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Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Fabulous36(f): 9:44am On Sep 24, 2013
lottoe:
I guessed the government

The three are to be blamed.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Bome01(m): 9:46am On Sep 24, 2013
ayusco85: Apportioning blame won't wake the dead. Fix the damn bridge and arrest the driver. Why did he fled the scene if he aint guilty?
So that the angry Soldiers will lynch him? He did the right thing!
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by cachal: 9:47am On Sep 24, 2013
Ridding bike or not, this Lagbus drivers are animals.. you need to see dem drive like they gat immune for accident.. they are no different from the old moluwe drivers..

(Soldiers will surely) deal with some drivers before the day run out..
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Nobody: 9:48am On Sep 24, 2013
The driver wuld hv been killed by angry mobs/soldiers if he didn't leave d scene..RIP Soldier,and 2 d passenger dat was also on d bike,Get well soon..
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by vislabraye(m): 9:48am On Sep 24, 2013
Licensed-2-Kill:
There nigerian soldiers always behavin lyk a robot nd think they ar always a version above the normal citizens. . .must everythin involvin them must be chaotic

What do you expect them to do ?

The driver is very lucky. Some of these Lagbus drivers are very rough. They don't observe traffic rules.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by MrAboki: 9:48am On Sep 24, 2013
Godjone: you sound lıke a senceless beıng that need redemptıon. Where ın the eye wıtness account was the soldıer fauty? Go and get ur soul locked up ın the cage tıll eternıty. I.d.ı.o.t


Bros!!

Points of correction::

1. Scenceless is spelt SENSELESS..

2. Fauty is actually FAULTY..



3. The Soldier may not at fault, but the soldier was wrong.. I hope you can understand this point.

A'salam Aleikum!
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by obailala(m): 9:59am On Sep 24, 2013
ayusco85: Apportioning blame won't wake the dead. Fix the damn bridge and arrest the driver. Why did he fled the scene if he aint guilty?
Do you live in Nigeria?.. if not, have you ever lived in Nigeria??... I suppose all the passengers of the bus who also fled the scene are also guilty?
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Nobody: 10:00am On Sep 24, 2013
Mr Aboki:



Everyone in this order;


Soldier: Commited suicide by delibrately putting himself in harms way. If it wasnt a bad bridge, it might as well have been a burst tyre or failed brakes, or even braking suddenly.. THE SOLDIER SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN ON THAT BRIDGE RIDING A BIKE


DRIVER:: Has the least blame.. We dont know the speed he was doing for sure. If the road was bad, anybody could have fallen victim. He tried to control the vehicle and had the Bike not been riding on that bridge illegally, he would have brought his vehicle back under control after hitting that section on the bridge without any casualty..

GOVERNMENT:: Eko oni ba je o!! Fashola is truly working.. grin Working on killing as many Lagosians via road accidents as possible.. grin



FINALLY:: Lets not attribute this to bad driving.. The Driver was not responsible for the pothole being there. Anybody could have hit that pothole.
gbam.. Case closed, next news please.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Highjayklm(f): 10:02am On Sep 24, 2013
Mr Aboki: Is a Bike supposed to be on that road for starters?!
some type of bikes are allowed to ply the route, anyway u knw how soldiers can be: feeling like bosses. RIP soldier
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by pembisco(m): 10:03am On Sep 24, 2013
Me tink d soldier assured d bike man to trend dt road knwin fuly wel dt bikes ar banned frm using d road bt since he tinks he is a SOLdie, nobody fit stopam. *my asumptn sha*
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Mannylex(m): 10:03am On Sep 24, 2013
May his soul rest in peace... Atleast this would draw fashion's attention to the dilapidated bridge, and make provision for repairs... I just hope the soldiers won't lash out like mad dogs and punish innocent citizens
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Slizbeat(m): 10:04am On Sep 24, 2013
R.I.P to the dead soldier.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by shegzi(m): 10:05am On Sep 24, 2013
tyson99: Na God save d driver say any other soldier no pass as at the time of the incident he for dey see the person the soldier wey die in heaven from here in naija


RIP to the gallant soldier
thank God he ran for his life he would have been dead by now
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Xano(m): 10:16am On Sep 24, 2013
Mr Aboki:


He fled out of fear.. Abi you dont know Nigeria again?! Talkless of a matter where the dead person now happens to be a soldier..



If this were a sane country, the guy would not have run..
The Biker seems to be a fault because from the looks of that picture, that road is not one on which bikes are allowed to to ply on.
The max the driver would face would be manslaughter.. And I doubt he would get any jail time.
you are not a lawyer. You don't know how many count charge the driver will be charged with. Murder(manslaughter),attempted murder, bodily harm, reckless driving, damage to property,etc
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by funtanherb(m): 10:23am On Sep 24, 2013
ayusco85: Apportioning blame won't wake the dead. Fix the damn bridge and arrest the driver. Why did he fled the scene if he aint guilty?
oh really either quilty or not,he would have been dead by now if he didnt run
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by otokx(m): 10:24am On Sep 24, 2013
The government should close the bridge down and have it repaired while the family of the soldier should be treated like the colonial masters that are being paid about 9 million naira for the next 20 years even though they are aged 81 - 106 years.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by legalcode(m): 10:30am On Sep 24, 2013
Am waiting to hear from the Governor of Road Rehabilitation ( FASHOLA) ........if its to commission one small road, he'll rush with all his newspaper towncriers and LTV, now human life is involved he cant come out to say something. Foolish Fashola.

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Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Reptyle(m): 10:32am On Sep 24, 2013
The soldier don die wrongfully be that o! Fashola don ban okada for qall this road but as soldier concern e feel like say em dey above d law.

It is a shame sha. RIP to the dead.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by born2boink(m): 10:34am On Sep 24, 2013
The Driver sabbi code of conduct of nigerian soldiers, if he diid not run, he would have been dead and possible accompany by some of his passengers, that's why passengers fled too
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by simafem(m): 10:41am On Sep 24, 2013
this would certainly not be the END
cos it's been happening right from TIME immemorial
we'll still see more of these THINGS
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by vislabraye(m): 10:41am On Sep 24, 2013
Mr Aboki:


Bros!!

Points of correction::

1. Scenceless is spelt SENSELESS..

2. Fauty is actually FAULTY..



3. The Soldier may not at fault, but the soldier was wrong.. I hope you can understand this point.

A'salam Aleikum!

Pls explain how the soldier was @ fault.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by MrAboki: 10:47am On Sep 24, 2013
Xano:
you are not a lawyer. You don't know how many count charge the driver will be charged with. Murder(manslaughter),attempted murder, bodily harm, reckless driving, damage to property,etc


1. Murder?! - I think not.. This case lacks the Mens Rea & Actus Rea for it to be murder. For murder to occur, These two elements must be there.

2. Manslaughter - Thats all that this is.. And not all manslaughter cases carry jail time.

3. Attempted Murder - Of who?! The passenger I guess?! Well.. That charge wouldnt stick. You have to prove that the Drivers intent was to kill the passenger as well, and that would be an uphill task for any prosecutor to prove.

4. Bodily Harm:: Hmmm... Again, How do you prove this. He didnt go out of his way to harm them They just so happened to be riding ILLEGALLY on a road that they werent meant to be on, thus getting involved in an accident Assuming gthey were not even responsible for the driver hitting that pothole in the first place

5. Reckless Driving: I believe that this charge is for the Dead soldier and not the driver...

6. Damage to Property: Thats for the BRT|Lagos State government to bring against the dead soldier..



Just in case you are thinking of more chrages to bring against the Driver:

7. Hit and Run:: This one might stick.. But the driver would have a good defence if he turns himself into the police willfully..


FINALLY: The driver is inncent of all charges except 'Hit & run" as it is an offence to flee the scene of an accident in Nigeria.. Other than this, he is clean. The Soldier knew what the risks were for riding on a road illegally and paid the ultimate price. He would have been charged to court if he didnt die from the accident. The passenger should also give thanks go Olisa bi na igwe for her life..


And No. I'm not a lawyer.. Just an Aboki.

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Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Reptyle(m): 10:47am On Sep 24, 2013
vislabraye:

Pls explain how the soldier was @ fault.

He was wrong to be riding a bike on a road upon which bikes are banned. The bus driver was however at fault according to eyewitnesses, for not been more careful thus leading to the loss of a life.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by MrAboki: 10:55am On Sep 24, 2013
Reptyle:

He was wrong to be riding a bike on a road upon which bikes are banned. The bus driver was however at fault according to eyewitnesses, for not been more careful thus leading to the loss of a life.



Well Said...

However, the matter of the Driver being at fault remains a matter of Jurisprudence. Lets assume that the allowed speed limit on that road was 90Km/hr and the Bus driver hit that pothole at that exact speed;

1. Would we blame the driver for hitting a pothole that shouldnt have been there in the first place?!

2. Do we blame the driver for losing control of his vehicle as a result of an 'Anormaly' in the road?!

3. Do we blame the driver for killing a Pedestrian or Motor cyclist that shouldnt have been on that road at all as a result of point number 2 above?!?!

4. How do we say the driver was reckless?! What if he lost control as a result of a burst tyre?! Would we still balme him for killing a motorcyclist as a result of something beyond his control?! What if it was a vehicle that lost its tyre rod Like most Hondas, Do we blame the driver as well?!



Finally:: It will biol down to a matter of he said|she said.. The driver can maintain that he wasnt speeding.. And any judge will agree. Its like a case of knocking down a pesdestrian crossing the express road in Nigeria.. The matter is simply ajudged 'manslaughter' and its normally settled with the Police asking you to please assist in the burial of the deceased.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by geeez: 11:06am On Sep 24, 2013
[b]Why are Nigerian military personnel always like this? Chasing an ambulance that came to evacuate the corpse

They always go about their business like they are superior to the rest of us

You need to see the way they drive recklessly against traffic and on BRT lanes. Even the governor of Lagos State doesn't drive around in a siren but every Major in the NA wants to drive in a convoy of ten cars blaring horns and sirens at everyone else

In other climes, the military are the ones in the vanguard of development with intelligent officers that come up with engineering and scientific solutions to help better society. What stops them from executing a research in traffic management or coming up with a scientific solution for security management, or even being the ones to respond in disaster areas with their own ambulances, helicopters and fire trucks.

I'm sure if a LASTMA official had tried stopping the soldier from riding on the bridge, he would have created a scene and got his fellow men-in-green-lynching-for-no-reason-accomplices, to beat them blue[/b]

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Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by jhames010(m): 11:18am On Sep 24, 2013
ayusco85: Apportioning blame won't wake the dead. Fix the damn bridge and arrest the driver. Why did he fled the scene if he aint guilty?

Because he will be dead by now if he didn't... Even d passengers ran away, cos if the khaki boys met them there, it will be a case of "PACK THEM ALL!!!"
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Akanbiedu(m): 11:18am On Sep 24, 2013
Looks like the Mora'fcker got what he deserved. Always behaving like they are above the laws of the land.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by Rimbaldi: 11:26am On Sep 24, 2013
Mr Aboki:



Everyone in this order;


Soldier: Commited suicide by delibrately putting himself in harms way. If it wasnt a bad bridge, it might as well have been a burst tyre or failed brakes, or even braking suddenly.. THE SOLDIER SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN ON THAT BRIDGE RIDING A BIKE


DRIVER:: Has the least blame.. We dont know the speed he was doing for sure. If the road was bad, anybody could have fallen victim. He tried to control the vehicle and had the Bike not been riding on that bridge illegally, he would have brought his vehicle back under control after hitting that section on the bridge without any casualty..

GOVERNMENT:: Eko oni ba je o!! Fashola is truly working.. grin Working on killing as many Lagosians via road accidents as possible.. grin



FINALLY:: Lets not attribute this to bad driving.. The Driver was not responsible for the pothole being there. Anybody could have hit that pothole.

For a driver that plies the said route routinely day in day out not to know about the said bad spot? Are you like really serious? Have you seen these lagbus drivers in action before? I bet not!!!

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Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by vislabraye(m): 11:36am On Sep 24, 2013
pembisco: Me tink d soldier assured d bike man to trend dt road knwin fuly wel dt bikes ar banned frm using d road bt since he tinks he is a SOLdie, nobody fit stopam. *my asumptn sha*

Read the post well. The soldier didn't board an okada. He was riding it.
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by MrAboki: 11:39am On Sep 24, 2013
Rimbaldi:

For a driver that plies the said route routinely day in day out not to know about the said bad spot? Are you like really serious? Have you seen these lagbus drivers in action before? I bet not!!!


Please dont bet... You will lose your money.


Its one thing for BRT drivers to be known to drive as fucktards.. Its another thing for a Driver to lose control due to a bad patch on the road, causing him to 'ACCIDENTALLY' crush a Soldier on a bike that shouldnt have been there in the first place..


Secondly.. How did you come to the conclusion that he plies that route daily?!

Why couldnt he have just started work on that day?! Or he just got assigned a new route that day?! Or he was just negligent enough to forget about that pothole that day Cos we sometimes do?! Or in trying to dodge the Motorcycle, was forced into the pothole?!

Yes!! I AM SERIOUS!!




Abokis... Still shining shoes & grilling Suyas for over 2 Centuries..
Re: LAGBUS Crushes Soldier To Death In Lagos Yesterday by free2ryhme: 11:48am On Sep 24, 2013
I noticed the presence of MP and blood all over a certain portion of the bridge as you descend but never know it was dis bad an 0PMESA TEAM Escorting a lagbus and as drive behind their van a stern looking soldier wave me with his gun to move to the other lane. O boy sharply I comply becos dis guys no dey smile

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