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Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by simple2004(m): 3:22pm On Oct 18, 2013
is it a sin for christian to drink wine or alcoholic drinks? matured answers with bible references from christian pls.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 3:29pm On Oct 18, 2013
No it's not a sin for christian's to consume wine or alcoholic drinks. What the bible frowns against is drunkenness thus moderation is key.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Illuminatus(m): 3:30pm On Oct 18, 2013
simple2004: is it a sin for christian to drink wine or alcoholic drinks? matured answers with bible references from christian pls.
It isn't a "sin". Christ drank wine during the Last Supper, created it in Cana and drank it at Zacheuss's house, but excessive drinking could lead you to sin.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Doughboysss: 9:24pm On Oct 18, 2013
1st Timothy 5:23 drink no longer water,but use a little wine for thy stomachs sake and thine often infirmities

How about dat
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by udopee(f): 9:39pm On Oct 18, 2013
simple2004: is it a sin for christian to drink wine or alcoholic drinks? matured answers with bible references from christian pls.

IT IS A TERRIBLE SIN IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. BE WARNED cool cool cool

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by simple2004(m): 11:05pm On Oct 18, 2013
[quote author=udopee]

IT IS A TERRIBLE SIN IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. BE WARNED
can you pls explain more. is it realy true that christ drank wine while on earth?
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by udopee(f): 3:51am On Oct 19, 2013
John2:1-10. When the governor tasted Jesus wine, he confessed that it is a good wine(non alcohol). By then most people have been drunk with the bad wine(alcohol bcus the people were intoxicated from it).
Woe(curse) unto him that giveth his neighborh wine to drink. Wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging. Proverb20:1.
Escape for ur life and repent before it will be late...
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by lanrexlan(m): 9:27am On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun: No it's not a sin for christian's to consume wine or alcoholic drinks.What the bible frowns against is drunkenness thus moderation is key.
Nah,maybe you forget to read this.
Jeremiah 25:27-28 (NIV) -Then tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty,the God of Israel, says:Drink,get drunk and vomit,and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.
But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink,tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty says:You must drink it!
.This is called forced drinking,drink and get drunk.Amazing abi?
Then,the bible says wine makes life,men and god rejoice.
Ecclesiastes 10:19 (NIV) -A feast is made for laughter,and wine makes life merry,but money is the answer for everything
Judges 9:13 (NIV) -But the vine answered, Should I give up my wine,which cheers both gods and men,to hold sway over the trees?.
.Then what's the outcome of drunkenness?
Proverbs 23:31-34 (NIV) -Do not gaze at wine when it is red,when it sparkles in the cup,when it goes down smoothly!
In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.You will be like one sleeping on the high seas,lying on top of the rigging
.Marvellous indeed.

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 12:13pm On Oct 19, 2013
Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

:However, the earth is God's, and context is profitable to direct.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Nobody: 12:28pm On Oct 19, 2013
^^^
Lol. No answer given. I like this. cheesy
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 12:53pm On Oct 19, 2013
aManFromMars: ^^^
Lol. No answer given. I like this. cheesy

The lol thing is that you will run away or report me if i start with you.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Nobody: 1:03pm On Oct 19, 2013
Image123:

The lol thing is that you will run away or report me if i start with you.

Na. I never report mad people. They always entertain me.

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 1:28pm On Oct 19, 2013
aManFromMars:

Na. I never report mad people. They always entertain me.

Good to hear that you do not report mad people. Bad to hear that they always entertain you.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Mintayo(m): 1:40pm On Oct 19, 2013
lanrexlan: Nah,maybe you forget to read this.
Jeremiah 25:27-28 (NIV) -Then tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty,the God of Israel, says:Drink,get drunk and vomit,and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.
But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink,tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty says:You must drink it!
.This is called forced drinking,drink and get drunk.Amazing abi?
Then,the bible says wine makes life,men and god rejoice.
Ecclesiastes 10:19 (NIV) -A feast is made for laughter,and wine makes life merry,but money is the answer for everything
Judges 9:13 (NIV) -But the vine answered, Should I give up my wine,which cheers both gods and men,to hold sway over the trees?.
.Then what's the outcome of drunkenness?
Proverbs 23:31-34 (NIV) -Do not gaze at wine when it is red,when it sparkles in the cup,when it goes down smoothly!
In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.You will be like one sleeping on the high seas,lying on top of the rigging
.Marvellous indeed.

Very typical of Lanre,quoting the Bible out of context without taking time to read the whole chapter...smh
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by lanrexlan(m): 1:44pm On Oct 19, 2013
Mintayo:

Very typical of Lanre,quoting the Bible out of context without taking time to read the whole chapter...smh
*Yawns* Smh

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by vickyO(f): 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2013
Too much consumption of food is sin, overindulgence in alcohol is bad... drunkards shall go to hell..... so it ain't a sin when consumed moderately. Redwine's got some health benefits.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by raptureready: 2:21pm On Oct 19, 2013
simple2004: is it a sin for christian to drink wine or alcoholic drinks? matured answers with bible references from christian pls.

4get what people say and look at what the bible says;
Proverbs 20:1 "Wine is a mocker,
strong drink is raging: and whosoever
is deceived thereby is not wise."
Isaiah 5:11 -- "Woe unto
them that rise up early in the morning,
that they may follow strong drink;
that continue until night, till wine
inflame them!"
Proverbs 23:29-31 -- "Who hath woe?
who hath sorrow? who hath
contentions? who hath babbling? who
hath wounds without cause? who hath
redness of eyes? (30) They that tarry
long at the wine; they that go to seek
mixed wine.(a mixture of wine and
spices) (31) Look not thou upon the
wine when it is red, when it giveth his
colour in the cup, when it moveth itself
aright."

Your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, and he dwells in you. Are you trying to make him share that bottle of small stout?

Dough_boy$$$:
1st Timothy 5:23 drink no longer water,but use a little wine for thy stomachs sake and thine often infirmities

How about dat

What paul was referring to are the conditions in which alchohol is used for medication. For example people with stomach acidity issues who need to balance out the acidity with alchohol's alkaline. In such cases it is taken AS MEDICINE in VERY little quantity.

Hard drugs like cocaine and the rest are sometimes used for medication under prescription. That don't justify you using them for high trips.

Illuminatus:
It isn't a "sin". Christ drank wine during the Last Supper, created it in Cana and drank it at Zacheuss's house, but excessive drinking could lead you to sin.

You need to differenciate when the bible uses wine to mean alchohol and to mean ordinary fruit wine.
Unfortunately, because of cross-language interpretation issues and the ambiguity of hebrew words like "yayin, shekar" and greek words like "oinos"
early interpreters probably just lumped them all as "wine".
During the last supper, at cana, and in zacheus house, did anybody (Jesus included) sound drunk to you?

Pastor Kun: No it's not a sin for christian's to consume wine or alcoholic drinks. What the bible frowns against is drunkenness thus moderation is key.

Unfortunately, ALCOHOL IS ADDICTIVE! There is no real line defining moderation with it. You start small today, tomorrow you bcom addicted and the addiction grows! Same as you cannot use hard drugs in moderation.

In conclusion, when faced with gray areas of the bible, it is best to listen to the advice in 1 thess 5:22;

Abstain from all APEARANCE of evil

Don't wait until you are sure. If it even LOOKS like sin, my dear flee. Heaven is worth it!

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 2:53pm On Oct 19, 2013
@rapture_ready
Stop forcing your opinion into scripture as none of the verses you quoted forbids a christian from taking wine. Even our lord Jesus Christ took alcoholic wine contrary to the impression you are trying to create. Luke 7:33-34 makes it clear the wine in question is alcoholic otherwise the issue of being drunk would not even arise.

Luke 7:33
33 For John the Baptist is come eating no bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a demon. 34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold, a gluttonous man, and a drunkard, a friend of publicans and sinners!

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 3:05pm On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun: @rapture_ready
Stop forcing your opinion into scripture as none of the verses you quoted forbids a christian from taking wine. Even our lord Jesus Christ took alcoholic wine contrary to the impression you are trying to create. Luke 7:33-34 makes it clear the wine in question is alcoholic otherwise the issue of being drunk would not even arise.

Luke 7:33
33 For John the Baptist is come eating no bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a demon. 34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold, a gluttonous man, and a drunkard, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Jesus was accused of being a drunkard and possessed by demons. He didn't have demons but the issue arose. It's called false accusation.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 3:17pm On Oct 19, 2013
Image123:

Jesus was accused of being a drunkard and possessed by demons. He didn't have demons but the issue arose. It's called false accusation.

Yes he was falsely accused of being a drunkard but Jesus himself stated clearly he drank wine. Common sense dictates that he was drinking alcoholic wine and not some fruit wine for hypocrites like you to have labelled him a drunkard.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 3:40pm On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun:

Yes he was falsely accused of being a drunkard but Jesus himself stated clearly he drank wine. Common sense dictates that he was drinking alcoholic wine and not some fruit wine for hypocrites like you to have labelled him a drunkard.

Try to speak like a christian even though you are not one or at least act civilized, not like a thug. Assumption and presumption is not equal to common sense. State cogent reasons for the so called common sense instead of shoving presumptions down our throats.

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Mintayo(m): 4:23pm On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun:

Yes he was falsely accused of being a drunkard but Jesus himself stated clearly he drank wine. Common sense dictates that he was drinking alcoholic wine and not some fruit wine for hypocrites like you to have labelled him a drunkard.
Can you prove it that Jesus drank an alcoholic wine? Or Jesus was drunk?
#no insult pls.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 6:40pm On Oct 19, 2013
Mintayo:
Can you prove it that Jesus drank an alcoholic wine? Or Jesus was drunk?
#no insult pls.

The onus is on you to prove that the wine did not contain alcohol as wine by definition is an alcoholic beverage. Infact there is no such thing as non alcoholic wine, that terminology is an oxymoron.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Mintayo(m): 6:50pm On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun:

The onus is on you to prove that the wine did not contain alcohol as wine by definition is an alcoholic beverage. Infact there is no such thing as non alcoholic wine, that terminology is an oxymoron.
are you saying that there is no non-alcoholic wine? That allwine are alcoholic?
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 6:55pm On Oct 19, 2013
Mintayo:
are you saying that there is no non-alcoholic wine? That allwine are alcoholic?

Absolutely, there is no such thing as non alcoholic wine. It's just a terminology created by Nigerians.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Mintayo(m): 7:17pm On Oct 19, 2013
Pastor Kun:

Absolutely, there is no such thing as non alcoholic wine. It's just a terminology created by Nigerians.
the statement you made above is not true!
so all those wine we buy with the inscription 'non-alcoholic' are alcoholic? I think you need to research well.
what diffferentiaite an alcoholic wine from a non-alcoholic wine?
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 6:38am On Oct 20, 2013
Mintayo:
the statement you made above is not true!
so all those wine we buy with the inscription 'non-alcoholic' are alcoholic? I think you need to research well.
what diffferentiaite an alcoholic wine from a non-alcoholic wine?

You are the one that needs to research well. You would not find that term[wine] on most of those non alcoholic drinks you buy. They are always labelled as 'sparkling fruit juice' and not wine. I repeat the term non alcoholic wine is a Nigerian terminology.

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Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 12:16pm On Oct 20, 2013
Pastor Kun:

The onus is on you to prove that the wine did not contain alcohol as wine by definition is an alcoholic beverage. Infact there is no such thing as non alcoholic wine, that terminology is an oxymoron.

Learned people know that the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, and that there is nothing unclean of itself. Learned people also know that every fruit contains sugar and ethanol. The content/percentage increases with fermentation. This is basic science and rural palm wine knowledge. Your sugar, your coca-cola, your medicine, lt all contains the likes of alcohol, cocaine, hemp and such banned substances.
Google is still free for your learning. You can't compare the fruit of the vine and whatever other fruit juice with alcohol content of about 0.1% or less to the likes of gin and whisky(above 40% alcohol), spirit(above 80%), brandy(35%) or beer(above 2% depending on which and not to mention the fishes and carton devourers that help multiply the percentage).
The bible solemnly discourages intake of alcoholic wine.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Image123(m): 12:48pm On Oct 20, 2013
Just did a quick search to help some to a link that says something similar. Note the following quote from the link.
"In many countries any drink with less than 0.5% ABV can legally be
described as non-alcoholic , because your body can metabolise the
alcohol as fast as you consume the drink. Although all orange juice
contains alcohol, the quantity is low enough that you won’t get
intoxicated from it, even if you drink many glasses of it. However in
places with zero-tolerance rules against driving with any measurable
alcohol in your blood, you might need to be careful if you are a very
heavy orange juice drinker."

http://quezi.com/14067
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by Mintayo(m): 2:00pm On Oct 20, 2013
Saw this somewhere,can't remember now! Will try and look for the sourse later!
The wine of the old and New testament was simple grape juice. Good hebrew wine(strong drink) was made from dates/vinegar,hence the Bible scripture about wine or vinegar.
In those days,there are two kind of wines, one that was made out of pure 'grape juice'(the one that Jesus drank) and the Hebrew wine that was made from dates/vinegar(the one that Jesus refused to drink)
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by PastorKun(m): 2:52pm On Oct 20, 2013
^^^
Very poor analysis and eisigesis. Hebrew wine that Jesus drank was made from grape juice and it was alcoholic so deal with it and stop trying force your opinion into scripture.
Re: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by nora544: 3:05pm On Oct 20, 2013
Wine is always from grapes.

The fresh juce you get from the grapes is always called grapejuice not wine. Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grapes .

You will find no word in the bible that you should not drink wine.

That is what you found on Wiki about wine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine

We christian can drink wine and it is not a sin to drink wine.

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