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What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by oluwashaddow(m): 12:12pm On Jan 05, 2014
What does this verse mean, "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN SUFFERETH VIOLENCE, and the violent take it by force."? (Matthew 11:12).
please I need your view or opinion
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by Queendo(f): 12:27pm On Jan 05, 2014
It means dt b4 john d prophets and d laws were followed. But from d time of John there was a turn around in d message preached and it takes ppl who are radical for God to accept it and key into it.
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by okenwa(m): 12:33pm On Jan 05, 2014
oluwashaddow: What does this verse mean, "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN SUFFERETH VIOLENCE, and the violent take it by force."? (Matthew 11:12).
please I need your view or opinion

The idea here is that before John the Baptist, the kingdom could be viewed in the light of prophesy...but now it was preached, men pressing into it with ardor resembling violence or desperation, they appear as if they would seize it by force...expressing the earnestness men must have to get rid of sin.

...until John's ministry, not its end. Pls link verse 13 to it. ( culled from Dakes annotated bible)
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My opinion here is that believers are not to be physically violent in following/seeking Gods kingdom but to press forward the message of the kingdom beyond prophesy and preaching, but by deeds of goodwill. Amen
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by unmask: 12:55pm On Jan 05, 2014
^^^ more confusing
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by okenwa(m): 1:13pm On Jan 05, 2014
^^^^ not so bro! read it again
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by okenwa(m): 1:18pm On Jan 05, 2014
Not so bro
Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by femi4: 1:44pm On Jan 05, 2014
The phrase, “…the kingdom of heaven
suffers violence,” refers to how religious
men have used positions of authority to
bully their way into control of the
religious institution of Christ’s time, which
was the Jewish synagogue, but more
particular, the Jewish temple with its
wealth, prestige and status as a political
establishment.

The original Greek word biázœ (NT: 971)
in Matthew 11:12 is translated as suffers
violence; biázœ is a compound word
originating from a root bías (NT: 970),
meaning strength. Biázœ means literally
to overpower by rushing forcefully into.

In Matthew 11:12 biázetai is used in the
present indicative passive but also used
with middle voice (for self-interests);
present indicative affirms something that
is occurring while the speaker (Jesus) is
making his statement; passive voice
shows the subject (the kingdom of God)
as receiving the action (i.e. forceful
violence) of the verb; the middle voice
indicates the subject as acting in some
way upon himself or concerning himself
(i.e. the violent force their way into the
kingdom for their own interests not
God’s).

Men of violence, honoring the
Law and the Prophets, have
been seeking to take the
kingdom by force and violence
until now; but now, since John,
the good news of the non
violent kingdom is preached
and everyone who enters it
suffers violence.

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Re: What Those This Verse Mean `matthew 11:12" by oluwashaddow(m): 2:27pm On Jan 05, 2014
femi4: The phrase, “…the kingdom of heaven
suffers violence,” refers to how religious
men have used positions of authority to
bully their way into control of the
religious institution of Christ’s time, which
was the Jewish synagogue, but more
particular, the Jewish temple with its
wealth, prestige and status as a political
establishment.

The original Greek word biázœ (NT: 971)
in Matthew 11:12 is translated as suffers
violence; biázœ is a compound word
originating from a root bías (NT: 970),
meaning strength. Biázœ means literally
to overpower by rushing forcefully into.

In Matthew 11:12 biázetai is used in the
present indicative passive but also used
with middle voice (for self-interests);
present indicative affirms something that
is occurring while the speaker (Jesus) is
making his statement; passive voice
shows the subject (the kingdom of God)
as receiving the action (i.e. forceful
violence) of the verb; the middle voice
indicates the subject as acting in some
way upon himself or concerning himself
(i.e. the violent force their way into the
kingdom for their own interests not
God’s).

Men of violence, honoring the
Law and the Prophets, have
been seeking to take the
kingdom by force and violence
until now; but now, since John,
the good news of the non
violent kingdom is preached
and everyone who enters it
suffers violence.
tanx

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