Pictures say a thousand words though not many would get but the few that do would smile.

I wish it is true. Even coordinates and object positions in the game world are maths

Hehehe. The Irony.

I refused to hire back a decent programmer after a vacation because he refused to solve a Maths problem. I think Maths is very important.

Seun: I refused to hire back a decent programmer after a vacation because he refused to solve a Maths problem. I think Maths is very important.

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I no blame the guy sha. Me, I can't do a math problem in public, not because I don't know it, but because I've had really terrible experiences with almost every math teacher in my life (one of whom was my dad). I don't fear maths, I fear failing it and getting flogged. I know that can't happen now, but still...

Anyone thinking maths is important, obviously hasn't tried to build a 3D game or worked with a graphics library and has probably been building CRUD apps all his life. I am very happy i started Game Development early because i was about towing the line of thinking it was all about code. So now i really take maths seriously at school.

SimonAndal:
I used to think like this back in JS3. Lol. But seriously is there anything in CS that doesn't require maths? I wanna major in cryptography and the kind of maths I'm seeing no be beans at all. Advice, anyone?

What kind of maths? In Games it is Vectors, Matrix, Quaternions, Euler angles, interpolation, calculus etc and a whole lot of Physics especially in mechanics.

good to know.

Maths is lovely. Learn maths first and every other thing follows.

Javanian:
What kind of maths? In Games it is Vectors, Matrix, Quaternions, Euler angles, interpolation, calculus etc and a whole lot of Physics especially in mechanics.

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Let's just say they scare me and leave it at that. Satoshi is a genius-wizard!!! Nay, Satoshi is a God!

Seun: I refused to hire back a decent programmer after a vacation because he refused to solve a Maths problem. I think Maths is very important.

After all your hiring, no quotes counter on your website.

nutty_hnic: After all your hiring, no quotes counter on your website.

Well, we have many other things that are far more important, and we will also get that feature at the right time, if it's worth it.

nutty_hnic:

After all your highering, no quotes counter on your website.

Bros na 'Hiring ' not 'Highering'... Mr Sabi pass

Dhelake: Bros na 'Hiring ' not 'Highering'... Mr Sabi pass

used to hate maths, buy I'm beginning to love it, only the abstract ( algebra, real analysis) mathematics still scares me.

Seun: Well, we have many other things that are far more important, and we will also get that feature at the right time, if it's worth it.

We ought to know when we are quoted, it drives the conversation.
As such we can go back to older threads, cos there are tonnes of them that we get quoted and we dont get to see them

SimonAndal:
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I no blame the guy sha. Me, I can't do a math problem in public, not because I don't know it, but because I've had really terrible experiences with almost every math teacher in my life (one of whom was my dad). I don't fear maths, I fear failing it and getting flogged. I know that can't happen now, but still...

I know I've seen this same exact post somewhere...today.

masonkz:

I know I've seen this same exact post somewhere...today.

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Seriously? Somebody stole my life story? Lol!

SimonAndal:
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Seriously? Somebody stole my life story? Lol!

by you!!!

nutty_hnic:

We ought to know when we are quoted, it drives the conversation.
As such we can go back to older threads, cos there are tonnes of them that we get quoted and we dont get to see them

use the local search to know when u're quoted. that 'll suffice for nau

as per d topic: cs foundation is deep-rooted in maths. i'd encourage anyone not to run-away from maths even IF he's just a UI designer..!!

nutty_hnic:

We ought to know when we are quoted, it drives the conversation.
As such we can go back to older threads, cos there are tonnes of them that we get quoted and we dont get to see them

Yeah.. I buy your argument

nutty_hnic:

We ought to know when we are quoted, it drives the conversation.
As such we can go back to older threads, cos there are tonnes of them that we get quoted and we dont get to see them

Yeah.. Its really needed

seun, this should be on the ffront page from time to time

^^ That we need maths?

From time_to_time, na reminder

It's not Maths it is mathematics, if you can not get your 2*2 right then it's not bad repeating primary 1

Most developers dont need higher maths.
How much math do web devs, need?
How much math do 99.9% of business software need?
To create a web server,erp system, web browser, accountg,legal,cybercafe ,school ,supermarket,text editor etc software how much math dyu need?
To write nairaland how much math is needed?
How much math is needed for compilers and parsers? Many hav been written without maths just plain old common sense and arithmetcs(primary/high school math).

It is all relatve.
For d most case math-heavy software is developed by major software corporation to make application developers use even less math for their work e.g
compilers, mathlab,maple (for math),autocad (CAD) software, game egines (Unity,Unreal), windowg systems, (Os dependent), sorting (as libraries in language).

asalimpo: Most developers dont need higher maths.
How much math do web devs, need?
How much math do 99.9% of business software need?
To create a web server,erp system, web browser, accountg,legal,cybercafe ,school ,supermarket,text editor etc software how much math dyu need?
To write nairaland how much math is needed?
How much math is needed for compilers and parsers? Many hav been written without maths just plain old common sense and arithmetcs(primary/high school math).

It is all relatve.
For d most case math-heavy software is developed by major software corporation to make application developers use even less math for their work e.g
compilers, mathlab,maple (for math),autocad (CAD) software, game egines (Unity,Unreal), windowg systems, (Os dependent), sorting (as libraries in language).

+1

asalimpo: Most developers dont need higher maths.
How much math do web devs, need?
How much math do 99.9% of business software need?
To create a web server,erp system, web browser, accountg,legal,cybercafe ,school ,supermarket,text editor etc software how much math dyu need?
To write nairaland how much math is needed?
How much math is needed for compilers and parsers? Many hav been written without maths just plain old common sense and arithmetcs(primary/high school math).

It is all relatve.
For d most case math-heavy software is developed by major software corporation to make application developers use even less math for their work e.g
compilers, mathlab,maple (for math),autocad (CAD) software, game egines (Unity,Unreal), windowg systems, (Os dependent), sorting (as libraries in language).

@emboldened By Programmers who are mere mortals.

Okay, let me put it this way, Mathematics is VERY important to Computer scientist (which is actually a branch of Applied Mathematics). As you rightly said, it is all relative. If you are developing a business application (web, mobile, enterprise or desktop) you might not be using a lot of maths, common OR/AND/NOT/IF/ELSE logic might do but when it comes to Operation Research, Formal Languages and Automata theory, Network and Graph theory, Simulation and Probability Models in OR... and so on which are all aspects of computer science the application of various Mathematics concepts cannot be overemphasized.

EDIT: Just saw where you mentioned game engines, lol, you should try and take a look at one them, you might better understand what i am saying...

Javanian:

@emboldened By Programmers who are mere mortals.

Okay, let me put it this way, Mathematics is VERY important to Computer scientist (which is actually a branch of Applied Mathematics). As you rightly said, it is all relative. If you are developing a business application (web, mobile, enterprise or desktop) you might not be using a lot of maths, common OR/AND/NOT/IF/ELSE logic might do but when it comes to Operation Research, Formal Languages and Automata theory, Network and Graph theory, Simulation and Probability Models in OR... and so on which are all aspects of computer science the application of various Mathematics concepts cannot be overemphasized.

EDIT: Just saw where you mentioned game engines, lol, you should try and take a look at one them, you might better understand what i am saying...

which is exactly wat i'm sayg.
More and more software is written to abstract more and more of d complexity away from from d average developer so tht the everyday dev, is more or less a component assembler.
This backbone/foundation software is where all the hard math is. Except ur writg domain specifc software and dnt know how to google for plugins ,framewrks,or hate readg source codes api's the heavy math has been taken care of-most of d time.

Average software dnt need math no more. Business software needs zero math. Just common sense aka logc.

you wanna store data - there are free sql and no-sql databases out there. With corporations hiring armies of born-to-code humanoids to wrk on them.
You want write ur own? Feel free but it will not b as feature rich and will take a slice of ya life to do so.

Operatg systems? Fogetaboudit
compilers?
Audiocodecs ?
Symbolic manipulators? - matlab, mathematica, octave,maple,etc abound

math is useful and good to know but if ur wrk dnt require it,you may just b filling ur garage with byutfl junk?
Tht microfinance bankg software , supermarket software,school manager, web page scraper, dont care for calculus , discrete math or such.
So y wud a smart dev waste his time learng stuff he'll never use more thn twce in a 30 year+ career?
The smart dev shud b adept at learng new material on a need-to-use basis. Instead of fill his head with high soundg,but useless (to his career/job) concepts.

asalimpo:

which is exactly wat i'm sayg.
More and more software is written to abstract more and more of d complexity away from from d average developer so tht the everyday dev, is more or less a component assembler.
This backbone/foundation software is where all the hard math is. Except ur writg domain specifc software and dnt know how to google for plugins ,framewrks,or hate readg source codes api's the heavy math has been taken care of-most of d time.

Average software dnt need math no more. Business software needs zero math. Just common sense aka logc.

you wanna store data - there are free sql and no-sql databases out there. With corporations hiring armies of born-to-code humanoids to wrk on them.
You want write ur own? Feel free but it will not b as feature rich and will take a slice of ya life to do so.

Operatg systems? Fogetaboudit
compilers?
Audiocodecs ?
Symbolic manipulators? - matlab, mathematica, octave,maple,etc abound

math is useful and good to know but if ur wrk dnt require it,you may just b filling ur garage with byutfl junk?
Tht microfinance bankg software , supermarket software,school manager, web page scraper, dont care for calculus , discrete math or such.
So y wud a smart dev waste his time learng stuff he'll never use more thn twce in a 30 year+ career?
The smart dev shud b adept at learng new material on a need-to-use basis. Instead of fill his head with high soundg,but useless (to his career/job) concepts.

Apparently, going on with this argument is like taking a journey to a bottomless pit, we would go on and on with no result because we are talking from two entirely different standpoints. You, a developer who believes writing 'backbone/foundation' softwares where 'all the hard maths' is done isn't for mere mortals. You are okay creating 'Average software' that don't need maths, comfortable googling, downloading and using 'frameworks and plugins' created by 'born-to-code' humanoids. and me talking from the standpoint of a computer science major where we are taught to create 'backbone/foundation' softwares where application of certain aspects of maths are inevitable. How can i understand/implement Network and Graph theory without understanding discrete mathematics and numerical analysis? So you are free to stay in your comfort zone and use whatever works for you

matlab dey killll me 4 here

asalimpo:

which is exactly wat i'm sayg.
More and more software is written to abstract more and more of d complexity away from from d average developer so tht the everyday dev, is more or less a component assembler.
This backbone/foundation software is where all the hard math is. Except ur writg domain specifc software and dnt know how to google for plugins ,framewrks,or hate readg source codes api's the heavy math has been taken care of-most of d time.

Average software dnt need math no more. Business software needs zero math. Just common sense aka logc.

you wanna store data - there are free sql and no-sql databases out there. With corporations hiring armies of born-to-code humanoids to wrk on them.
You want write ur own? Feel free but it will not b as feature rich and will take a slice of ya life to do so.

Operatg systems? Fogetaboudit
compilers?
Audiocodecs ?
Symbolic manipulators? - matlab, mathematica, octave,maple,etc abound

math is useful and good to know but if ur wrk dnt require it,you may just b filling ur garage with byutfl junk?
Tht microfinance bankg software , supermarket software,school manager, web page scraper, dont care for calculus , discrete math or such.
So y wud a smart dev waste his time learng stuff he'll never use more thn twce in a 30 year+ career?
The smart dev shud b adept at learng new material on a need-to-use basis. Instead of fill his head with high soundg,but useless (to his career/job) concepts.