darknetcom:


the congo??..

why?..

this doesnt make sense..

what are this whites up to again??...

Henry240:


It is unlikely that NA would go for that vehicle, infact it is unlikely that they'll even go for anything for that matter. The army seems to be perpetually stuck in the middle of nowhere like Courage the cowardly dog.


As for me, I'm done speculating, i got my hopes perpetually smashed by the military in 2016. I'm simply going to respect myself and look forward to the launch of SDB III. Anything concerning acquisition(s) is over for me.

British intelligence agency GCHQ spied on africa leaders,opposition leaders,businessmen,african companies,military and intelligence heads,african embassies e.t.c this is from data cache of the former NSA (National Security Agency) operative Edward Snowden

Dozens of politicians, diplomats, military and intelligence chiefs, members of the opposition and leading business figures were wiretapped across the continent.This rare overview of modern satellite espionage could hardly be less technical and abstract, for it not only names the victims of intercepts but also reveals the scale of a surveillance operation spanning an entire continent. That continent is Africa. New documents shown to Le Monde, in collaboration with The Intercept, from the data cache of the former NSA (National Security Agency) operative Edward Snowden, originally given to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, offer unprecedented insight into information on twenty African countries collected by GCHQ, the British intelligence service, between 2009 and 2010.Dozens of lists of intercepts examined by Le Monde journalists stem from a specific period of operations by GCHQ technicians. These reports celebrate GCHQ’s success in redirecting flows of satellite communications, and conclude that the agency could now proceed with systematic data collection.The lists of hundreds of intercepts by GCHQ contain the names of heads of states, incumbent or former prime ministers, diplomats, military and intelligence chiefs, members of the opposition and leading figures from the world of business and the financial industry. These actions violated the political, economic and strategic sovereignty of twenty African countries, many of whose leaders were allies of Great Britain.GCHQ’s main targets were heads of state and prime ministers. Although the UK was Kenya’s main trade partner, in March 2009 the British secret services intercepted communications by President Mwai Kibaki and his closest strategic advisers, as well as eavesdropping on Prime Minister Raila Odinga. They followed the same approach in Angola, Africa’s largest oil producer, which has been governed by President José Eduardo Dos Santos since 1979. The intercept reports show that Luanda’s presidential palace was under surveillance. At the time of the intercepts, Angola was suffering from a crash in commodity prices, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Luanda to boost strategic cooperation between the two countries. Great Britain provided information to the United States to ensure the latter retained its stranglehold on the region.

GCHQ also conducted massive intercepts in Nigeria, a former British colony and member of the Commonwealth. British agents listened in on phone calls by President Umaru Yar’Adua, his aide-de-camp and his main advisers, including his principal private secretary and his special adviser. GCHQ also targeted the vice-president of the continent’s most populous country and the largest economic power in the region. As the Nigerian head of state was already sick (he died on 5 May 2010), his successor Goodluck Jonathan’s phone line was also on the list of planned intercepts.

Yet GCHQ did not focus exclusively on politicians. The lists also feature some of the continents’ leading businessmen and bankers including the Kenyan Chris Kirubi. The Nigerian billionaire Tony Elumelu, regarded as one of Africa’s richest and most influential men, was also targeted by British agents in 2009. A friend of Nigeria’s then president Umaru Yar’Adua, Elumelu was at the helm of the United Bank for Africa (UBA).

The data includes the contact details of the Nigerian ministers of finance and oil, as well as those of various telecommunications operators and of major banks such as Zenith Bank. There are also details about the immensely wealthy Dahiru Mangal, the region’s smuggling kingpin, who hails from Katsina like the Nigerian president, and provides financial backing to his own president and to the head of state of Niger. In Lagos, Nigeria’s economic capital, the British made sure that they listened in on the telecommunications of the Africa Finance Corporation, a pan-African financial institution that funds infrastructure investment. Its vice-president Solomon Asamoah came in for particularly heavy surveillance.

As part of U.S.-Chadian efforts to counter Boko Haram in the Lake Chad Basin, the United States will provide 60 Toyota David Light Armored Vehicles to the Chadian Task Force. The first twenty vehicles were presented by Lt. Col. Charles Lewis, U.S. Chief of Security Cooperation at the U.S. Embassy in N'Djamena, and received by General Guinambaye Barde, Chadian second Deputy Chief of Staff, in a ceremony on Dec. 8, 2016.

africaken254:
i dont think there is any particular reason for this meeting,just Trump trying to show he will maintain a close interest on issues concerning Africa.this is the wrong president to talk with issues concerning Libya(just shows how his administration is confused)

jakeporeshenko:
What is the name given to this ungodly sized riverine boat operated by Nigerian navy ?

africaken254:
i dont think there is any particular reason for this meeting,just Trump trying to show he will maintain a close interest on issues concerning Africa.this is the wrong president to talk with issues concerning Libya(just shows how his administration is confused)

jakeporeshenko:
What is the name given to this ungodly sized riverine boat operated by Nigerian navy ?

jakeporeshenko:
What is the name given to this ungodly sized riverine boat operated by Nigerian navy ?

Patchesagain:

I bet no one can name the guns on that boat

Henry240:


3 x 12.7mm

1 x 40mm grenade launcher

Patchesagain:

Name the 12.7, jackass

jakeporeshenko:


Henro they better not try it or else Odunayaw and myself will organize angry mob to protest at army HQ in Abuja, COAS and the gang seem willing and able to go shopping for new assets, the only thing that seems to be missing is the finance. Now is the time wether recession or no recession, if they don't acquire now, in the next 1 year when Boko haram is history politicians will have reasons to withhold funds.
We will begin to hear "competiting demand"

Henry240:


Singapore Kinetics 12.7mm HMG.

Patchesagain:
Sorry for off topic

But... The Turks (and their Leo 2A4s) aren't doing so well...

Patchesagain:


CIS 50MG

Unique for its duel feed set up, allowing the gunner to switch seamlessly between Ball, AP or SABOT (yes, SABOT)

Singapore makes great guns, can't believe more people aren't adopting them as you can see above, further:

The Ultimax is a SAW that basically has no recoil

Henry240:


You mean from Al Bab alone, what about from other fronts? How could they have lost 11 Tanks, 10 Leos in Al Bab, what are they even doing?

How many tanks have they lost in general, I know the Kurds killed a couple Patton tanks initially, any ideas?

Patchesagain:
Sorry for off topic

But... The Turks (and their Leo 2A4s) aren't doing so well...

Patchesagain:


Leo's are only around Al-bab, but no one really knows what the fvck is going on along the Turkish/IS front - many conflicting stories

They posted an entire troop of Leo 2's deep inside "Indian Territory" without decent infantry or combined arms support and got buttsexed with ATGMs/Suicide bombers

Turks have been completely pushed outside of Al-bab now

Retards, complete retards

Henry240:



** I'll like to correct an error i made a couple weeks back on the size of Turkey in NATO. I initially said Turkey has the 4rd largest military in NATO behind the US, UK and France.

Actually the Turks have the 2nd largest military in NATO, only behind the US.

In my opinion, Turkey deploying Tanks and IFVs, without large scale Infantry was a very bad idea. Syria sits right on the border, the idea of copying Western partners in sending only SF is a bad, terrible idea. Not like their Special Forces have been effective anyway, i mean, when compared to the Russians, the other SF units operating in Syria seem to be a bunch of over-pampered babies.

The Turks would eventually take Al bab, but the losses we are currently seeing could have been avoided.

africaken254:
whats will infantry do when your enemy is targeting your armour using ATGM with ranges of 4 -7km !(most of the clashes between ISIS and turkish troops aren't in densely urban areas) also turkey having more personnel does equate to strength.china has the second largest air force in the world but most of the planes are second generation MIG-21 variants

africaken254:
whats will infantry do when your enemy is targeting your armour using ATGM with ranges of 4 -7km !(most of the clashes between ISIS and turkish troops aren't in densely urban areas) also turkey having more personnel does equate to strength.china has the second largest air force in the world but most of the planes are second generation MIG-21 variants

Henry240:



** I'll like to correct an error i made a couple weeks back on the size of Turkey in NATO. I initially said Turkey has the 4rd largest military in NATO behind the US, UK and France.

Actually the Turks have the 2nd largest military in NATO, only behind the US.

In my opinion, Turkey deploying Tanks and IFVs, without large scale Infantry was a very bad idea. Syria sits right on the border, the idea of copying Western partners in sending only SF is a bad, terrible idea. Not like their Special Forces have been effective anyway, i mean, when compared to the Russians, the other SF units operating in Syria seem to be a bunch of over-pampered babies.

The Turks would eventually take Al bab, but the losses we are currently seeing could have been avoided.

Henry240:


Infantry would allow the Turks provide a coordinated and well targeted response, irrespective of the distance the ATGM is fired from.

Quantity is it's own quality. The US for instance has 1.2 million soldiers. We tend to forget this.


In the Kurks battle, for every T-34 destroyed by the Tiger tank, the Russians responded with 2 or 3 more, until the Russians eventually overwhelmed the Germans.

Turkey having the second largest military in NATO is an advantage, however their surgeon into Syria seems to suggest their are gaps in the quality of NATO training.

MikeCZA:

unrelated: They all almost look the same.

jakeporeshenko:


Henro they better not try it or else Odunayaw and myself will organize angry mob to protest at army HQ in Abuja, COAS and the gang seem willing and able to go shopping for new assets, the only thing that seems to be missing is the finance. Now is the time wether recession or no recession, if they don't acquire now, in the next 1 year when Boko haram is history politicians will have reasons to withhold funds.
We will begin to hear "competiting demand"

MikeCZA:
They provide a screen.

In Angola in the initial stages of the 88 battles South Africa deployed "Tank hunter teams" equipped with missiles. The Angolans simply used infantry to screen the tanks.

They aren't destroyed at long ranges.