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What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by CollinsColz(m): 4:26pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
Am just wondering because have only seen ASUU, medical doctors and others going on strike, but am yet to see the police force, army, airforce and navy going on strike. so what will happen in nigeria if the security forces decides to go on strike |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 4:32pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
The police force went on strike in the early 2000s (when Musiliu Smith was Inspector General). They demanded for prompt payment of their Lodging Allowance. They refused to turn up for work and some junior officers interrupted transmission on police radio. Some of the leaders of the protest were later arrested. It is believed that the strike was one of the reasons why President Obasanjo eventually sacked Mr Smith. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by khamas19: 4:34pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
...20 naira notes will flood the market... |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by CollinsColz(m): 4:42pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
naptu2: The police force went on strike in the early 2000s (when Musiliu Smith was Inspector General). They demanded for prompt payment of their Lodging Allowance. They refused to turn up for work and some junior officers interrupted transmission on police radio. Some of the leaders of the protest were later arrested.ok i did not know about that, but what will happen if the army, airforce and navy decides to go on strike for 2 days? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 4:46pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
Collins Colz: I doubt that the army would go on strike. They would rather mutiny. That has happened a few times in the past (the most recent case that I can remember occurred when some soldiers alleged that they were not paid their UN allowance. Some soldiers were initially sentenced to life in prison for that mutiny). |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by DonColz1(m): 5:07pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
naptu2:you are just assuming, are you trying to say that the security forces can never go on strike What of if jonathan refuses to pay the security forces (army, navy and airforce) for one month, don't you think that they would go on strike |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 7:07pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
DonColz1: They will not go on strike, they will mutiny. Think about it this way. You have guns, bombs and tanks. You have power. You can actually change the government and get away with it. Why will you stop at a strike? Won't you take your guns into town, block traffic, etc, like the soldiers in Ilorin did? I hope you know that, in the armed forces, a mere strike is = mutiny, so why will you stop at a strike? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by psquaret: 10:24pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
yes he is correct, force men don't strike. it is forbidding and when u are caught that will be the end of the officer job. and it is even a big offense for an officer to commit mutiny. mutiny is an offense against indiscipline in the force. it is expected that an officer is not,I mean is not to question an order given by the superior officer. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by Nobody: 10:27pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
If policemen go on strike, it will be free season for armed robbers. Pray the policemen you hate so much never go on strike or you're all toast. Ungrateful buggers. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by Nobody: 2:43am On Nov 30, 2013 |
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Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by Nobody: 2:51am On Nov 30, 2013 |
And what difference will it make if they go on strike? It's an undisputable fact that every Nigerian is a protector of him/herself so they can go to he ll for all I care By the way, OP, please edit that "GOES" of yours, it's embarrassing |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by Nobody: 3:24am On Nov 30, 2013 |
Collins Colz: Am just wondering because have only seen ASUU, medical doctors and others going on strike, but am yet to see the police force, army, airforce and navy going on strike. Constitutionally, medical doctors and the armed forces are not permitted to strike because they are part of essential services (ref: Trade Unions Act, section 30 sub-section 6 a). If they were allowed to strike, people would not have access to essential services (access to health care, security) and that would violate our fundamental rights as citizens. Education is also part of essential services in Nigeria ( Teaching, ETC Essential Services Act 1993), therefore the ASUU strike Is illegal too. The rIght to strIke can not conflict with the fundamental rights enshrined in the bill of rights, therefore, in attempt for balance - essential service workers can not strike, disputes can only be resolved by compulsory arbitration. The ASUU strIke Is an unprotected strIke and as a consequence, it exposes the union to legal action that could compel them to pay damages to aggrieved parties that have suffered any kind of loss due to the strike. But in Nigeria, virtually everyone breaks the law and seems to be beyond prosecution. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 4:35am On Nov 30, 2013 |
Idi Amin: And what difference will it make if they go on strike? It's an undisputable fact that every Nigerian is a protector of him/herself so they can go to he ll for all I care He initially wrote, "What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Police Force Goes On Strike For 2 Days?". He changed it to "security forces" when I said that the police have gone on strike in the past. He forgot to change the word "goes". |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by gratiaeo(m): 6:58am On Nov 30, 2013 |
If police, army, navy, airforce and other law enforcement agencies go on strike @ the same time agberos and motor pack touts will overrun Lagos. Boko haram will Islamize north. Kidnappers will kidnap sitting governors in the East. We will never hear anything like shell in the niger delta again |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by CollinsColz(m): 7:08am On Nov 30, 2013 |
naptu2:you did not get my point, you know we are in a democratic country, so we assume that the military cannot take over for now, now we assume that Jonathan just all of a sudden decides not to pay the military (based on assumption) don't you think they would go on strike Note- we are just assuming, because you know in a democratic nation the military can never take over, e.g Usa |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 7:41am On Nov 30, 2013 |
Collins Colz: You don't understand. We don't have to assume anything. I'm going to give you real life examples |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 7:54am On Nov 30, 2013 |
From memory: Nigerian soldiers had just returned from a UN peacekeeping mission. The were to receive an allowance from the UN, but Nigerian Army accountants made an error. They paid the unit in Akure half of their allowance and paid the unit in Ilorin 50% more than they were supposed to receive. Members of the unit in Ilorin celebrated, while the unit in Akure mutinied. Read below. PANIC IN AKURE AS SOLDIERS EMBARK ON STREET PROTEST http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/index.php?topic=5656.0;wap The soldiers that were involved in the mutiny in Akure were arrested, tried and sentenced to life imprisonment. Their commander was also punished for being unable to control his men. The accountants and members of the unit in Ilorin were also severely punished (the accountants were punished for their error, while the soldiers in Ilorin were punished for failing to report that they had been overpaid). Relatives of the jailed soldiers mounted a sustained media campaign to get them freed. They claimed that senior soldiers stole the allowances. Eventually, due to public pressure, President Jonathan commuted their sentences to 7 years imprisonment. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 8:00am On Nov 30, 2013 |
[size=14pt]Praise The Guts Of Some Some Junior Police Officers[/size] http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7147.htm |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by homesteady(m): 8:05am On Nov 30, 2013 |
naptu2: while the soldiers in Ilorin were punished for |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 8:11am On Nov 30, 2013 |
[size=14pt]Nigerian Army Pardons Akure 27[/size] http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigerian-army-pardons-akure-27/72777 |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by DonColz1(m): 9:56am On Nov 30, 2013 |
Ok the soldiers went on strike and they were given life imprisonment, but that was in ondo state only, now imagine if it was nationwide, i mean the whole of nigeria, are you trying to say that they would imprison all the whole soldiers in Nigeria?, that is impossible nah, we are in a dynamic world, infact everything is changing. I want to ask you a question, did anybody ever believe that the medical doctors will go on strike? Did anybody ever believe that jonathan would order the federal universities to open without ASUU? Did anybody ever believe that they would release asari dokubo? So you see anything can happen, don't be surprise when jonathan will wake up one day and decide not to pay the military, Or don't you use to hear when jonathan would say that Nigeria has no money? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 10:07am On Nov 30, 2013 |
DonColz1: Ok the soldiers went on strike and they were given life imprisonment, but that was in ondo state only, now imagine if it was nationwide, i mean the whole of nigeria, are you trying to say that they would imprison all the whole soldiers in Nigeria?, that is impossible nah, we are in a dynamic world, infact everything is changing. I want to ask you a question, did anybody ever believe that the medical doctors will go on strike? The soldiers did not go on strike, they mutinied (going on strike implies that they simply refused to work. They went on a violent protest). Soldiers will not go on strike in Nigeria. They will not simply refuse to work. They will either lay their complaints through established channels or they will mutiny (that is, go on a violent protest or even overthrow the government). They know the consequences of a mere strike, why strike when you can use force of arms? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by DonColz1(m): 10:17am On Nov 30, 2013 |
naptu2:ok thats your own point of view, so are you trying to tell me that if they don't receive their salary for 4 months like ASUU, they would still not go on strike? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by naptu2: 10:25am On Nov 30, 2013 |
DonColz1: I've already answered that question. I'll ask you a question instead. What's the difference between a violent mutiny and a strike? |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by Nobody: 11:05am On Nov 30, 2013 |
naptu2: Forget that guy, hes probably 16, imagining things in his tiny teenage brain. Cant he read examples you gave him....how in Gods name will security forces go on strike....the army?? This is a dumb thread. Infact raggedy ann gave a conclusion to this thread. They r not allowed to since they are essential services. The army would rather take over the government. |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by DonColz1(m): 12:24pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
naptu2:thats where the problem lies, you are talking about mutiny while am talking about strike... MUTINY- Is an open rebellion against authority by soldiers or sailors-- Rebellion is a fight against an established government or ruler. While STRIKE- is the refusal to work as a form of organised protest. So you see mutiny and strike are two different topic, but the topic we are discussing here is strike, and i was not only talking about the soldiers, i was also talking about the police, airforce, and navy, you got to think like an economist, try to assume sometimes, this world is based on assumption, how can someone say that the world is coming to an end, can't you see that that person is assuming, so try to look into the future and forget the past... Now if a situation in which fed govt want to scrap out ASUU can occur in the future, don't you think that the security forces can also go on strike, based on the assumption that we are living in a democratic country, just try to reason the situation... |
Re: What Would Happen In Nigeria If The Security Forces Goes On Strike For 2 Days? by DonColz1(m): 12:25pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
.... nutty_hnic: |
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