Onlytruth:

I knew that there is no way she is Yoruba.
Ileke-idi is classier and more real. Believe me I dated Yoruba girls a lot. "She" may even be Hausa! lol

i have a general idea of her tribe, but she should continue roping herself in the meantime.

btw can you help her with this konji thing, the dame has been shouting d.ick, c,,ock, prick, abunna, etc all day.

i just feel for her.

if you're not available, maybe you can ask someone to check that place?

e be like say no be mouth she dey take talk again, na her thingy dey do the talking, shown by the high level of frustration on display.

tpia@:
the beast is still ranting?

o ga o.

konji or lack of it, na wa.

abi the thing feels i can satisfy her someway ni? I'm not lesbian o, sorry.

stick to offering the guys your cobweb or look for the lesbos here.

You see why I call you eran iya? You should be whipped like aso ofi. No amount of black eye would do you until you are sent to the emergency room but been then you'll be bleating like the pig you are.

Why do you run with your tails between your legs only to resurface when you think I'm gone. Mo ti so fun e wipe egbe isu ko ni yan.

You will cry today and not even only lies c0ck would pacify you. I can see he is already here lobbying for some hold hag kitten. I like the fact that your customers never let you down. A vulture(only lie) is circling round your carcass the left over from his dirty kinsmen. You don hammer tonight. By the time he is done with you, your mama go cry!

Bloody coward!

Biancar's apprentice. Aviation minister of ashewo land of Biafra.

tpia@:




i have a general idea of her tribe, but she should continue roping herself in the meantime.

btw can you help her with this konji thing, the dame has been shouting d.ick, prick, abunna, etc all day.

i just feel for her.

While you have a general idea of my "tribe". I have a confirmed status of your origin!

Latrine!

The land of sh1t!

tpia@:




i have a general idea of her tribe, but she should continue roping herself in the meantime.

btw can you help her with this konji thing, the dame has been shouting d.ick, prick, abunna, etc all day.

i just feel for her.

Nope! She has to pass through my wife first!

^i already modified the post, it occurred to me you might not be single.

if you can find someone to help her sha.

Onlytruth:

I knew that there is no way she is Yoruba.
Ileke-idi is classier and more real. Believe me I dated Yoruba girls a lot. "She" may even be Hausa! lol

Olosi omo ibo akuri.

Of course Ileke is classy and indeed so! You could easily recognise that in her because class among your ladies is a rare trait! It is non existent.

Feat nor though, we have tilapia for you since Ileke is way beyond your reach.

If you like call me tapa, Hausa so long as you don't classify me among the dregs of society - ibo. I'll roll with it.

Abeg carry your meat comot for hia and get her laid in your shop ojare. Her abuna is starting to stink up the joint.

Aww what a beautiful sight see them making out already!

Who would have thought it!

Crazy people need love too. It is always beautiful to see them find one another.

Onlytruth:



Nope! She has to pass through my wife first!

Asiere? love-vendor dey get wife? Tpia is the closest thing to a wife that you'll ever get. That is what you deserve. Animals marry animals,

una no go come carry this woman?

na fair weather friends una be o.

how can you see your friend disgracing herself like this (o ti ja si gbangba) and una just come hide face.

na wa o.

Desola:

Asiere? love-vendor dey get wife? Tpia is the closest thing to a wife that you'll ever get. That is what you deserve. Animals marry animals,

Coming from a rabid beetche herself!
You would know these types of things because they rule your world.

tpia@:
una no go come carry this woman?

na fair weather friends una be o.

how can you see your friend disgracing herself like this (o ti ja si gbangba) and una just come hide face.

na wa o.

They know she is NOT Yoruba. She is on her own. Who wants to identify with a rabid dog.
All the omoluabis don comot for am since.

tpia@:
the beast is still ranting?

o ga o.

konji or lack of it, na wa.

abi the thing feels i can satisfy her someway ni? I'm not lesbian o, sorry.

stick to offering the guys your cobweb or look for the lesbos here.

Yet this animal can't come up with her own words - always regurgitating and recycling the adjectives I use aptly in qualifying it. Is that how limited your vocabulary is or must you look in your abuna to get your brain before you can string together two simple words? Surprised I'm not! You are after all an animal that can never evolve into a primate hence the ease at which ibo boys get you on your back.

Wo wa sukun lale yi! Emi e o gbe!

Alaskari, so I'm no longer on heat for a juicy black Yoruba tingamabom but now a lesbian? Hahaha... Tpia, you are not bright! An incoherent buffoon is what you have always been known as never really in touch with reality. Always going off tangent as usual.

You are lame at this game. You got to be wittier and more challenging. Even animals have something between their ears. Use yours!

Onlytruth:

They know she is NOT Yoruba. She is on her own. Who wants to identify with a rabid dog.
All the omoluabis don comot for am since.

True, all the omoluabis have hone leaving the vulture, the carcass and the hunter!

I am contemplating which style I should employ in slaying the vulture.

What so you reckon?

You ni even dey shame see as you tie wrapper for waist dey join women fight (at least one woman and one animal).

Ibo men, una see una life? A whole ibo eze wuruwuru joining issues with females in the square. Shameless fuqs you all are. Dem born you well to open mouth when our men dey hia?

Kai! Your own don quench patapata. See wetin Tpia haggard toto don turn you into!

E no go beta for Tpia t0to!

madam, why do you keep hyperventilating over igbo boys nah?


i said beg them and offer some goodies, maybe you'll get an offer.


as the yoruba boys don run comot, face elsewhere abi you dont need that your thing o.rgasmed ni?

Desola:

Dem born you well to open mouth when our men dey hia?

where are the men you're referring to?

the ones who ran as soon as you offered them your thingy?

abeg, make i leave your matter because obviously this lack of a good wetincall has affected you badly.

sorry o.

Katsumoto, ilugun e da si kini yi.

tpia@:
madam, why do you keep hyperventilating over igbo boys nah?


i said beg them and offer some goodies, maybe you'll get an offer.


as the yoruba boys don run comot, face elsewhere abi you dont need that your thing o.rgasmed ni?

Don't worry about how or when I get oiled but worry about your non appealing state to even your kinsmen. Ibos are queuing up to have a Yoruba abuna? So hey yourself together and give onlytrith your best outing yet,

It's not everyday you get to sh4g an eze of Nairaland you know. If you are lucky? He might throw in tomakint to give some cunnil1ngus

It's your lucky night.

tpia@:


where are the men you're referring to?

the ones who ran as soon as you offered them your thingy?

abeg, make i leave your matter because obviously this lack of a good wetincall has affected you badly.

sorry o.

Confused biatch! One minute I'm a lesbo, the next I'm on heat for a c0ck. I think only lie has fuqed Yoir brain inside our, you're now delirious.

Keep repeating the same thing like a parrot hoping that would draw the Yoruba cox her way. Sorry forker! I thought someone offered you some action earlier! Did the smell emanating from down under sent him scampering?

Muhehehe,,,

Dudu_Negro:

Your original post should have opened on this quest. This response is welconing.

No Yoruba state was immuned from the wastefullness and largesse of corruption instituted at the center.

There are certain critical timelines in the evolution of modern democracy in Yorubaland. Your issue is addressed in all of them.

1. 1957
Western Nigeria gained independence from colonial rule and went into self-governance.

Awolowo installed his socialist reform policies for free education, free healthcare and launched public awareness programs through print media, radio broadcast and tv programming.
His field agents, in conjunction with public information broadcasters, took the message of "education" into rural Yorubaland and campaigned vigorously to farmers and artisans on the value of education and its relational benefit to the land, the farm, the peoole and their community.


2. 1960
Nigeria is Independent and self-governance is returned to the people.

Awolowo retained the sovereingty of Western Nigeria as a concrete power and viewed Nigerian sovereingty as a pseudo-power to exist simply as an experiment. His progressive policies covered all the way up to what is today Ijaw territories and Anioma. No land under the umbrella of Western coverage was left untouched. This ran counter to the ambition in the center. Awolowo and the West must be slowed down. Part of the scheme to effect the slow down was strenghtening the center as a Republic and thereby effecting a new citizenship status - the political impact is that Yorubas thus lost their citizenship as Westerners and became citizens under a Federal Republic of Nigeria in 63.

Also, the Federal Republic with its new power sabotaged the Western interest and aroused division by campaigning a propaganda of deceipt that Yorubas want to use the resources of non-Yorubas in the Western Region to develop Yorubaland and subdue them as second class citizens in the region. That propaganda succeeded in collecting signatories for a break-away from West and the creation of MidWestern State.

Following that, Awolowo, unperturbed, continued to score many developments on the ground. He introduced produce board, farmers cooperative councils, savings and investment banks, Oodua development board, Cocoa House, incentive laced industrial complexes and a robust taxation system to fund the socialist programs of education, healthcare, retirement and pension, trade and skills learning centers as well as expansion of public awareness programs and the establishment of a political think tank group.

Cracks in the internal disagreements within the party was exploited to launch chaos and disorder. Awolowo was falsely charged of treason. Akintola was installed, mayhem broke and the independence status of Western Nigeria was substantially erased when Federal troops were deployed to maintain law and order. Politically that was a territorial invasion into a sovereign soil. That event brought Yorubaland firmly into the grip of Federal authorities and Yoruba lost its 1957 sovereingty privilege.


3. 1966.
Double Coups and military power
In quick successions and back to back all the ideals of a great Yoruba societyand the 9yrs progress from 57 to 66 were thrown out. There was no way we could ever reverse and gain those exclusive trajectory of developments back.

However, with the widespread frustration of failure with the experiments of nationhood, it appeared that egos were deflated and defeated in the two regions North and East who in their political coalition had ganged up to retard the sovereign progress in the West, and finally each region might take its loss and start back up where it missed the road in 63. If that had happened West could perharps have had a second shot at it....after all, beside the ones killed in the coups, most of the principal ideologues were still alive and the blueprint is there, the infrastructures were there.

Yoruba was ready for another shot at sovereingty, North was ready and it appeared MidWest and East were ready. This was the first SNC, popularly called Aburi Accord.

In its implementation, East raised accusations that the central military power was biased and lacked credibility. East approached the Accord as a matter of principles and failed to see the political benefit. Even when the political rewards were pointed out and they were persuaded to accept that and use it pivotally to later negotiate and firm up on the principles, it was rejected as all or nothing. In the struggle to gain much East ended up loosing all. The hope therefore that Nigeria will be dissolved was lost and a new eliteclass of rulers mounted the center.


4. 1967
War
A negotiated agreement to move all non-Yoruba military personnell out of Yorubaland had been won and was awaiting execution when East suddenly marched into MidWest and changed the course of events.

Yorubaland was occupied by a horde of non-Yoruba foreigners conscripted in the North by Federal power and then Biafra had advanced into Ore and aiming for Lagos and Ibadan.

If Federal troops had deployed out before Biafra had launch, there might not be a Nigeria today and West would have secured its borders militarily against incursion in East or North. This would definitely have prompted Ojukwu to view his opportunities from a different angle....but his rebellion resulted in another missed opportunity for sovereingty.

5. 1970 to 79
Military Leadership
For the first time in the history of Yorubaland a non-Yoruba sits as a ruler over the land and directs the affairs in our Oba's palace.

We ended up with foreigners as governors over us. Not only did we loose a sovereingty, we also lost right of political supremacy that dated back into ancient history. Never before has any foreign power dictated decision making to an Ooni or an Alaafin. Even the Colonialists did not do that. Now we have an Ezechukwu and a Yakassai, a Donald and a Luther, a Babagana and a Okon serving as Lords over us.

These are some of the pains of what the loss of sovereingty cost us.

6. 1979
Return to Democracy
The period of 70 to 79 has brought in the new age of national project. Government contractors were swimming in wealth. A new movement came alive.....the movement of money is power! It used to be Independence is power in the 60s. MKO, Akinjide, Omoboriowo, Ogunlana.....these people departed from the Yoruba struggle and consciousness for exclusivity and sovereingty and camped with the power in the center for personal gains.

Yorubaland lost its grip on self-sufficiency from 79 through 99.....a period of twenty years!

In that period, we suffered on our land a repeat of what we went through between 63 and 70, except that this time it happened on a different scale.


6. 2000 to 2015
Our experience has taught lessons. We have seen wisdom in the knowledge that we are at our best when we focus in on our commonwealth and regard Nigera as a toxic and unfriendly landscape and our land and people must be secured and shielded from its vagaries.

We are confronted by another opportunity to give Western Sovereingty a shot. Elements of individualism must be subdued for the purpose of collective gains.

If everybody agitate for their land or state to be capital.....then where do we get food, educators, military, artisans, and so on?

Each land must put forward its best footing and be our capital for that value-add to the society.

Oga Dudu, this timelines are very important. I suggest you open it as a thread.

OP, Ara awe o

I dont know what your intentions are but this is my own piece

First we are all Yoruba and share a common heritage. We wont throw away our heritage because of a few pieces of silver

before the coming of the White men Oyo was the capital of Yoruba and was the home of the Oyo Kingdom with Alaafin being the ruler

When the first republic came How come Oyo people were not screaming to be made the capital in accordance with our ancient tradition? Because we all share the same commonwealth.

Ife is the Spiritual home of Yorubas The ooni is the custodian of Yoruba spirituality, Why didnt the Ife people scream for the capital instead of Ibadan? because we are all yorubas and share the same commonwealth

[size=13pt]In the First republic when a University was to be created by the Action group it was situated in Ile-Ife the cradle of yorubaland, Why not Ikenne the home of Awolowo or Ogbomosho the home of Akintola?[/size]

If those leaders wanted to think like you Awolowo would have situated the WNBC in Ikenne, Akintola would have situated University of Ife in Ogbomosho and Ajasin would have situated the Liberty stadium in owo

When the Biafra forces attacked Ore, Why didnt other Yorubas wait for Ore people to defend themselves? Because We are all yorubas and share the same commonwealth

Why was it that Benjamin Adekunle who took the war on his head wasnt even from ore or Alani Akinrinade, Or Alabi Isama because we are all Yorubas and share the same commonwealth

Not to bore you lets fast forward to 1999, [size=14pt]The Yorubas were given a free pass to produce the President, Guess who Afenifere endorsed? You got it right Chief Olu Falae an Akure man even at the expense of a core NADECO man like Bola Ige and all Yorubas even Ogun people ditched Obasanjo and voted Falae en masse

Do you think ogun ppl who embraced Falae and ditched OBJ were foolish? If they had followed your own line of reasoning, They would have voted for their son too. But guess what? Yoruba cultural heritage supersedes all banal sentiments
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Fashola thats governor in Lagos is reported to be from EKiti and Tinubu from Osun why no issues

Now back to your position when Awolowo , Akintola and the AG were ruling there was nothing like Oyo state, Ekiti state and Osun state we were all Western region

Now tell me what special status Ogbomoso, Osogbo, Ikirun, Igbeti, Saki, Sagamu, Ijebu Igbo Ado Ekiti now benefited and why haven't the people from these places come out to protest like you?

I know a lot of Ondo people, My wife is from Ondo state and no one I repeat no one shares this sentiments with you

[size=13pt]BTW have you asked WAEC why they use Oyo Yoruba for the exams and not Ekiti Ijebu or Akure dialect?[/size]

Tony Spike:

Oga Dudu, this timelines are very important. I suggest you open it as a thread.

I was about to say the same thing...and I might do it. Hopefully, more Yoruba's can add their own contributions.

Omi okun ati ti osa ti pade lori thread yi.

Why these two women are fighting isn't clear to me.

Dudu_Negro:
Your original post should have opened on this quest. This response is welconing.

No Yoruba state was immuned from the wastefullness and largesse of corruption instituted at the center.

There are certain critical timelines in the evolution of modern democracy in Yorubaland. Your issue is addressed in all of them.

Sir, I didn't quote everything in that wonderful post so as to make it easier on the eyes on those reading the comments on the thread. It's refreshing to see what the Western region was able to achieve within a short period of time - with absolutely nothing. And it's also clear that Nigeria stunted the growth and progress of the Yoruba's. After reading this; I honestly don't think regional government is what the Yoruba's need. A total break-away from the shackles of Nigeria is the only solution. My reason is that: just as envy and bitterness made the center sabotage the progress of the western region, they can still do the same to any regional government that might suffice.

Also, to those shouting the need for a big, strong and powerful black country. Nigeria is definitely not the answer because the people are different - and the hatred and animosity among the ethnic group will never go away. One or more groups, will always sabotage the progress of the rest. That said, no black country would be able to either compete or dominate the Europeans, in the next 200 years. That's how far ahead they're. So what's the point of having a big for nothing black country? Nigeria as it's doesn't even have any strong institution and I doubt it's ever going to change. Judging from the way corruption, nepotism, bigotry and other vices have eaten so deep into the Nigeria fabric. So it's better for everyone to start afresh - and separately this time around - than trying to patch what's already a failure and destiny for the bottomless pit.

And to the pan-Africanists. We should all know by now that dream of one Africa is a pipe dream. Hence, why die-hard Pan-Africanists like: Prof. Ashante Molefi, Dr Leonard Jeffries et al have shifted the frontier, to re-drawing the maps - and allowing African folks to grow from within, via their own consciousness - like it happened in the past. Dr. John Henrik Clarke shared the same sentiment before he passed away about the need for black folks to go back to nation building, by using what worked for them in the past. And the past signifies the lack of artificial borders - and nation building by similar groups who have the same consciousness. If that can happen and just one African country can get it right - that would re-energise the black renaissance everyone has been waiting for. Because others would use this blueprint, to develop their countries as well.

Goodnews the evil cult holding yorrobbers are falling unto themselves..

lertee:
Hmm,brilliant.
A particular thing will be designated to kwara as well.
I do feel there will be battle for supremacy though and disagreement on choosing leaders

I directed this question to katsumoto after he gave a response to the different ways duty can be designated to everytown should there be oodua republic.

OAM4J:
lol...that will be the least of all problems of Odua nation. We can easily agree on that on a round table. Besides there was a Western region before now with Ibadan as the capital, that didn't make Ibadan people more superior than others and Lagos as Nigerian capital didn't make Lagosians more superior than the rest of Yoruba people.

Katsumoto: 12:35am On Oct 21
A group of people who cant be fooled by leaders are the Yoruba. Why or how do you think the Yoruba kicked out PDP?

The Yoruba have been sacking leaders for 500 years. They will go the way of others before them if they misbehave.

Desola(f): 12:17am On Oct 21
lertee:
I see,let's assume there is yoruba or oodua republic,who then rules or which state becomes the headquater?

Tell me, was Lagos made capital of Nigeria because it had the largest population of Nigerians at the time?

YOur arguments are stale.

After asking the question on supremacy and choice of leader,the above quoted were the few response I got,which means that should there be an oodua republic, there won't be a problem or disagreement between the states.
I was a bit surprised seeing this ondo post yesterday and read through to find out that the OP clamours and gives reason why Ondo state would be the headquater of oodua republic. If we find other writers from other SW states,they will also bring out reasons why their state should be made this or that.
What I am saying in essence is that,should there be disintegration and regional republic is formed,the battle for supremacy and choice of leadership will bring disunity.

shymexx:

I was about to say the same thing...and I might do it. Hopefully, more Yoruba's can add their own contributions.

Shymexx, please put it up there. We will contribute to it. Its important for us to look back and see where we could have been and compare with where we are and where we should be going.

America is still struggling and tettering on its feet over 50 years after we launched free health care for all. No othe region, not even the Colonial government or Nigerian government gave people free health. Western Nigeria built the first stadium in Sub sahara, first tv in Africa as a whole. Awo stood on the legislative floor in Lagos and told the white Governor General that he had no use for them because he has accomplished successfully in 14yrs for Western Nigeria what they failed in 100yrs from 1860 to 1960 to achieve for Nigeria.

This statement by Awo need to be on a plaque and on display in the museum in Cocoa House. It should be taught and phrased the way JFK's inauguration theme was phrased....or MLK's March on Washington speech was phrased.

Awo must be immortalized. If this was 1700s Yorubaland the man will be deified!

Dudu_Negro:

Shymexx, please put it up there. We will contribute to it. Its important for us to look back and see where we could have been and compare with where we are and where we should be going.

America is still struggling and tettering on its feet over 50 years after we launched free health care for all. No othe region, not even the Colonial government or Nigerian government gave people free health. Western Nigeria built the first stadium in Sub sahara, first tv in Africa as a whole. Awo stood on the legislative floor in Lagos and told the white Governor General that he had no use for them because he has accomplished successfully in 14yrs for Western Nigeria what they failed in 100yrs from 1860 to 1960 to achieve for Nigeria.

This statement by Awo need to be on a plaque and on display in the museum in Cocoa House. It should be taught and phrased the way JFK's inauguration theme was phrased....or MLK's March on Washington speech was phrased.

Awo must be immortalized. If this was 1700s Yorubaland the man will be deified!

I agree with this 100%.

django1: Lol! Op, please tell us where in akure is the oil? Tell us where in akure is the cocoa?

Akure has been feeding on other cities and villages as well, everything you just highlighted against lagos and ibadan also affects akure too.

Well said. Moreover, the guy na fool.

shymexx:

Sir, I didn't quote everything in that wonderful post so as to make it easier on the eyes on those reading the comments on the thread. It's refreshing to see what the Western region was able to achieve within a short period of time - with absolutely nothing. And it's also clear that Nigeria stunted the growth and progress of the Yoruba's. After reading this; I honestly don't think regional government is what the Yoruba's need. A total break-away from the shackles of Nigeria is the only solution. My reason is that: just as envy and bitterness made the center sabotage the progress of the western region, they can still do the same to any regional government that might suffice.

Also, to those shouting the need for a big, strong and powerful black country. Nigeria is definitely not the answer because the people are different - and the hatred and animosity among the ethnic group will never go away. One or more groups, will always sabotage the progress of the rest. That said, no black country would be able to either compete or dominate the Europeans, in the next 200 years. That's how far ahead they're. So what's the point of having a big for nothing black country? Nigeria as it's doesn't even have any strong institution and I doubt it's ever going to change. Judging from the way corruption, nepotism, bigotry and other vices have eaten so deep into the Nigeria fabric. So it's better for everyone to start afresh - and separately this time around - than trying to patch what's already a failure and destiny for the bottomless pit.

And to the pan-Africanists. We should all know by now that dream of one Africa is a pipe dream. Hence, why die-hard Pan-Africanists like: Prof. Ashante Molefi, Dr Leonard Jeffries et al have shifted the frontier, to re-drawing the maps - and allowing African folks to grow from within, via their own consciousness - like it happened in the past. Dr. John Henrik Clarke shared the same sentiment before he passed away about the need for black folks to go back to nation building, by using what worked for them in the past. And the past signifies the lack of artificial borders - and nation building by similar groups who have the same consciousness. If that can happen and just one African country can get it right - that would re-energise the black renaissance everyone has been waiting for. Because others would use this blueprint, to develop their countries as well.

good morning sir

Dudu_Negro:

Shymexx, please put it up there. We will contribute to it. Its important for us to look back and see where we could have been and compare with where we are and where we should be going.

America is still struggling and tettering on its feet over 50 years after we launched free health care for all. No othe region, not even the Colonial government or Nigerian government gave people free health. Western Nigeria built the first stadium in Sub sahara, first tv in Africa as a whole. Awo stood on the legislative floor in Lagos and told the white Governor General that he had no use for them because he has accomplished successfully in 14yrs for Western Nigeria what they failed in 100yrs from 1860 to 1960 to achieve for Nigeria.

This statement by Awo need to be on a plaque and on display in the museum in Cocoa House. It should be taught and phrased the way JFK's inauguration theme was phrased....or MLK's March on Washington speech was phrased.

Awo must be immortalized. If this was 1700s Yorubaland the man will be deified!

Done, sir.

https://www.nairaland.com/1489398/critical-timelines-evolution-modern-democracy#19025258

I have amended the headline in recognition of the great upset caused to people by the original version. The intention of the original was to draw immediate attention to the thread, and attract serious debaters to the need to spread development elsewhere in the region. It is for other to decide whether that was the best approach.

And while the initial contributions were directionless, partly I guess as a result of people reacting out of anger, in the end, we got one or two meaningful contributions, particularly from Mr Dudu.

I see some of the points from the other side of the argument, but I remain persuaded by the force of my arguments that for us to rebuild our society, we need to retrace those treasured Awo principles of social and economic justice, equal access to opportunity for every child of Odua irrespective of their place of residence in the SW, we must focus renewed attention on ways to elevate the most deprived parts of our society from economic deprivation. If the opportunity for the region to have a new capital arises, we should consider other towns where the citing of a capital will be a major game-changer.

Putting the capital in Ibadan will not change Ibadan. Ibadan is already on the road to greatness.