wish to be trained by KDF but cant get through the normal process because am short...but i can use my education to join them but cant find a way

MorrisaMkenya:
i always wish to be trained by KDF but cant get through the normal process because am short...but i can use my education to join them but cant find a way

it's nice to see a fellow mkenya.
for cadets you can apply anytime. you just have to have a mean B plain from Highschool (with above C+ in math, english and one science) If you have a degree the better, anything goes from lawyers, to computer scienctist. once you get in you will need to undergo a further 3 years basic military science course.
and oh, you can't have a criminal record.

MikeZA: Designated marksmen rifle. SA uses a couple of versions.

oh my bad, but the site I got it from said we use that as an Infantry sniper rifle, and we use an Upgraded R1 as a Designated Marksman Rifle.

Helghast: oh my bad, but the site I got it from said we use that as an Infantry sniper rifle, and we use an Upgraded R1 as a Designated Marksman Rifle.

both R4 and R1 have DM versions the SF all so have G3 DM and other stuff (M16a2 with M203)

Helghast: oh my bad, but the site I got it from said we use that as an Infantry sniper rifle, and we use an Upgraded R1 as a Designated Marksman Rifle.

Yes,the SANDF uses both upgraded R1 and R4 in the DM role. Snipers are usually found in the support elements of the force.

mortar combat

andrewza:

both R4 and R1 have DM versions the SF all so have G3 DM and other stuff (M16a2 with M203)

Oh shweet dude I'll check that out, I'm very jealous of the Sf because they get to pick any rifle the want, unless its a deep penetration mission where they have to use modern rifles that use the type of ammunition that's is very common to that place :[