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| Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Jayses(m): 6:13pm On Nov 16, 2013 |
The book of Revelation has always presented the interpreter with challenges. The book is steeped in vivid imagery and symbolism which people have interpreted differently depending on their preconceptions of the book as a whole ,so what is ur own take regarding the figure , is it really what the witness says it is ? Rev 7:4.......... |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by holypower(m): 7:28pm On Nov 16, 2013 |
These are the people who were chosen and saved at last but it is after the rapture of the saints... They finally know that JESUS CHRIST is the LORD(because they are jews). They evangelized and exposed the anti-CHRIST's who are present and many believed their messgae and are ready to die for JESUS CHRIST..... 144,000 is the total number of jews who believed finally that JESUS CHRIST is LORD and they are each 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. They will be saved at last but before that the rapture of the saints has taken place before the case of this 144;000 and in that Rev 6 is now talking about the pouring of GOD's wrath upon the earth which will happen after the rapture of the earth. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Jayses(m): 1:57pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
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| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Kei144(m): 2:57pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
holypower: These are the people who were chosen and saved at last but it is after the rapture of the saints... They finally know that JESUS CHRIST is the LORD(because they are jews). They evangelized and exposed the anti-CHRIST's who are present and many believed their messgae and are ready to die for JESUS CHRIST..... What you have posted is crap that pre-tribulation rapture proponents taught for decades. But end time is now more clearly understood and it is now known that pre-trib rapture is a farce. Pre-trib rapture proponents taught that gentile Christian faithfuls will be raptured up to heaven before the end-time tribulation begins; thereafter, God will focus all His love on Jews who hitherto refused to believe in Jesus Christ. That is how the teaching that God will graciously open the eyes of only 144,000 of the unbelieving Jews so that they believe and be saved came about. I don't know why human beings like to invent doctrines that are not clearly described in the Bible, which the churches accept as "word of God". Word of which God? One principle that is clearly stated in the Bible is: First for the Jew, then the gentile (Rom 1:16). There is no blessing of God that will first go to gentiles before going to Jews. In fact, whatever blessing God has for mankind is for Jews; gentiles share in the blessing by joining the Jews. It is unfortunate that gentile Christians do not even realize that without the Jews, they can never qualify for the rapture. Eph 5:27 specifies the qualification for rapture; how many gentile Christians meet the qualification today? Ez. 36:22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. Ez. 36:25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. Ez. 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. Ez. 36:27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. Ro. 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. Ro. 11:12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring! Ro. 11:15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? Ro. 11:16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. In Romans 11, Apostle Paul states that (ancient) Israel is the firstfruit and that the Church cannot reach holiness if the firstfruits are not holy. When God fulfills the promise of Ezekiel 36 quoted above, the Jews will help the Church to rise from the dead; holiness will come to the churches. The 144,000 are end-time apostles of Christ. During the time of Jesus' earthly ministry, He had 12 Jewish apostles to cover the small nation of Israel at that time. Jesus will raise up 144,000 Jewish apostles just before the end time begins to preach the gospel of the kingdom (Mt 24:14) to every part of the world. They will preach the gospel even in Mecca. Because of the seal of God upon them, no one will be able to touch them. Mt. 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Mt. 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place `the abomination that causes desolation’, [Daniel 9:27; 11:31; 12:11] spoken of through the prophet Daniel — let the reader understand — Re. 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no-one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. Re. 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron sceptre. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The end-time ministry of the 144,000 end-time apostles will last for 3½ years—the first half of the 7 years of tribulation. Mt 24:15 marks the beginning of the last 3½ years; the Antichrist removes his mask, because he that restrains has been removed (2 Thes 2:6). In Rev 7, just after the description of the 144,000 Israelites, verse 9 shows the crowd of people that make the rapture. They are a result of the ministry of the 144,000. In Rev 12, the 144,000 Israelites form the woman that gives birth to the man child that is snatched up to heaven (rapture). Who are the man child? See them in Rev 7:9. Without the 144,000 Israelites, the Church can never experience the rapture. The reason why the pre-trib teachers conjured up the false doctrine is because they think that the Israelis of today and all former European Jews are the only Jews in the world. They do not know that God hid the best Jews in Africa. These Jews believe solidly in Jesus Christ. They are the ones that will preach the end-time gospel of the kingdom. That is why the most prominent prophets in the world point at Nigeria, as where the great end-time revival will commence. The 144,000 Israelites will be sealed in April 2014. They give birth to the man child on 23 September, 2017. https://www.nairaland.com/1447777/apocalyptic-end-time-begins-2014 |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Kobojunkie: 9:29pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Jayses:They were the elect chosen and sealed by God during the first century AD before the last days of God's Nation of Israel(and Judah) came to a close as part of God's final judgment against the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan.  |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Ken4Christ: 11:29pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Jayses: First, they are Jews. Second, they will be picked from the twelve tribes of Israel - 12,000 from each tribe. Third, they are blameless before God. They never defiled themselves with women. Fourth, they are the elect Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24. Fifth, they will be sealed for protection when God begins to unleash his seven trumpet judgment. Sixth, they will be raptured before the end of the great tribulation period the Jews will pass through. I am actually working on a book concerning the events of the last days as unveiled in the Bible and the book of Revelation. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Kobojunkie: 11:30pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
oh boy! Another book of lies is to be added to the myriads of books of lies out there. Great! |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 11:54pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Jayses:they are the 12 tribes of Israel and nothing more. This simply implies that the Jews were never excluded from the kingdom of God, Forget witnesses! |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:10am On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: This is where the value of that word "electt" is seen especially in this days as we see that isreal is definitely gonna burn. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:26am On Aug 05, 2023 |
The 144,000 are spiritual Israelites they aren't the literal Israelites we've always known in the Bible! So to fully grasp it's meaning try to contact the Witnesses and study God's word with any of us within your territory we will teach you! Matthew 28:20 https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:32am On Aug 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Those who want jw madness have taken it. But it is apparent today that this Israel we see are definitely not God's people. Thus, it is very understable why only 12000 of each of their tribes will be found true people of God |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: My business is with the OP please i have no business with you. Thanks!  |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 10:38am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:that scripture or anywhere in the bible never mentioned anything about this current day, Jw's are all dreaming day light delusion, It's never for them . It specifically mentioned all the 12 tribes of Israel at that time or era of the bible, not now 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:41am On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: Why can't you people just humble yourselves and learn? Before JWs baptised anyone as a member he or she would have studied the Bible diligently before speaking confidently about the scriptures. Now open your copy of the Bible no matter the version you're using to Exodus 1:2-5 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin, Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher. And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already. The highlighted in green shows the ORIGINAL twelve tribes of the sons of Jacob (Israel) But in the Bible book of Revelations this is what you'll find: Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulun were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. So the new list comprises of these tribes: Judah Reuben Gad Asher Naphtali Manasseh Simeon Levi Issachar Zebulun Joseph Benjamin Please what happened to the tribe of Dan? And why Manasseh who is not Jacob's son? |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 12:16pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:deligently,like Charles T. Russel a primary school drop out of the 19th century in the US who Illiterately misinterpreted scriptures to form your doctrines? No now! so, what has this got to do with Jw? notwithstanding, one is yet to see Jw among these tribes 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by orisa37: 1:54pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
4000 WISEMEN FROM EACH OF OUR 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES THAT SHOULD ALWAYS COME TOGETHER TO DECLARE WAR FOR NIGERIA. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:01pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel:This is not about Western education remember that Jesus' disciples weren't learned according to the standard of people in the first century yet they're the first to be anointed by God's Holy Spirit: Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. Acts 4:13 So Jesus doesn't work with worldly standards! paxonel:At least you know now that you're wrong Jesus wasn't referring to the natural Israelites! |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:39pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: I know you have your delusions but Revelations is about the future of which we are the generations seeing its fulfillment. Hence looking at how isreal is very very antiGod today we can see how and why only 12000 per tribe will be real-eyesable. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:21pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: If you wanted a private buisiness with the op you would have sent him a D.M. when you post here, you are everybody's business and your devilish posts are worthy of burning 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 3:33pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:quote one scripture that suggest revelation is about the future, just one do you agree that jw isn't among the 12,000 per tribe?? 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:44pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: The names of tribes in Revelations 6:5-8 shows most part of the tribes will be selected among first century Christians. "Manasseh" made the list while Dan's name was removed, this means some members of first century Christians won't make the list as they're not anointed Christians but that chance will be given to those anointed later during the last days. So anointed members of Jehovah's Witnesses today are part of the Manasseh tribe who wasn't a direct son of Jacob! |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:08pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: We saw the test run of Revelations 13:17 https://www.nairaland.com/7549715/new-notes-scarcity-prophecy-hardness#120542942 And all those chip implant things now.running https://www.nairaland.com/7074000/new-microchip-lets-pay-contactless#111859883 paxonel: Jw are devils and are therefore mad to say that they are the 12000. Every reasonable person knows that, they are mad devils in disguise 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 5:15pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:there is nothing in revelation 13:17 to show that it is about the future this is a clear conspiracy theory and has nothing to do with the bible the same Charles Russel who deceived them that the world was coming to an end in 1914 deceived them that they are the 12,000 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 5:24pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
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| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: Just as John the baptist DECEIVED his disciples that Christ will begin ruling in the first century but ended up in prison then confused as to whether Jesus is the Christ shey? Matthew 11:2-3 Well Jesus told his listeners: Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Matthew 11:11 Know today that among them that are claiming preachers of God's word since 1914 there has not risen a greater than Charles Taze Russell. That's why his name keeps ringing a bell in the minds of all your pastors as the group that emerged through his works has proved to be the global family of peace loving worshipers as prophesied {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} they are the world's most zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word till today! Act 1:8  |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:34pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel: You are just as deluded as the jws . Revelations was thousands of years back and we in its future in year 2023 saw and experienced its prophecy of hardness of buying and selling as well as the making of some things requiring hands and forehead to be used for trade. So, this is you just denying the Truth you have seen. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:42pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
paxonel:Out of all the religions carrying the Bible today the OP could only think of the highlighted below: Jayses: Just as Jesus Christ said our works will stand as a WITNESS to all unbelievers like you: "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come". Matthew 24:14 So keep denying what is obvious to all sincere people at least you and your pastors are still abusing, insulting and cursing yourselves as you've been doing here with all your fellow churchgoers {Luke 11:23} while true disciples of Christ (Jehovah's Witnesses) are speaking in harmony globally! John 17:22 |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 9:35pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:how about mark 666 mentioned in verse 18, do you experience that one too? |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:19am On Aug 06, 2023 |
paxonel: Another proof it was talking about the future. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 6:59am On Aug 06, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:simple question, have you ever seen or experience mark666 ? |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:03am On Aug 06, 2023 |
paxonel: We experienced the hardnesss of buying andselling together, so you already know the answer. And this the mere fact that we waiting for it is proof of revelations talking about the.future which we are. |
| Re: Who Are The 144,000 In The Bible ? by paxonel(m): 7:31am On Aug 06, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:how is absence of buying and selling different from restriction of economic activities which may happen occasionally throughout human history? For your information, during the era of slavery, some slaves were never allowed to buy and sell. In the old testament when Pharoah enslaved the Israelites, possibly the Israelites were restricted of economic activities in Egypt, isn't that worst than what you experienced during the covid lockdown where you were never enslaved? If your so called end time was dependent on you not being able to buy and sell, certainly, the world would have ended in the days of Pharoah and the Israelites |
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