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Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by IGBOSON1: 3:57pm On Oct 01, 2013
donphilopus: you made me Laugh, for your information am from SS not a Northerner like you thought.
Truth be Said, there is no reason why Igbo should form their own country. Nigeria is already One.
Next Year we'll be celebratin our 100yrs anniversary as 1 Nigeria, even with the underdevelopment.
If you don't want the celebration, go and hug a wet Transformer.
Thanks

^^^Being from the SS makes your case all the more pathetic!

Let me understand your reasoning a bit better: Ndigbo should not form their own country just b'cos Nigeria is one? I suppose Nigeria being one is an immutable law of physics that can never be undone abi?......and knowing all you know about what has happened and is happening in this country, you can still sit down wherever you are with a clear conscience and pontificate that Nigeria is one? Walahi, before we can make any headway in the south, we first need to get rid of slaves like you!

Die hard 'one naijariah' proponents like you should look on that 100 year mark with trepidation!

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Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by ShineuEye: 4:01pm On Oct 01, 2013
IGBO-SON:


^^^Being from the SS makes your case all the more pathetic!

Let me understand your reasoning a bit better: Ndigbo should not form their own country just b'cos Nigeria is one? I suppose Nigeria being one is an immutable law of physics that can never be undone abi?......and knowing all you know about what has happened and is happening in this country, you can still sit down wherever you are with a clear conscience and pontificate that Nigeria is one? Walahi, before we can make any headway in the south, we first need to get rid of slaves like you!

Die hard 'one naijariah' proponents like you should look on that 100 year mark with trepidation!


He's from the SS to make a point but he's not really from the SS. We know ourselves from our utterances.
Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by donphilopus: 4:08pm On Oct 01, 2013
Mogidi:

Sorry bro this is a dead union. The East wants out and so do we in the ND and am sure Afenifere speaks for a lot of Yorubas.


NO SURRENDER
GEJ 2015


Buhari 2015

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Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by donphilopus: 4:14pm On Oct 01, 2013
IGBO-SON:


^^^Being from the SS makes your case all the more pathetic!

Let me understand your reasoning a bit better: Ndigbo should not form their own country just b'cos Nigeria is one? I suppose Nigeria being one is an immutable law of physics that can never be undone abi?......and knowing all you know about what has happened and is happening in this country, you can still sit down wherever you are with a clear conscience and pontificate that Nigeria is one? Walahi, before we can make any headway in the south, we first need to get rid of slaves like you!

Die hard 'one naijariah' proponents like you should look on that 100 year mark with trepidation!
i'm not saying Ndigbo should stay because Nigeria is amalgamated, i'm saying Igbo should stay, simply because of their work, if we have somebody like Okorocha, an Igbo man in the whole 36 states, Nigeria would be the best country in Africa.
Life in Nigeria would be enjoyable, even the Ndigbos will not think of forming their own country.

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Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by MayorofLagos(m): 6:47pm On Oct 01, 2013
IGBO-SON:


^^^Being from the SS makes your case all the more pathetic!

Let me understand your reasoning a bit better: Ndigbo should not form their own country just b'cos Nigeria is one? I suppose Nigeria being one is an immutable law of physics that can never be undone abi?......and knowing all you know about what has happened and is happening in this country, you can still sit down wherever you are with a clear conscience and pontificate that Nigeria is one? Walahi, before we can make any headway in the south, we first need to get rid of slaves like you!

Die hard 'one naijariah' proponents like you should look on that 100 year mark with trepidation!

Igbo Son,

Back in the 60s, your attempt to separate from Nigeria was premature and miscalculated on many fronts. The North was amalgamated woth South for a reason - resource and sustenance!

As at the time you went to war that condition still existed. The North of the 60s was like a little boy you bought a mechanical toy train.
His senses are suddenly aroused to many possibilities and he will be attached posessively to the train. He is intrigued by its colors, size, form, motion, sound, and most of all he owns it snd has the prerogative to share it or not. Some years later this child would not care anything about that train. So if you were planning to disposess him of this train you are advised to wait until he has outgrown posession and need for the train.

Right now, North is wary and tired of the burdens of Nigeria. They will create a new Arewa nation if it comes to it but they are not in that state yet. What they want is to exist as a separate land of one culture, one value and one system, tethered through a regional seat of representation to Abuja. They want to remain in Nigeria but remotely and invisible...in other words, a reclusive self governing land with shared resource fed through the center. Anyone that try to take that away will be in confrontation.

To the Yorubas, the 60s was seen as a curse. Pre independence, Awolowo was the only leader who constantly harrassed he colonialists and questioned their continued presence. He battled them until they finally yielded to him in 1957 and gave him self government of the Western region. So in reality there was a Government of Western Nigeria three years before there was a government of Nigeria. Western Nigeria should have celebrated its 50th yr Independence in 2007 but it didnt. This government of self rule gave room for Awo to deploy developments through the region - free primary education, free health care, WNTV, Produce marketing boards, and so on. In other regions people paid to get their children primary education or health care for their family. Awolowo instituted socialist welfare government in contradiction of the colonialist's capitalist government. Western government thrived and proved that left alone it will do for its citizens what Colonials failed to do in 100yrs. After Zik created policies favoring nationalism and Ironsi followed up and disbanded the regional powers, The Government of Western Nigeria went into decline. We have since not recovered from it. So in the West, Yorubas know what they want - self government. They dont care if it happens within or outside the sovereingty of Nigeria, afterall the Yoruba nation is a spread across West African coasts into four other countries.
What we clamor for is self rule, we are going back to the era of Awo doctrines for the West.

Awolowo, who had founded the Action Group to promote Yoruba interests, was a vocal opponent of colonial rule, arguing that British administration had been ‘carried out by incompetent, inferior officials’, and that the British never had ‘the true interests of the country at heart’. In 1955, referring to the government of the Western region, he stated that ‘in fourteen months under the present government, we have done more for Nigeria than the British did in 120 years’ (Gunther, 1955, 775). 


To the Igbos, there was a self government in 1957 as well. There was political vacuum in Eastern region because the Igbos did not have a central political party that was Ibo made and Ibo directed. Igbo rise was championed by Zik who was permanently in West and tied to a party created by Westerners. This was the problem primarily why the Igbo self government in Enugu stagnated - its affairs was being directed from Lagos.

When Zik became President, instead of using his position to consolidate power in East, for policies and developments, he was focused plotting the disruption of Action Group and using political factions to create riots in West.
Then Ironsi got in power. Rather than to promote and uplift the self ruling government of East, he instead erased all self ruling governments and put Ibos in rulership of point positions in Federal government and empowered Federal over Regional.
Ojukwu had influence and enough support to return East to self rule but he wasn't patient and arrogance that he was Oxford educated and Gowon was not; and Gowon was junior officer to the rightful most senior officer; and his people were massacred in North...all the more important focus of returning to self rule was abandoned for emotions and pride.
Then came Ekwueme in Vice Presidency. Ibos were happy just to have their son as second in power, it didn't matter that the govt of Shagari was pro North and West. The Yoruba party stalwarts of NPN got more done for their land than the VP of the sitting government of the Nation got done for his homeland.

It should not take a space scientist to know that the coup of 1983 was a re-enactment of the one in Jan 66 with the same principal - Shagari.

Mbadiwe colluded with Ironsi to rob North the ascendancy to power.
Shagari colluded with Buhari to rob East the ascendancy to power.

Lets fast forward to NOW!

Ibo is the loudest in shouting marginalization and self rule. How will your self rule come about when the prerequisites to self rule are not even in place?

You are living the ONE NIGERIA doctrine faster and more convincing than any other ethnic group, majority or minority. Where every other group are proving by their action and steadily installing institutions of ethnic pride and pushing the mantra of self glory, Ibos are spreading away from their self glory and living the glories of other ethnicities. How do you hope to get self rule doing that? You are by your foot traffic and migratory pattern adding impetus to those who are adamantly resolved in returning to the doctrines of their political saints. Which saint exist in your political history that you would like to revive?

Your problem is not knowing if you want Nigeria or if you want self rule, stuck in between, you have failed to attain either one.

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Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by juman(m): 8:08pm On Oct 01, 2013
"In the last few days, the leader of the Boko Haram, who was said to have been dead, came out again with his message - a promise that Boko Haram would be ending democracy in Nigeria as soon as practicable.

This make me laugh a lot. The leader of Boko's turned out to be a field marshal. grin
Re: Boko Haram, 2015 Election Make SNC Imperative- Afenifere by Nobody: 8:21pm On Oct 01, 2013
Ngwakwe: Bros, no ask this question again.

This is the only gathering with a mandate to resolve every threat against Ndigbo in the North and South West One-Nigeria.

This gathering will guarantee the safety of Lives and Investments of Ndigbo in Western Nigeria and allow them to sleep with both eyes closed.


Have you not been sleeping with your two eyes closed? What is chasing you? Your shadow ?

Stop being paranoid all the times.

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