Kay17:


Salvation is like a rescue, a rescue from danger which is sin. So is it possible for there to be a salvation without the danger of sin? I don't think so.

There would have been no need for salvation if only right choices could be made but as it is everyone still makes mistakes.

LordReed:


There would have been no need for salvation if only right choices could be made but as it is everyone still makes mistakes.

So that takes us back to sin.

Kay17:


So that takes us back to sin.

Not really. You position is take away sin and Christianity collapses but I am trying to show you that first that Jesus was more than about sin and that sin is more than about law (in the context of salvation that is).

Outside salvation, what else was Jesus in our lives?

Kay17:
Outside salvation, what else was Jesus in our lives?

The "gateway" to God's Kingdom.