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FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by bilms(m): 1:17pm On Dec 11, 2013
FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's letter to Margaret Thatcher on Apartheid South Africa


August 1986

Dear Margaret,

After our meeting on Sunday, I write as one committed democrat to another. Yours is an old country with a lengthy democratic tradition; mine a new country undergoing a press of nation-building. But as democrats, we can be frank with each other.

As you know, I came to the EPG (Eminent Persons' Group) mission with reluctance. It was difficult enough for me as an African and especially as a Nigerian to contemplate exchanging pleasantries with those responsible for the institutionalized oppression of so many of my brothers and sisters.

My repugnance was exacerbated by the widely held perception that the EPG was a substitute for action won by you at Nassau for the benefit of P.W. Botha. However, I persuaded myself that whatever the odds, the prize was so great that I should overcome my personal feelings.

Not that I was prepared for what we found. As you know, even Tony Barber - a frequent traveler to South Africa - was appalled by what he was to see in that other South Africa which visitors seldom see. We jointly expressed our shock and dismay in our report.

I have seen extremes of poverty and of oppression in many parts of the world. But South Africa unashamedly moulds both elements into a system which enables the white minority to enjoy a "Dallas" lifestyle at the expense of the great majority forced to endure conditions as degrading as anything I have seen anywhere.

In our discussions, Malcolm Fraser and I tried to convey the true nature of the system and were against cosmetic changes which have merely softened the face of apartheid.

However, such was our discussion that I must ask: Did you even read our report?

I infer from what you said that afternoon that you had not. You concentrated on the trivia of the Government's "reforms" - like the welcome but essentially insignificant repeal of the Mixed Marriages Act - and ignored their implacable opposition to changes in the basic pillars of apartheid.

As we emphasized, to begin to dismantle apartheid, the Population Registration Act and the Group Areas Act must be repealed without being replaced by some measure designed to achieve the same ends under a different guise.

You gave credence to the dangerous notion that the political rights of the dispossessed can be adequately met by what President Botha calls "group rights" at the expense of individual rights and freedoms. Despite all the talk of "power sharing" between different communities, our inescapable conclusion was that this was a cloak for power remaining in white hands, and the essentials of apartheid continuing unchanged.

Nor have you any appreciation of the issue of violence. The apartheid system has an inherent violence which, through forced removals and the creation of barren homelands, has created the fiction of a white land and through the barrel of the gun, denies blacks any form of legitimate political expression.

We are all opposed to violence other than in self-defense. Why should blacks not have a right to defend their own families, homes and freedoms?

Your "moral revulsion" for sanctions struck me as unconvincing. The economic sanctions you so energetically pursued against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina were brushed aside in your determination to withhold their application to South Africa. Yet to many of us there is only one significant difference: the victims in South Africa are black. Is sauce for the Aryan goose not sauce for the Negroid gander?

Your concentration of the economic effectiveness of sanctions is disingenuous if not hypocritical. Sanctions were imposed against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina as political expressions of outrage.

Nor can your opposition be based on any assessment of where the best interests of Britain lie. Your country has considerable trade with South Africa, but this is dwarfed by that enjoyed with the rest of Africa: it cannot be in Britain's interests to encourage them to place their orders elsewhere.

Further, your appearance as an apologist challenges the democratic forces in South Africa to seek help from whatever quarter they can. The longer-term consequences for Britain, the United States and the West could be considerable.

But most of all, I was dismayed by your lack of vision. You offered no action as an alternative to sanctions. You insisted that nothing whatever be done - even though in the final analysis you moved a little. There is no vision of a way ahead; simply a forlorn hope that P.W. Botha would experience a "Road to Damascus" conversion on the road to Soweto. Such hopes are in vain.

Sooner or later, Botha or his successor will be driven to negotiate meaningfully. Sir Geoffrey's visit again confirmed that Botha is not yet under sufficient pressure to do so - despite a dwindling rand, escalating inflation, a declining economy and mounting violence. More pressure must come.

I must tell you that many people around the world view your continued opposition to sanctions as founded on instinct, not logic and as displaying a misguided tribal loyalty and myopic political vision. The consequences of such perceptions are far-reaching for a country which has traditionally claimed the high ground of principle.

Not only does the mental laager of the Boer seem to be mirrored in your own attitudes, but his fatal concessions of too little, too late are paralleled by your actions.

I am glad that the Commonwealth has moved on without you and I know that sooner rather than later, Britain will have to join us. I also know that apartheid will end, and its demise will be the product of a combination of internal and external pressures. The equation is a simple one. The less the external pressure, the greater will be the price to be paid internally.

Those who seek to minimize sanctions and their effect will have the blood of thousands, if not millions, of innocents on their hands and on their consciences. My heart will be heavy but my hands will be clean. Will yours?

(General Olusegun Obasanjo was Head of the Federal Military Government of Nigeria 1976 - 79 when he handed over power to an elected civilian government. He was later to be elected in 1999 as a civilian democratically elected President).

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by veraponpo(m): 1:18pm On Dec 11, 2013
OBJ baba

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by iterator25: 2:26pm On Dec 11, 2013
lipsrsealed
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by icon8: 2:40pm On Dec 11, 2013
Great one there, from a great mind! Struck a chord with me...
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by addey(m): 2:52pm On Dec 11, 2013
Wao, Baba should put this type of pressure on His SON GEJ to deliver what he promised us.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by Nobody: 3:34pm On Dec 11, 2013
so many OBj threads in recent days

wont surprise me if the foolish Thief Obasanjo still wishs to return to Aso Rock
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by vislabraye(m): 3:41pm On Dec 11, 2013
What about the letters he has been receiving from the late Ghani Fawhemi ?
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by oolumide: 4:45pm On Dec 11, 2013
Moderator front page please.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by Nonybb: 4:46pm On Dec 11, 2013
Obasanjo an ingenuous and most decorated thief of our time. Always laborious in convincing his ideas in a glamour of folly. I bet his own copy of the letter was left in her Loyal Majesty's trash can
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by engrfcuksmtin(m): 4:52pm On Dec 11, 2013
OBJ is a man that is suppose to be respected by all and sundry. I wonder how things went wrong with his Image?
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by dridowu: 6:39pm On Dec 11, 2013
GenBuhari: so many OBj threads in recent days

wont surprise me if the foolish Thief Obasanjo still wishs to return to Aso Rock
hater numba 1 welcome on board, u dont have to use dirty words b4 u can proof ur point, anyway 8 him or like him, i will always gbadun Chief Aremu Okikiola Mattew Olusegun. Obasanjo
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by Nobody: 10:08pm On Dec 11, 2013
^
Thief Obasanjo by his corrupt kleptomania has made his very name to become a dirty word.

He is a shameless fool.

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by bilms(m): 10:13pm On Dec 11, 2013
Hum
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by mascot87(m): 6:21am On Dec 12, 2013
GenBuhari: so many OBj threads in recent days

wont surprise me if the foolish Thief Obasanjo still wishs to return to Aso Rock
It is your father that is a thief

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by geeez: 6:28am On Dec 12, 2013
Impressive OBJ
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by bilms(m): 6:39am On Dec 12, 2013
Ok
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by aventura: 6:55am On Dec 12, 2013
You see this is what pains me the most. I remember Nigeria giving scholarships to south Africans, welcoming them during the apartheid. I remember Nigeria refusing to go for common wealth games because of south Africa. If our leaders didn't do anything during the zik and murtala days, they surely did one thing: they fought for south Africa like an elder brother fought for his younger brother.

Today, I watch with dismay as the bloody sycophants around the world pay bloody tributes to Mandela and I look at Nigeria, the number fighter of apartheid been pushed aside in this glorious moments by south Africa. But guess what?

We don't give a fvck about what the world thinks about us, because the general hatred towards Nigerians all over the world is just mere jealousy because Nigerians are a bunch of confident people. Haters can do the oshiomhole style: Go and die.




Long live the only federal republic of Nigeria.



Sai Nigeria.

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by vanguard1(m): 7:13am On Dec 12, 2013
0BJ killed it here, a very nice letter constructed with prudence and diplomacy at the same time. Baba I salute ooo
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by 9icest: 8:10am On Dec 12, 2013
OBJ is ever writing letters to corrupt and non God-fearing scums like GEJ. He wrote IBB one. Anyways, just like Baba said, all the ex generals are getting worried about GEJ's Abacha style of government. We all remembered what happened to Sanni Jonathan.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by ibullem(m): 8:13am On Dec 12, 2013
That was quite a masterpiece,

OBJ really struck some chords there.

South Africa’s apartheid regime is remembered as one of the worst crimes against humanity of the 20th century. America & Britain fully supported it.

The West is eager to paint Mandela as a saint.

What they are actually saying is that TO FORGIVE WHITE VIOLATIONS IS SAINTLY.

Nigeria played the Big Brother Role during apartheid, yet countries like Brazil and India spoke, & we didn't have an opportunity to say even 'Hi'.

God dey sha
God Bless Nigeria.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by biafranqueen: 8:24am On Dec 12, 2013
But what about the Nigerian Elite enjoying a "Dallas Lifestyle" off of the national treasure as we speak, even now that we have an emerging middle class things are better then 1986 when IBB, his classmate and homie from military school was in power. Did he write such letter to that his guy IBB Anyway, the letter is classic I must admit.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by biafranqueen: 8:27am On Dec 12, 2013
aventura: You see this is what pains me the most. I remember Nigeria giving scholarships to south Africans, welcoming them during the apartheid. I remember Nigeria refusing to go for common wealth games because of south Africa. If our leaders didn't do anything during the zik and murtala days, they surely did one thing: they fought for south Africa like an elder brother fought for his younger brother.

Today, I watch with dismay as the bloody sycophants around the world pay bloody tributes to Mandela and I look at Nigeria, the number fighter of apartheid been pushed aside in this glorious moments by south Africa. But guess what?

We don't give a fvck about what the world thinks about us, because the general hatred towards Nigerians all over the world is just mere jealousy because Nigerians are a bunch of confident people. Haters can do the oshiomhole style: Go and die.




Long live the only federal republic of Nigeria.



Sai Nigeria.
Yes Nigerians did fight for SA and now they are treating our citizens like trash cry
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by PassingShot(m): 8:29am On Dec 12, 2013
So this man is this erudite! But how can a man be a saint and a devil at the same time?
I don't like OBJ a bit but this peice is a masterpiece.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by biafranqueen: 8:30am On Dec 12, 2013
9icest: OBJ is ever writing letters to corrupt and non God-fearing scums like GEJ. He wrote IBB one. Anyways, just like Baba said, all the ex generals are getting worried about GEJ's Abacha style of government. We all remembered what happened to Sanni Jonathan.
Really he wrote one to IBB ? I would like to see it?
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by OPCNAIRALAND: 8:34am On Dec 12, 2013
ibullem: That was quite a masterpiece,

OBJ really struck some chords there.

South Africa’s apartheid regime is remembered as one of the worst crimes against humanity of the 20th century. America & Britain fully supported it.

The West is eager to paint Mandela as a saint.

What they are actually saying is that TO FORGIVE WHITE VIOLATIONS IS SAINTLY.

Nigeria played the Big Brother Role during apartheid, yet countries like Brazil and India spoke, & we didn't have an opportunity to say even 'Hi'.

God dey sha
God Bless Nigeria.

Please, the struggle and fight to end apartheid in South Africa was a moral obligation on mankind. Nigeria played its role. They do not owe us any thank you or special recognition.

Besides, if they gave us the microphone to speak, who would make the speech? This was a global telecast. You want GEJ to stand there and do further damage to our already sunk global image?
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by PassingShot(m): 9:10am On Dec 12, 2013
OPC.NAIRALAND:


Please, the struggle and fight to end apartheid in South Africa was a moral obligation on mankind. Nigeria played its role. They do not owe us any thank you or special recognition.

Besides, if they gave us the microphone to speak, who would make the speech? This was a global telecast. You want GEJ to stand there and do further damage to our already sunk global image?

LWKMD! grin grin grin
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by Nobody: 11:33am On Dec 12, 2013
[size=58pt]Thief Obasanjo is the biggest looter Africa has ever known[/size]

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Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by Nobody: 11:35am On Dec 12, 2013
You must be a thief also, otherwise why are you defending a foolish criminal and thief such as Thief Obasanjo?
mascot87:
It is your father that is a thief
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by bilms(m): 2:09pm On Dec 12, 2013
GenBuhari, be mindful of what you write here...
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by ebucha: 2:27pm On Dec 12, 2013
Baba na Baba finally finally
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by omonla555: 2:32pm On Dec 12, 2013
Igbo people dont like Obasanjo because of his accomplishments. If not for OBJ, the whole SE would have been wiped out during the Biafran war.
Re: FOR THE RECORDS : Obasanjo's Letter To Margaret Thatcher On Apartheid South Afri by omonla555: 2:33pm On Dec 12, 2013
GenBuhari: [size=58pt]Thief Obasanjo is the biggest looter Africa has ever known[/size]

How about oga Jonathan?

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