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The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 7:06am On Dec 08, 2013
The sons of God

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Genesis 6:1-5


There are different schools of thought as to who the sons of God are in this particular verse, I will want to believe the reason is that man finds it difficult to comprehend how spiritual beings could have such relationship with man, so many when they come to this point assume the sons of God referred to are men devoted to serving the Lord. It was believed that after Cain was sent away from the presence of the Lord, he lived as a fugitive somewhere away from the remaining children of Adam and Eve, he built a city as the bible said and started a new kind of race who do not care much about God and was bad and wicked, are referred to as the sons of men. And that the remaining children of Adam and Eve which started with Enosh was also in a place of their own and lived away from Cain’ people who were bad and wicked, were referred to as the sons of God because they actually cared about God, seek to know Him better and try to rediscover what they lost in the Garden of Eden, so they started calling upon His name more and called themselves by the name of the Lord. Though to some extent this is right except in the case of the sons of God are the sons of Enosh, and the sons of men are the sons of Cain which does not correlate with the scripture and does not fully fit in the context of the times and dispensation they were in. Going through the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation, whenever the bible made mention of the sons of God, the bible meant supernatural beings (angels Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Daniel 3:25 before the coming of Christ though) and not just men that are devoted to God. This we look at more closely as we allow the scripture to explain itself and consider in context the times and seasons the event took place.

We will look closely at the context of the scripture and what prevails in that dispensation; during the early times when man was created it was a normal thing for the supernatural beings to have relations with man. It was not thought abnormal when the serpent talked to the woman and convinced her to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the identity of the serpent was fully known as that of a supernatural being, being the devil himself; though the serpent was just an animal, the devil possessed its body in order to be able to carry out his schemes. It is also a known fact from the scriptures that it was not just the devil that rebelled; there were other angels that joined in the rebellion, so if the devil could have had relations with humans as at the time, the other angels too can. Also during the time of Cain and Abel, the Lord spoke personally to Cain and warned him when he abhorred evil thoughts in his heart; the bible never portrayed Cain or Eve as being scared or seeing it as something weird. The truth was that even after the fall man still has spiritual abilities unlike today, man was still spiritual irrespective of the fall and could do supernatural things himself and relate with supernatural beings.

The sons of God that was mentioned in this scripture are actually the fallen angels (demons), who already have rebelled but still have some spiritual abilities to accomplish some things, and besides there was nothing for them to do any more because they had forsaken authority and their duties, so they were just perambulating the earth as their master the devil was and is still doing Job 1:7; 2:2.
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 7:07am On Dec 08, 2013
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Jude 6 & Job 1:6-7


When some of the angels decided to listen to the devil and rebelled against God, forsook authority, left their responsibility which God had given to them and decided to be independent. The bible says that some of them were kept under chains till the Day of Judgment, while some of them were released with the devil to roam the surface of the earth for an appointed period of time till they will be punished. Those that were released upon the surface of the earth with the devil had nothing to do since they have rebelled against authority and neglect their assignments, so they just roam about the surface of the earth. Their plans of overthrowing the kingdom of God was not done away with and they were also very angry at God for casting them away, so they tend to stand against anything that is of God. They also know that if they stand any chance at God they would need the cooperation of man in order for them to be able carry out their plans, because he was created in the image and likeness of God (spirit, soul and body) and unique unlike them, and also was perfectly built to rule on earth.

Though the bible says that the sons of God (angels) saw the beauty of the daughters of the sons of men and chose as they wanted, it was not just the beauty that attracted them to man but their ulterior motives to thwart the plans of God. It was like having a greater goal and enjoying the present satisfaction that comes in process of accomplishing the ultimate goal; they lust for man because of his uniqueness and saw the beauty of the female counterpart, so they went after them. Remember angels are neither male nor female according to the scriptures, so coming into the children of men (female) was not just for sex nor wanting to have children by them, it was solely to thwart the works of God. The bible says when the sons of God (fallen angels) went in to the children of men they had children by them; this is difficult to understand which is why there are many schools of thought concerning the identity of the sons of God. No one can fully say how it came to be but the scripture clearly state that they had children by them, but it clearly explains why the children were great and giants but nullify the assertion that the sons of God are the sons of Enosh, for if they had been the sons of Enosh there was no way they could have children that was different and with different features and capabilities. The bible recorded that the children born to them where giants, mighty men of old and renown, they had that supernatural touch in them which was obviously different from that of normal humans. The bible also says that the children born to them were wicked; the reason for their wickedness is simple because they were of the seed that was corrupt. Remember the plans of the angels was to thwart the work of God and in corrupting the seed of man they might actually fulfill their aim, so their actions was purely a calculated one but God being sovereign and can never be outwitted undo all that by doing two things. The first thing God did was to cut down the years of man, at that time man live for so long about a thousand years and because of that the fallen angels could accomplish much, so God cut down the years to an hundred and twenty, the second thing God did which was the last straw that broke the camel’s back, the flood that killed all life.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Genesis 1:7

God decided to put an end to man and beast, now the question in every mind should be why destroying the animals along with man? Remember Eve and the serpent in the Garden of Eden, the devil possessed the serpent and spoke to the woman through the serpent. What actually happened was that the devil is a spiritual being with no physical body for him to be able to carry out his schemes on earth, he needed a physical body and took hold of the body of the serpent to be physically active on earth, and just as the devil did the other fallen angels were doing. The fallen angels are spiritual beings and needed a physical body on earth too, so they took hold of as many bodies as they can find and as it were, the bodies of other creatures (animals and the dead humans) were available. The fallen angels really did much in trying to corrupt the works of God; they corrupted the seed of man, took hold of the animals and caused great chaos on earth. For all this God just had to put a stop to man and animals and start afresh, so He brought about the flood. The flood came for two reasons, the plans of the fallen angels (whenever I mentioned the fallen angels, the devil is included because he is one of them, though we always try to separate him in our thought) was progressing and needed to be stopped, and secondly man has become so corrupt and was getting worse by the day (posing a threat to the plans of God, for the inclination of his heart was evil always Genesis 6:5), and would only take divine intervention for sanity to be restored. God decided to put a stop to man, but His intention was not to permanently do that because He has a plan and man seem to be at the center of it, though His plans was truncated but never to be defeated. The flood eventually came on earth, but the Lord saved a family for Himself and some selected animals in order to start afresh and kick back his plans to life.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by dimexilux(m): 7:08am On Dec 08, 2013
nice writeup

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 7:10am On Dec 08, 2013
dimexilux: nice writeup
Thanks
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 8:26am On Dec 08, 2013
Nice one!! It is glaring that the sons of God referred to in Genesis 6 were the later fallen angels (demons) that corrupted humanity by teaching the ancients production of weaponry, witch crafting & sorcery amongst other evil activities!

The ancient Greek & Roman gods were probably some of those fallen angels; In Greek and Roman mythology, their gods sometimes take humans as wives/husbands giving birth to Demigods (half human/half god). Of course they were gods/god-like to the ancient man because of their extraordinary abilities/knowledge and powers which clearly differentiated them from pure humans!!

It makes a lot of sense when you put all these mythologies and biblical facts together. These issues were clearly referenced in the apocryphal book of Enoch and a little part of it in Jude 1:6.

Nice one Pastor Olu T!

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Jayses(m): 8:52am On Dec 08, 2013
Understood
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by adesiku(m): 9:16am On Dec 08, 2013
Have been enlightened dis mornin, nice one

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by zicky(m): 10:16am On Dec 08, 2013
For some time I hav bin having problem with dat verse of d scripture, getting so many unconvincing explanations. Especially as regard d "Sons of God" n "daughters of men"
. Nice explanation

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Adrenaline123(m): 11:04am On Dec 08, 2013
Nice write up Sir, well done.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 12:19pm On Dec 08, 2013
doubleDx: Nice one!! It is glaring that the sons of God referred to in Genesis 6 were the later fallen angels (demons) that corrupted humanity by teaching the ancients production of weaponry, witch crafting & sorcery amongst other evil activities!

The ancient Greek & Roman gods were probably some of those fallen angels; In Greek and Roman mythology, their gods sometimes take humans as wives/husbands giving birth to Demigods (half human/half god). Of course they were gods/god-like to the ancient man because of their extraordinary abilities/knowledge and powers which clearly differentiated them from pure humans!!

It makes a lot of sense when you put all these mythologies and biblical facts together. These issues were clearly referenced in the apocryphal book of Enoch and a little part of it in Jude 1:6.

Nice one Pastor Olu T!

You are very right about the Greek mythology, so much happened during the early times which is the reason for the present confusion we have around!
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 12:58pm On Dec 08, 2013
A question to the OP. In the second post, you said something that some of the angels of Genesis 6 were bound while others were set free to roam the world and carry out the desires of their new master- the devil. Did i get you well?
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 6:55pm On Dec 08, 2013
idnoble135: A question to the OP. In the second post, you said something that some of the angels of Genesis 6 were bound while others were set free to roam the world and carry out the desires of their new master- the devil. Did i get you well?

Obviously not all of them are under chain, for if it is we will not have demonic activities. Though the bible said in Jude 1:6 that they were kept under chains, but was silent if it was all of them. But we know from the records of the bible after then and till present activities, that fallen angels (demons) are still very much around.
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 7:10pm On Dec 08, 2013
Pastor Olu T:

Obviously not all of them are under chain, for if it is we will not have demonic activities. Though the bible said in Jude 1:6 that they were kept under chains, but was silent if it was all of them. But we know from the from the records of the bible after then till present activities that fallen angels (demons) are still very much around.
I think the bible was precise in it's choice of words. Bible says,
And the angels who did not keep their proper
domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved
in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 6

The Bible uses the article 'the' which is definite. It is safe to say it must be all the angels that erred in chapter six of Genesis that are in chains(since the scriptures never talked about them in two divisions but as the which is definite).
By the way, what do you think of the one third angels In Revelation?

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon
fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth
the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom
of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the
accuser of our brethren is cast down, which
accused them before our God day and night Revelation 12:7-10.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 7:53pm On Dec 08, 2013
idnoble135:
I think the bible was precise in it's choice of words. Bible says,
And the angels who did not keep their proper
domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved
in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 6

The Bible uses the article 'the' which is definite. It is safe to say it must be all the angels that erred in chapter six of Genesis that are in chains(since the scriptures never talked about them in two divisions but as the which is definite).
By the way, what do you think of the one third angels In Revelation?

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon
fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth
the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom
of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the
accuser of our brethren is cast down, which
accused them before our God day and night Revelation 12:7-10.

Lets be done with this before going to the book of Revelation. Truth it was THE angels that kept nt their first position, bt how would u know it was all the angels in Genesis 6? The devil is also an angel that kept not his position n his not chains presently with some other demons, how do reconcile that?
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 8:15pm On Dec 08, 2013
Pastor Olu T:

Lets be done with this before going to the book of Revelation. Truth it was THE angels that kept nt their first position, bt how would u know it was all the angels in Genesis 6? The devil is also an angel that kept not his position n his not chains presently with some other demons, how do reconcile that?
There is no indication that the devil was part of the act of Genesis six. As a matter of fact it is important for us to note that the fall of satan occurred before Genesis six. His fall was as a result of pride, but the event of Genesis six was as a result of breach of protocol. The earth was made and given to men as man's domain. God permitted intimacy between humans and not angels. That's why scriptures say they did not keep their first estate, which is the spirit world. That was where they were made to function. So, they acted against God's law of them remaining in their sphere. So, it could not be the same event.
P. S
I try not to quote exactly from the word because my bible is not handy. You can ask where you would that i should produce a verse and I'd do as I can.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 8:42pm On Dec 08, 2013
idnoble135:
There is no indication that the devil was part of the act of Genesis six. As a matter of fact it is important for us to note that the fall of satan occurred before Genesis six. His fall was as a result of pride, but the event of Genesis six was as a result of breach of protocol. The earth was made and given to men as man's domain. God permitted intimacy between humans and not angels. That's why scriptures say they did not keep their first estate, which is the spirit world. That was where they were made to function. So, they acted against God's law of them remaining in their sphere. So, it could not be the same event.
P. S
I try not to quote exactly from the word because my bible is not handy. You can ask where you would that i should produce a verse and I'd do as I can.

True that, the devil fall was way before then, but u should know that the angels in chapter 6 are the already fallen angels (demons) with the devil prior this time, though u cant say for sure 'cos the bible was silent about that. Also u cant say its not them 'cos the bible only mentioned SONS OF GOD not differentiating them. The point I am making on this thread is that the sons of God are fallen angels which is well understood ('cos of different schools of thought that they are sons Enosh, men devoted to God). Any other thing is just speculations, it is also well understood that there are demonic activities which happened then n continue in our days.

The point is not if they were all under chain or not, for the fact still remain that other angels that rebelled with the devil also left their position to rebel, so Jude could be referring to the same angels!
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 9:06pm On Dec 08, 2013
Pastor Olu T:

True that, the devil fall was way before then, but u should know that the angels in chapter 6 are the already fallen angels (demons) with the devil prior this time, though u cant say for sure 'cos the bible was silent about that. Also u cant say its not them 'cos the bible only mentioned SONS OF GOD not differentiating them. The point I am making on this thread is that the sons of God are fallen angels which is well understood ('cos of different schools of thought that they are sons Enosh, men devoted to God). Any other thing is just speculations, it is also well understood that there are demonic activities which happened then n continue in our days.

The point is not if they were all under chain or not, for the fact still remain that other angels that rebelled with the devil also left their position to rebel, so Jude could be referring to the same angels!
I picked something out of th thread and was quite interested in it. I would have love to carry on the discussion so we can examine it carefully. But it seems that's not the main focus of the thread. It's all good. Shalom.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 9:14pm On Dec 08, 2013
idnoble135:
I picked something out of th thread and was quite interested in it. I would have love to carry on the discussion so we can examine it carefully. But it seems that's not the main focus of the thread. It's all good. Shalom.

Nope we can carry on with ur observation, I just want to certify the obvious of the thread.
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by twosquare(m): 2:41am On Dec 09, 2013
Actually; having read some hebrewic texts....the beings that fell in Genesis chapter 6 are different from the ones that fell with satan in the beginning.... they are not with satan in his own coup d'etat.They fell after the fall of man....They are refered to as WATCHERS who are appointed to reduce the influence of Satan on mankind and protect them from his evil.But driven by their own will and lust,they too fell....no wonder Jude said they left their “first estate".... neglecting their responsibilities. They were reserved in chains of darkness.... coz those guys even if not put in check will be disastrous (they are for themselves, not for satan)....they taught men evil things and opened them to Knowledge not ought to be known by man.
Reading the Book of Jasher&Book of Enoch will shed more light.

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 4:09am On Dec 09, 2013
Pastor Olu T: Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Jude 6 & Job 1:6-7


When some of the angels decided to listen to the devil and rebelled against God, forsook authority, left their responsibility which God had given to them and decided to be independent. The bible says that some of them were kept under chains till the Day of Judgment, while some of them were released with the devil to roam the surface of the earth for an appointed period of time till they will be punished. Those that were released upon the surface of the earth with the devil had nothing to do since they have rebelled against authority and neglect their assignments, so they just roam about the surface of the earth. Their plans of overthrowing the kingdom of God was not done away with and they were also very angry at God for casting them away, so they tend to stand against anything that is of God. They also know that if they stand any chance at God they would need the cooperation of man in order for them to be able carry out their plans, because he was created in the image and likeness of God (spirit, soul and body) and unique unlike them, and also was perfectly built to rule on earth.

Though the bible says that the sons of God (angels) saw the beauty of the daughters of the sons of men and chose as they wanted, it was not just the beauty that attracted them to man but their ulterior motives to thwart the plans of God. It was like having a greater goal and enjoying the present satisfaction that comes in process of accomplishing the ultimate goal; they lust for man because of his uniqueness and saw the beauty of the female counterpart, so they went after them. Remember angels are neither male nor female according to the scriptures, so coming into the children of men (female) was not just for sex nor wanting to have children by them, it was solely to thwart the works of God. The bible says when the sons of God (fallen angels) went in to the children of men they had children by them; this is difficult to understand which is why there are many schools of thought concerning the identity of the sons of God. No one can fully say how it came to be but the scripture clearly state that they had children by them, but it clearly explains why the children were great and giants but nullify the assertion that the sons of God are the sons of Enosh, for if they had been the sons of Enosh there was no way they could have children that was different and with different features and capabilities. The bible recorded that the children born to them where giants, mighty men of old and renown, they had that supernatural touch in them which was obviously different from that of normal humans. The bible also says that the children born to them were wicked; the reason for their wickedness is simple because they were of the seed that was corrupt. Remember the plans of the angels was to thwart the work of God and in corrupting the seed of man they might actually fulfill their aim, so their actions was purely a calculated one but God being sovereign and can never be outwitted undo all that by doing two things. The first thing God did was to cut down the years of man, at that time man live for so long about a thousand years and because of that the fallen angels could accomplish much, so God cut down the years to an hundred and twenty, the second thing God did which was the last straw that broke the camel’s back, the flood that killed all life.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Genesis 1:7

God decided to put an end to man and beast, now the question in every mind should be why destroying the animals along with man? Remember Eve and the serpent in the Garden of Eden, the devil possessed the serpent and spoke to the woman through the serpent. What actually happened was that the devil is a spiritual being with no physical body for him to be able to carry out his schemes on earth, he needed a physical body and took hold of the body of the serpent to be physically active on earth, and just as the devil did the other fallen angels were doing. The fallen angels are spiritual beings and needed a physical body on earth too, so they took hold of as many bodies as they can find and as it were, the bodies of other creatures (animals and the dead humans) were available. The fallen angels really did much in trying to corrupt the works of God; they corrupted the seed of man, took hold of the animals and caused great chaos on earth. For all this God just had to put a stop to man and animals and start afresh, so He brought about the flood. The flood came for two reasons, the plans of the fallen angels (whenever I mentioned the fallen angels, the devil is included because he is one of them, though we always try to separate him in our thought) was progressing and needed to be stopped, and secondly man has become so corrupt and was getting worse by the day (posing a threat to the plans of God, for the inclination of his heart was evil always Genesis 6:5), and would only take divine intervention for sanity to be restored. God decided to put a stop to man, but His intention was not to permanently do that because He has a plan and man seem to be at the center of it, though His plans was truncated but never to be defeated. The flood eventually came on earth, but the Lord saved a family for Himself and some selected animals in order to start afresh and kick back his plans to life.


Your explanation is BS!

God is plural not singular . Sons of God/watchers as described in the bible are nothing but Extra terrestrial who came from another planet. The book of Genesis itself is not a full story. It was written from the Sumerian tales of evolution of the planet.

If you do understand that a God is by no means singular,your usage of a God will change." The sons of a God" is the way the writer of a Genesis understood it to be in their own time. Satan is a coded/general word for beings who decided to liberate humans and help them discover their in-built intelligence which was against the wish of the a Elohims.

Shemayaza,Lucifer,Prometheus were typical examples of beings who made risky attempts to rescue humans from the other Gods. Shemayaza thought humans Mathematics,Astronomy,how to make tools etc. lucifer( ENKHI )activated the tree of knowledge in humans ,Prometheus taught humans how to make fire. Are these not genuine helpers of humanity? Besides they were seen as outcastes by the other Gods. The bible talks about all kinds of threats made against Satan and false accusations.

Clearly we are talking about wars going on of eons between powerful races of aliens. It is not our duty as humans to take sides but to rather benefit from the knowledge of Mathematics,science and technology given to us by falsely accused beings.
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 7:01am On Dec 09, 2013
ifeness:

Your explanation is BS!

God is plural not singular . Sons of God/watchers as described in the bible are nothing but Extra terrestrial who came from another planet. The book of Genesis itself is not a full story. It was written from the Sumerian tales of evolution of the planet.

If you do understand that a God is by no means singular,your usage of a God will change." The sons of a God" is the way the writer of a Genesis understood it to be in their own time. Satan is a coded/general word for beings who decided to liberate humans and help them discover their in-built intelligence which was against the wish of the a Elohims.

Shemayaza,Lucifer,Prometheus were typical examples of beings who made risky attempts to rescue humans from the other Gods. Shemayaza thought humans Mathematics,Astronomy,how to make tools etc. lucifer( ENKHI )activated the tree of knowledge in humans ,Prometheus taught humans how to make fire. Are these not genuine helpers of humanity? Besides they were seen as outcastes by the other Gods. The bible talks about all kinds of threats made against Satan and false accusations.

Clearly we are talking about wars going on of eons between powerful races of aliens. It is not our duty as humans to take sides but to rather benefit from the knowledge of Mathematics,science and technology given to us by falsely accused beings.





A "confused Atheist" gradually becoming a "Satanist" grin! From frying pan to fire grin smdh~~!

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 11:04am On Dec 09, 2013
doubleDx:


A "confused Atheist" gradually becoming a "Satanist" grin! From frying pan to fire grin smdh~~!

Have you ever cared to know about the original/full story from which the book of Genesis was written? You are an example of why Africans do not grow mentally.
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by macof(m): 1:07pm On Dec 09, 2013
Pastor Olu T:

You are very right about the Greek mythology, so much happened during the early times which is the reason for the present confusion we have around!

Lol u actually agree that Angels/demons can have sex with Humans and have demi-demon offspring grin

Omg christianity has a way of damaging the brain
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by macof(m): 1:20pm On Dec 09, 2013
ifeness:

Your explanation is BS!

God is plural not singular . Sons of God/watchers as described in the bible are nothing but Extra terrestrial who came from another planet. The book of Genesis itself is not a full story. It was written from the Sumerian tales of evolution of the planet.

If you do understand that a God is by no means singular,your usage of a God will change." The sons of a God" is the way the writer of a Genesis understood it to be in their own time. Satan is a coded/general word for beings who decided to liberate humans and help them discover their in-built intelligence which was against the wish of the a Elohims.

Shemayaza,Lucifer,Prometheus were typical examples of beings who made risky attempts to rescue humans from the other Gods. Shemayaza thought humans Mathematics,Astronomy,how to make tools etc. lucifer( ENKHI )activated the tree of knowledge in humans ,Prometheus taught humans how to make fire. Are these not genuine helpers of humanity? Besides they were seen as outcastes by the other Gods. The bible talks about all kinds of threats made against Satan and false accusations.

Clearly we are talking about wars going on of eons between powerful races of aliens. It is not our duty as humans to take sides but to rather benefit from the knowledge of Mathematics,science and technology given to us by falsely accused beings.




I see light in this but as I don't consider the greek myths literal just like Yoruba myth

Was prometheus real?
Couldn't his character be symbolic to the intelligence and knowledge of creating fire?

Was mount Olympus the abode of the Gods(who had human features)

In my philosophy, Gods of Paganic spiritualities are only symbolic, taken from the lives of Great men and venerated as the character of the forces around.

Ps. The Jews don't know any "Lucifer"
there's a big confusion in christianity about that personality.
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by macof(m): 2:01pm On Dec 09, 2013
"Elohim" means children of El

"El" means "God" and usually refers to the supreme God of the canaanite pagan spirituality: El Elyon(God most high)
In the Hebrew language "sons of God" would be transliterated as Bene El
And it would refer to "Elohim"- the Gods of The canaanite region.

Many gods existed in the religion of Canaanland, and they were all refered to singularly or multiple as "Elohim"

El Shaddai(God of mountains) was one of the Elohim whom Abraham was devoted to and the Jews continued his worship as the God of their fathers.
It wasn't until the return from Babylon at around 600BC that Israel proclaimed their God as sole God and ruler of the universe- this is a confusion that was carried into christianity.

Exodus 3:4 "God[Elohim] called him out of the midst of the bush"
Exodus 20:3 "thou shall have no other Gods[Elohim] before me"

Here we see "Elohim" used as reference for both singular and plural.

So back to the topic, "Sons of God" in Genesis 6:2 refers to the "sons of El" aka "Elohim"
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 12:12pm On Dec 10, 2013
twosquare: Actually; having read some hebrewic texts....the beings that fell in Genesis chapter 6 are different from the ones that fell with satan in the beginning.... they are not with satan in his own coup d'etat.They fell after the fall of man....They are refered to as WATCHERS who are appointed to reduce the influence of Satan on mankind and protect them from his evil.But driven by their own will and lust,they too fell....no wonder Jude said they left their “first estate".... neglecting their responsibilities. They were reserved in chains of darkness.... coz those guys even if not put in check will be disastrous (they are for themselves, not for satan)....they taught men evil things and opened them to Knowledge not ought to be known by man.
Reading the Book of Jasher&Book of Enoch will shed more light.

Could be possible but nothing suggest they are different from the bible
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 12:15pm On Dec 10, 2013
ifeness:

Your explanation is BS!

God is plural not singular . Sons of God/watchers as described in the bible are nothing but Extra terrestrial who came from another planet. The book of Genesis itself is not a full story. It was written from the Sumerian tales of evolution of the planet.

If you do understand that a God is by no means singular,your usage of a God will change." The sons of a God" is the way the writer of a Genesis understood it to be in their own time. Satan is a coded/general word for beings who decided to liberate humans and help them discover their in-built intelligence which was against the wish of the a Elohims.

Shemayaza,Lucifer,Prometheus were typical examples of beings who made risky attempts to rescue humans from the other Gods. Shemayaza thought humans Mathematics,Astronomy,how to make tools etc. lucifer( ENKHI )activated the tree of knowledge in humans ,Prometheus taught humans how to make fire. Are these not genuine helpers of humanity? Besides they were seen as outcastes by the other Gods. The bible talks about all kinds of threats made against Satan and false accusations.

Clearly we are talking about wars going on of eons between powerful races of aliens. It is not our duty as humans to take sides but to rather benefit from the knowledge of Mathematics,science and technology given to us by falsely accused beings.




Coming from an atheist trying to explain the bible, what else would you say except what ur unknown master compel u to!
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 12:19pm On Dec 10, 2013
macof:

Lol u actually agree that Angels/demons can have sex with Humans and have demi-demon offspring grin

Omg christianity has a way of damaging the brain

I believed 'cos the bible said so (their offspring were unique; giants Genesis 6:4 read this place especially), which book do u believe?
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 12:21pm On Dec 10, 2013
macof:

"Elohim" means children of El

"El" means "God" and usually refers to the supreme God of the canaanite pagan spirituality: El Elyon(God most high)
In the Hebrew language "sons of God" would be transliterated as Bene El
And it would refer to "Elohim"- the Gods of The canaanite region.

Many gods existed in the religion of Canaanland, and they were all refered to singularly or multiple as "Elohim"

El Shaddai(God of mountains) was one of the Elohim whom Abraham was devoted to and the Jews continued his worship as the God of their fathers.
It wasn't until the return from Babylon at around 600BC that Israel proclaimed their God as sole God and ruler of the universe- this is a confusion that was carried into christianity.

Exodus 3:4 "God[Elohim] called him out of the midst of the bush"
Exodus 20:3 "thou shall have no other Gods[Elohim] before me"

Here we see "Elohim" used as reference for both singular and plural.

So back to the topic, "Sons of God" in Genesis 6:2 refers to the "sons of El" aka "Elohim"

Seriously, what book exactly are u referring to?
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by macof(m): 1:15pm On Dec 10, 2013
Pastor Olu T:

Seriously, what book exactly are u referring to?

Yes am serious.

One more thing, that verse is a little cut show from a bigger story that was told in ancient Canaanland.

It's just a myth and shouldn't be taken literally
Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by Nobody: 1:44pm On Dec 10, 2013
macof:

Yes am serious.

One more thing, that verse is a little cut show from a bigger story that was told in ancient Canaanland.

It's just a myth and shouldn't be taken literally

Human arrogance!!! Everything is myth, myth, myth..... yet your science cannot explain how advanced mathematics was used (with so much precision) in constructing some ancient structures! I bet those pyramids your science & archaeology failed to explain how they were built by ancient cave men are myths too... Smdh!

Our assumptions and arrogance is why we believe life started through evolution and that we are the "only" civilization in the universe! We see everything from religious books written thousands of years before science as mere myths...Smdh!

Take it or leave it, my BIBLE doesn't LIE...Everything written therein is TRUE and NOT some Canaanland mythology/stories!

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Re: The Sons Of God (fallen Angels) by PastorOluT(m): 2:44pm On Dec 10, 2013
macof:

Yes am serious.

One more thing, that verse is a little cut show from a bigger story that was told in ancient Canaanland.

It's just a myth and shouldn't be taken literally

Lol, what in the world do u think I was saying?

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