Bludeville:
Oh no you don't! You don't talk about Darwin like this... not the father of evolution!!!

Logicboy03:


^
Proof that religion can sometimes cause mental illness.
The father of evolutionary biology is a mental midget to Reyginius. This is the same person that will take new medicine for colds/diseases- ignorant of the practical evidence for evolution that he just witnessed

Reyginus: Lol.
How you exalt evolutionary biology, I know I will be scorned by you if I do the same for a subject so dear to me.
The principal thing lb is, how do you weigh the intelligence of renowned scientists?
Is it that the mere fact that they are scientists and renowned a reason to classify them as intelligent?

Bludeville:
Oh no you don't! You don't talk about Darwin like this... not the father of the concept of evolution!!!

Logicboy03:


Strawman....I made no mention of intelligence
Point remains that Dawkins is by no means an intellectual midget. That is false, sir. As a christian, you should know better than to lie about people

Reyginus: The mere fact that you are attacking my position on his intelligence has already placed you in the same subject.
But on a serious note, I didn't lie.
There are so many scientists with this unwarranted hype. The likes of J. D charles and R. Dawkins.
Those who should be seen in the light like P. Dirac and M. Planck are shown little respect.

Logicboy03:


They could be deists too or just religiously crazy too


Belief in God existed first......religion is the fraud

Bludeville: [b]
I could agree with the bolded, or I could argue that belief in God (or belief in anything, or a lack there of) is religion already. The drawing of lines, attaching of labels, dividing that belief in God into factions and pieces is what gives the controlling power, like I said earlier, religion existed first, and then somepeople decided to turn it into a tool.

Logicboy03:


Someone that did research and came up with the most important building block in biology is an intellectual midget? Seriously?

Or do you believe that evolution is a fraud?

Reyginus: The most important building block in biology? Lololololol.
I don't believe it is a fraud, I know it is.
You are yet to understand what happens at the royal science acedemy.

Reyginus: Hope I am not derailing your thread, lb?

Reyginus:

The principal thing lb is, how do you weigh the intelligence of renowned scientists?
Is it that the mere fact that they are scientists and renowned a reason to classify them as intelligent?

Reyginus:
because
of the intelligence the concept permits.

Logicboy03:

You know that evolution is a fraud? Can you give me some quick reasons?

Bludeville:
No, but you answered your question right here.

Reyginus: I have reasons, but with you I will start with one.
That is, Evolution cannot prove the origin of the matter.

Bludeville:
This does not disprove evolution. Evolution does not try to prove the origin of matter. What evolution explains is how existing life changes over time. Evolution is as a result of inheritance, variation and selection. Evolution would still take place irrespective of how matter came to be. Try again.

Reyginus: Lololo. What do you think I am implying by that statement?
And I don't like it when my statement is cut halfway.

Reyginus:
Lololol
Do you want me to show respect to somebody
because he is the father of a concept or because
of the intelligence the concept permits?

Bludeville:
oops sorry, here is your statement in full


And I think you're implying that Darwin accidentally stumbled upon the concept of evolution ( which you think is bogus BTW ) and not as a result of his intelligence/diligence/research and as a result doesn't deserve your respect.

Reyginus: I have reasons, but with you I will start with one.
That is, Evolution cannot prove the origin of the matter.

Reyginus: I have reasons, but with you I will start with one.
That is, Evolution cannot prove the origin of the matter.

Reyginus: I hope you wouldn't mind quoting the bible verse where it was written. Let's be direct here.

Lol. What reports? Whatever report you produce, you better be ready to defend it absolutely.

I hope you are following fervently.
Your position was that, Religion was created by 'the people to rule over the people'.
I can point out the loophole created in your use of words, but I will let it pass.
I figured that you meant a few people created religion to rule over the majority.
But you still fail to pass the point across with the analogy above. You know why?
By using the word 'created', it suffice to say that, a concept is being brought into existence, that it never was, a new invention.
To now explain 'created' as what happens when a people force-feed their conquered territories concepts already in existence is a wrong and reckless use of the word.
Do you agree?

Logicboy03:


Is that what you think evolution is about? The origin of matter?


Is this guy for real?

david_hume:

Nobody can conclusively prove the origin of matter. Not even religion!

Reyginus: So you accept that the origin of species by Darwin is a fraud?

Reyginus: Lol. His theory of evolution was arrived at through his 'Origin of Species', and we cannot be talking about the origin of species without getting to the basis of their components.
That's just from the simplest of angles I can look at it.
Their is a complex one but I will leave it for now.

FOLYKAZE:

Matthew 22:20-22
King James Version (KJV)
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.


now compare the bold with this :

Deuteronomy 32:8-12
King James Version (KJV)

12 So theLord alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.

How come another person/god is sharing authority over the chosen jew? Something fishy?

FOLYKAZE:

Paul went further saying that believers should respect authorities.....is God not the owner of all authorities?

FOLYKAZE:

The green bold express the defeat push roman government were expecting from the jew. Remember constantine was a pagan and reformed pagan into christianity......pagan temples and symbols represent christ. What purpose is that for?

FOLYKAZE:

Alberto Rivera claimed the vatican invented Islam as a weapon against Jew and fall of Jerusalem. Read the report here http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html

FOLYKAZE:


Actually like everything else this was about money--europe (read the vatican) needed to control the trade routes to the east that ran through the middle east. This gave rise to the local religon islam which sought to control the vast amounts of wealth going through their lands. MONEY.
This is no different than the hebrews living in an area between the egyptian and babyonian empires created their "my god is bigger and badder than your god fable"--excellent way to raise troops and get a country on track--hitler used much of the logic.

FOLYKAZE:

Nope.....europe knows that Jesus was invented so they took advantage of it to conquer many lands. Christianity and church in england is more of politics and social values....they dont believe it.

Bible was used to promote wars, slavery and racism.....they also control the economy through religion.....politics walk in and out through religion.

Remember Iraq war and God fight saying?

Hitler said he was motivated by God....nope?

Those in the inner circle know the truth which is religion is a controlling tool so they invented one for their job.

david_hume:

It's the best explanation yet.
Better than the hocus-pocus of religion!

Logicboy03:


You do realise that you are making a fallacy?

Logicboy03:


-first mixing up biology with physics

Logicboy03:

-then, making a fallacy of non sequitur and a weird fallacy of origin

Logicboy03:


Just because all life comes from matter, it doesnt mean that one must tie evolution down to matter.

Logicboy03:

Not all matter is organic. Biology deals with life.

Logicboy03:

Use your brain....guy, you are foolish

Logicboy03:


^
Proof that religion can sometimes cause mental illness.
The father of evolutionary biology is a mental midget to Reyginius. This is the same person that will take new medicine for colds/diseases- ignorant of the practical evidence for evolution that he just witnessed

Joshthefirst: okay. This is a blatant lie.
Darwinian evolution is a change of kind. Not a change of species. It is purely unscientific. There is no shred of evidence for darwinian evolution.
What you just said is actually proof that you are so against God that you would label mere speculation as science and shamelessly lie to draw people away from the real God.