Jesus kept the ten commandments through out his life time on earth, but hardly a day pass without mine breaking the ten commandments and in most cases adding an eleventh one.

but why? why can't l be like jesus? why?

abeg your mama na virgin wen she born you?
abi dove descend from heaven con kajad for your head wen dem baptise you
abi u don ever transfigurate ontop rock once since dem born u?
or abi u teach elders for 12years old?

wen u ansa finish.. ill tell u why we can't....next

joeace2020: na only the first one u talk happened b4 jesus begin live.

for the other ones he don dey jam temptation left, right and centre b4 them happened

tpia@: l don't think is a matter of discipline, because so many disciplined men are still less perfect.

Firstly, you are not meant to be like Jesus.

Jesus was able to keep the laws perfectly because he was the physical incarnation of the law itself. He had perfect understanding of it, lived as the law and died as the law, thereby fulfilling it. After this fulfillment, then paves the way for the abolishing of the law, so no christian is expected to meet the obligations of the law anymore. It is abolished and you are free. So the Jesus you should follow is not the one who lived as the law of Moses, but the one who rose from the dead and lives as the law of liberty through the true spirit of God. They are not the same christ: The one who kept the law died, another rose from the dead. (2 Corinthians 5:16)

joeace2020: abeg your mama na virgin wen she born you?
abi dove descend from heaven con kajad for your head wen dem baptise you
abi u don ever transfigurate ontop rock once since dem born u?
or abi u teach elders for 12years old?

wen u ansa finish.. ill tell u why we can't....next

Lol...guy you wicked sha...

@ okeyxyz; hmm, so the jesus that died is not the one that rose from the dead again?

lf jesus abolished the law so make people begin kill, steal, fornicate etc since there are free from the law. So why are people still preaching when the law has been abolished.

Who told you Jesus did not break the law? Jesus broke the law yet, he did not sin.

Who told you we can't keep the law?
In fact, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us as we trust in the power of Christ. We are able to live above sin. We are saved from sin. That was the whole point of our salvation.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. KJV.

Goshen360: Who told you Jesus did not break the law? Jesus broke the law yet, he did not sin.

If you meant the sabbath,Jesus never broke it.He only interpreted it in the right perspective that it was lawful to do good during the sabbath.God instituted a day of rest.That law is eternal.Any day of your choosing can be a day of rest where you fellowship with God.We Christians see Sunday as such,since it is the first day of the week and Resurrection morning.

"What man is there among you who has one sheep, and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath" (Mat 12:11-12)

"And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath" (Mat 24:20)

There would be no reason to pray this if the Sabbath was not going to be in existence.

"And He said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath'" (Mk 2:27);

"And when the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue" (Mk 6:2). "And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read" (Luke 4:16).

"Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them on the Sabbaths" (Luke 4:31).


"The Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath...Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?" (Luke 6:5,9).

"But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath...The Lord then answered him and said, 'Hypocrite...So ought not this woman...be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?'" (Luke (13:14-16).


"'Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?'...And they could not answer Him regarding these things" (Luke 14:3,6). "are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?" (John 7:23).

okeyxyz: Firstly, you are not meant to be like Jesus.

Jesus was able to keep the laws perfectly because he was the physical incarnation of the law itself. He had perfect understanding of it, lived as the law and died as the law, thereby fulfilling it. After this fulfillment, then paves the way for the abolishing of the law, so no christian is expected to meet the obligations of the law anymore. It is abolished and you are free. So the Jesus you should follow is not the one who lived as the law of Moses, but the one who rose from the dead and lives as the law of liberty through the true spirit of God. They are not the same christ: The one who kept the law died, another rose from the dead. (2 Corinthians 5:16)

So you see the Law as chains tying Man down? In the absence of the Law, what orders Man?

@ okeyxyz: Who told you that you are not meant to be like christ? when he said, " it is necessary that a servant be like his master". what then do you think of the friends or brother of the master?

@ Goshen360: am talking about the ten commandments and not the jewish laws.

@ Joshthefirst: No more condemnation is not for he who is in christ alone, but he who also walk according to the dictates of the spirit.

please may l ask you, who is the spirit being spoken about here?

Goshen360: Who told you Jesus did not break the law? Jesus broke the law yet, he did not sin.

Complete Madness.

An Inherently satanic statement.

Stop decieving the children.

Is sin not transgression of the law? why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing.

okeyxyz: Firstly, you are not meant to be like Jesus.

Jesus was able to keep the laws perfectly because he was the physical incarnation of the law itself. He had perfect understanding of it, lived as the law and died as the law, thereby fulfilling it. After this fulfillment, then paves the way for the abolishing of the law, so no christian is expected to meet the obligations of the law anymore. It is abolished and you are free. So the Jesus you should follow is not the one who lived as the law of Moses, but the one who rose from the dead and lives as the law of liberty through the true spirit of God. They are not the same christ: The one who kept the law died, another rose from the dead. (2 Corinthians 5:16)

In respose to the bolded....

To be exactly as your master is the ultimate goal of any disciple in any culture worldwide.

This is true of the Isrealitish culture as well.

Not knowing the true meaning of descipleship is no excuse for you blasphemous statement, you have recieved your reward already.

That being said I would like to know how you personally validate your descipleship

If living as the master lived is not the standard then what is?

You are truly a child of the little horn.

Lawless man.

jdilight: @ okeyxyz: Who told you that you are not meant to be like christ? when he said, " it is necessary that a servant be like his master". what then do you think of the friends or brother of the master?

@ Goshen360: am talking about the ten commandments and not the jewish laws.

@ Joshthefirst: No more condemnation is not for he who is in christ alone, but he who also walk according to the dictates of the spirit.

please may l ask you, who is the spirit being spoken about here?

walk according to the holy spirit who changes the nature of your spirit.

MostHigh:

Complete Madness.

An Inherently satanic statement.

Stop decieving the children.

Is sin not transgression of the law? why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing.

It is really not surprising seeing how people just say things using head knoweldge when it was clearly written that JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW. He is the WORD OF GOD in flesh. He never broke any law for He came to tell us the mind of God concerning all he had said as far back as when he gave His laws. He gave us the LAW OF THE SPIRIT and that was how he spoke and acted the law while He was on earth.


As @Josh quoted, 'That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit'. Very simple. Every law has the righteousness (truth) of why it was given hidden behind a veil of letters. Anyone who cannot see it will miss it.

@ Joshthefirst: That place is not talking about the holy spirit but about the spirit in the word of God.

You remember what jesus said, "the words that l say unto you, they are spirit and they are life".

The Holy spirit is a personality that work through the word of God bros.

The word of God is the spirit you walk after (following after the word of God) not the personality called the Holy spirit.

jdilight: @ Joshthefirst: That place is not talking about the holy spirit but about the spirit in the word of God.

You remember what jesus said, "the words that l say unto you, they are spirit and they are life".

The Holy spirit is a personality that work through the word of God bros.

so how does this negate what I said? We're saying the same thing.

the fullness of God is in him,but as you grow spiritually, you will do more than him...

If the Law was abolished,i guess u can kill ur pastor and steal the church's tithes and offerings next sunday.If d law was abolished,there would not be sin and no need of a saviour.Be careful to distinguish between moral law(exo 20) and ceremonial laws(sacrifices and feast).The ceremöial laws were meant to point us to the true lamb of God(rev 13:.Christ was d antitype,the sacrificial sacrifices were the type and so when type met antitype,the veil oe the temple was torn signifying end of sacrifices which is accompanied by the ceremonial laws(heb 9,col 2:14-16).The moral laws are meant to last forever(psalm 117:7,8,mathew 5:18).However d law does nt save us,it is only a schoolmaster that drives us to Christ who will save us.The law is like a glass which shows us our dirty faces while Christ cleanses d diqty face.Ultimately,we will be judged by the law(james 2,romans2:13).However,Christians dont keep d law to be saved(only Christ does dat)but because they love God(exo 20:6,john14:15).The fact dat we are nt under d law only means that we dont keep it to be saved and we dont rely upon ourselves to keep it.

Goshen360: Who told you Jesus did not break the law? Jesus broke the law yet, he did not sin.

Jesus did not break the law. He had perfect understanding of it, lived and died as the law. Those who thought he broke the law didn't have his understanding in the first place. If they did, then there'd be no need for jesus to come because people who could fulfill it (because they understood it) were already on ground.

Joshthefirst: Who told you we can't keep the law?
In fact, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us as we trust in the power of Christ. We are able to live above sin. We are saved from sin. That was the whole point of our salvation.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. KJV.

We are not meant to keep the laws. Fulfilling the law was a debt owed and Jesus paid(fulfilled) it for us. Why do you want to continue to pay a debt you no longer owe??

Kay 17:
So you see the Law as chains tying Man down? In the absence of the Law, what orders Man?

Yes, the law was chains tying us down. Now those chains are removed, granting us personal freedom to go as we please, as we have a right to use everything the law forbade us from.

What orders man is to know truly himself, you know what is good for you and what is harmful to you. You live by truth(of your nature and liberty) and your conscience. There is no sin in whatever I am endowed with, no sin in food, drink, music, knowledge, etc. This was the way it was intended in the beginning in eden.

jdilight: @ okeyxyz: Who told you that you are not meant to be like christ? when he said, " it is necessary that a servant be like his master". what then do you think of the friends or brother of the master?

MostHigh:

In respose to the bolded....

To be exactly as your master is the ultimate goal of any disciple in any culture worldwide.

This is true of the Isrealitish culture as well.

Not knowing the true meaning of descipleship is no excuse for you blasphemous statement, you have recieved your reward already.

That being said I would like to know how you personally validate your descipleship

If living as the master lived is not the standard then what is?

You are truly a child of the little horn.

Lawless man.

Jesus was speaking into the future(ie: prophetic). The master he was referring to was not himself pre-crucifixion but himself post-crucifixion. The pre-crucifixion christ was the Law in flesh, the post-crucifixion christ was the spirit(liberty from the law) in flesh. Though the same physical entity, they are different personalities. Just like you going to school, then graduation and moving on to professional life: You are the same physical entity but different personalities, different experiences, different expectations.

okeyxyz:



Jesus was speaking into the future(ie: prophetic). The master he was referring to was not himself pre-crucifixion but himself post-crucifixion. The pre-crucifixion christ was the Law in flesh, the post-crucifixion christ was the spirit(liberty from the law) in flesh. Though the same physical entity, they are different personalities. Just like you going to school, then graduation and moving on to professional life: You are the same physical entity but different personalities, different experiences, different expectations.

Are you saying yashua Ibn Joseph practiced LAWLESSNESS "post crucifixion as you put it".

Pure sorcery.

My guy check am now, you are not making any sense

pre and post crucifixion.. what the.......

These are doctrines of decievers AKA demons

Go back and read the masters words again he never made any claim of having a multiple personality disorder, So how come its so easy for you to make such a claim.

So many insight, so many confusion. A result of numerous doctrine.

no law was abolished. hear him!

l didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it.

fulfilling here doesn't mean to do away with, but show a defeat of the law.

that a record was broken doesn't put an end to the competition, it raise the bar higher and proving it can be done. that is what jesus did.