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Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by spikedcylinder: 5:10pm On Aug 11, 2008
Seun:

I don't think being black is enough protection. What about your foreign accent?

Yes, there's that too but I dont think it would be as glaring as if the colour of his skin is white. Besides, the accent is not enough to go off on these days, anyone can fake it well. Seeing as he's not coming with his wife and kid(s), they(!) might just think he's some loner.
Better for him, I think.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by kamsik(m): 5:14pm On Aug 11, 2008
this MAN you dont have anything to offer okay, this your post is just shit okay.

we want idea minded people to talk and share mind together for the greater Nigeria.

thanks
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by begood1: 5:14pm On Aug 11, 2008
hello anivara,
I would strongly advise you to take that job offer.
despite all these kidnapping here and there in the N.Delta, could you believe that our company have almost 30-50 expatriates in the Niger-Delta?
This is due the a new expat security policy which was just implemented for expat.
You can send me a mail to get part of these polciy, believe me nothing will happen to u if u keep to the rules.
email is jarret4all@yahoo.com

takia
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Akan(m): 5:18pm On Aug 11, 2008
@kiwi992

try and find out the state u come from wink

though i do not disagree with ur point
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 5:25pm On Aug 11, 2008
@ Unit, - Thanks for the heads up, but i don't think I have 'advertised' myself, neither have I included in this post any personal information about myself, my current position or the proposed position in Nigeria.

I have merely stated the facts to solicit an honest and unbiased opinion which I have now received. All the information about Niger-Delta jobs and the pay scale is already in the public domain, you just need to know where to look.

Besides there are people earning a lot more money than £900 a day.   undecided
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 5:28pm On Aug 11, 2008
@ Akan grin

You make it sound like i'm some charity case cheesy

Cross River State, Abi LGA,
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by syke80(f): 5:30pm On Aug 11, 2008
men! that`s a pretty good offer, i`ll say go 4 it, after all, as they say"all die na die" be it  accidental or peaceful. so u will die when u are meant to ok.nothing to worry about. take the job and as the guys have said, be prepared @ all times(keep your wife and kid well provided for), because death can come @ anytime. My advice is maintain a low profile  when you arrive Niger Delta so u can blend in easily. cheers
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 5:31pm On Aug 11, 2008
@kamsik

Why so a angry

Pray tell what is so sh!t about my post,
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Truequest(m): 5:40pm On Aug 11, 2008
Be wary of those guys asking you to send them mails; scammers are everywhere be warned. But for Niger delta I will say go it is your father land
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by slyk2(m): 5:42pm On Aug 11, 2008
the fear of millitants is the begining of wisdom
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by emmydee(m): 5:43pm On Aug 11, 2008
no comment. just passing c ya.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by cliveland: 5:49pm On Aug 11, 2008
my broda, its really tite, i'll suggets u really put alot in perspective, aside d pay, ur family really comes 1st, not because dy r not going with u but because dy r a part of u. plsssssss consider i still ve friends there who live n work there but not in d oil industry, n dy live in absolute fear, so if u have anoda choice pls think properly no sentiments .
i live n work in lagos, i dread going to ph my friend go married fear no let go.
take care
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by landis(m): 5:51pm On Aug 11, 2008
is that £900 per day for 30days or 24days?

how long is the contract?

what taxes are you paying?

what is your motivation? money or peace of mind?

what is package for your family if you are killed?

which family get what?

Answer to above, will guide, if truly you are serious not just a trol
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by tpia: 6:06pm On Aug 11, 2008
spikedcylinder:



And, YES! The ladies would be on to you, unless you look like an orangootan. . . which doesnt even matter much these days anyway. . . with your $1800/day and all. smiley

it doesnt matter oh. smiley

Even if he has two physical horns growing out of his head- most ladies would rather look at the money instead of noticing the horns. cheesy wink

they even fit say horns/orangutans are sexy. wink

$1800 a day can work wonders in most parts of the world, talkless Nigeria. That's $54000 a month, minus some minimal taxes. Anyone making that kind of money per day, in the US, for example, can be trailed by the IRS if he/she doesnt pay their required minimum 24 to 40% tax.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Sentra: 6:31pm On Aug 11, 2008
@ Anivara
I am also into the oil and gas biz but unlike u I dont own may own coy.However,I am considering taking such offers I have received in the past.I have been talking to some friends that hail from Niger Delta area Balyesa etc. about this prospect. The thing is that we have to settle and pay for protection from the very people that does all that shit,
I am still undecided.
Shoot me a mail and I will be able o give u more info sentra6410@aol.com
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by JUNE12(m): 7:59pm On Aug 11, 2008
I have 12 years of experience in the ND.
All is not well within the ND, but you can still come in and do your work and go safely. No one is actually 100% safe anywhere. Iraq is less safe than ND with profeesional expat security services providing security.
Unfortunately the oil industry local content development has not favoured the people on the ground.
Let me know where you are going to do the work and the compnay involved and the nature of the work( this will determine your exposure level) most trips will be by helicopter and there is no incidence of chopper jacking yet.
The type of job will greatly determine the exposure level.
Forget your accent, a naija man is a Naija man
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 9:17pm On Aug 11, 2008
@ Landis
landis:

is that £900 per day for 30days or 24days?

how long is the contract?

what taxes are you paying?

what is your motivation? money or peace of mind?

what is package for your family if you are killed?

which family get what?

Answer to above, will guide, if truly you are serious not just a trol

Its £900 a day Monday to Friday, weekend working is a fixed rotation every other week at the same rate.

Its a 1 year.

Taxes will be paid in the UK via a Ltd coproration tax, personal tax is between me and HMRC.

My motivation, good question , still thinking about it.

I have a private arrangement to look after the family
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by jideosik(m): 1:09am On Aug 12, 2008
Good talk kiwi992. How many local folks with college degrees can you hire with 900 pounds per day? How many Niger Delta indigenes make 900 pounds per day? Are there unemployed Nigerians with similar skills who can do this work—even for half of the pay, so that they can earn a decent living? The issue here is that only a few Nigerians are benefiting from the resources of the land, and 900 pounds a day is atrocious in a country where many of the youth are without employment. Unfortunately, there is continual derelict leadership and institutional rot in Nigeria. I have visited the Niger Delta and it is a shame the level of neglect and poverty on the ground. My advice to this gentleman is to skip the work—do not become a Niger Delta statistics. It is also a shame that many of the posters here do not even have the consciousness of what is at stake in the Niger Delta. When you have the kind of injustice and mindless leadership going on in Nigeria, MEND is inevitable. I am not from the Niger Delta. I am a concerned Nigerian.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 7:43am On Aug 12, 2008
jideosik:

Good talk kiwi992. How many local folks with college degrees can you hire with 900 pounds per day? How many Niger Delta indigenes make 900 pounds per day? Are there unemployed Nigerians with similar skills who can do this work—even for half of the pay, so that they can earn a decent living? The issue here is that only a few Nigerians are benefiting from the resources of the land, and 900 pounds a day is atrocious in a country where many of the youth are without employment. Unfortunately, there is continual derelict leadership and institutional rot in Nigeria. I have visited the Niger Delta and it is a shame the level of neglect and poverty on the ground. My advice to this gentleman is to skip the work—do not become a Niger Delta statistics. It is also a shame that many of the posters here do not even have the consciousness of what is at stake in the Niger Delta. When you have the kind of injustice and mindless leadership going on in Nigeria, MEND is inevitable. I am not from the Niger Delta. I am a concerned Nigerian.

@ Jideosik

And there in lies the problem, it would be all to easy to take the money and run, but at what price??
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by manoy(m): 10:26am On Aug 12, 2008
OMG! Cool money grin 900 pounds/day,that is prodigous oh.I have been thinking about my own offer of 2700 pounds/month in one naija company(though based in lagos oh with free accomodation and official car in lekki). Do the risk analysis,if it is worth the diving abeg shoooot.

shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Ebonyj(f): 10:29am On Aug 12, 2008
Anivara,

I have the best suggestions, I think you should take the job, get me to go and do it and pay me 500 a day, how about that? The only thing is you would need to give me a weeks training on what the job entails as I have never worked in a Oil company  and I don't know jack about it!

Just joking, take the job I am a contractor and seriously looking for a role in Naija ( 3 months contract sha) as I have some stuffs to do in Naija but can't afford  to loose any income by not working.
I have a white colleague who work in PH for 18months with his wife and he came back to the Uk without any wahala although he said he would never go back to Nigeria.
So If a white man can survive it for 18months I too you can too.
But as in all things seek God's guidance. Good luck!
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by kiwi992(m): 12:03pm On Aug 12, 2008
Jideosik,


Thank you.  

I'm glad that someone else can see my point and put selfishness and greed aside by being able to relate to the sufferings of the peoples of the Niger Delta.

Just to make the point clear to everyone working in the oil installations in the Niger Delta.  Please do not make the mistake of thinking that your lives are safe merely because of the private militia being operated by the cowboy oil companies.

Be rest-assured that the people of the Niger Delta know every nook and corner of that part of Nigeria - the rivers, creeks, streams and so on.  No-one should have the false illusion that his or her life would be safe working in the oil installations because it wouldn't. 

The peoples of the Niger Delta are very angry because they have been down-trodden over the decades.  Such injustices can never be allowed to carry on forever.  Never!  No right-minded person would allow such blatant oppression to carry on, the way that they have been, for decades and decades.  People being robbed of their natural resources, having no fair share in it, yet more and more states are being created in Nigeria as a result of the oil wealth that emanates from the Niger Delta.   

If anyone thinks that the private militia would protect them, then the one is living in a cloud cuckoo land and needs to have their heads examined.  You can, but only push someone up to a point and the one would definitely fight back, like a wounded lion, despite the opponent's might and size.  Examples abound all over the world.    

Here's a bit of history for everyone:  

During the Nigerian civil war, the rebel Biafrans evacuated the people of Bakana from their town.  Rebel soldiers then occupied it, making it a garrison town.  The island of Bakana is about five nautical miles from Port Harcourt.

Needless to say, hundreds of Bakana citizens lost their lives as a result of being dispersed to the Ibo hinterland.  Bakana became a ghost town occupied by the rebels who didn't have a clue about the topology of the Niger Delta, let alone, know how to swim in those massive rivers.

The rebels wanted to teach us a 'lesson' for supporting the Federal Government, so, occupied the town in the hope that they would, one day, start producing oil in order to become self-sufficient, having 'seceded' from Nigeria.  Little did they know that the rivers and creeks belonged to us, or, maybe, they conveniently forgot about it.

My people knew how to navigate their way around the Niger Delta.  The end result being that they paddled their way through the creeks, got to Lagos and steered Major General Adekunle and his Third Marine Commandoes to the New Calabar River in Bakana, from where a sustained attack was mounted from behind enemy lines.  Soon, Bakana fell, followed by other Rivers towns and villages, then Port Harcourt, Aba and so on.  Eventually, the war came to an end.

Make what you like of this real-life scenario and never under-estimate the peoples of the Niger Delta.  Give us our fair share of the oil wealth that comes from our land that's just what my people are asking for.  Is that too much to ask?

No violence, no kidnappings, no war or threats of secession.  Just play fair with the peoples of the Niger Delta and everything would be fine.  Afterall, we are all Nigerians, aren't we?

A word is enough for the wise.




kiwi992.


NB:

All those Europeans working in the Niger Delta, why don't you buggers jack your jobs and come back to your rundown cities and see how long you would survive?  Your UK jobs are all being eroded.  The country is in a mess - with the credit crunch.  You'll never survive one day over here.  Your pubs are getting closed down so you'll never be able to socialise and plot to rob the Niger Delta of its oil.  Shame on you bloody pigs!  Wait until I see you in the Niger Delta and I'll wring your necks for the sufferings that you have brought unto my people.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by carnal: 12:33pm On Aug 12, 2008
@kiwi992, i read your opinion and quite disagree with the fact the europeans are responsible for woes in the 9jadelta, i want to state here that our govt,bad leaders in the 9jadelta are the once responsible for our problems,our leaders sold our souls,yes the oil companies has cheated us over the years before now but with the assistance of our govt and leaders. And right now we want out share and they must give us but i also want to mention here that without peace there can never being concrete development in the 9jadelta
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by ogb5(m): 12:48pm On Aug 12, 2008
Take it on these conditions.
If you are black you don't have a problem.
forget british accent, if you can then you are in good shape.
3. Don't drive rough with your mouth. Just face your job, mind your business and don't brag about where you have been.

With these you can work in The delta anytime.

The most important, remember to be black in colour.
and don't give impression that you have easy money
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 1:42pm On Aug 12, 2008
@ kiwi992,

You raise a lot of good points but you seem to be directing all you anger at the operators, what about the mis-management of Nigeria. The millions and billions that have been stolen, skimmed, 419ed, exported,  call it what you like, away by government officials that claim to have the 'people' in mind.

You talk about people of the Niger Delta being down trodden for years, but who sells the oil blocks to the likes of Shell, Total,  BP etc ,  Who invites tenders from rouge umbrella companies owned by bent Nigerian's who wouldn't know an oil well from a bore hole. Where is NNPC in all of this Why haven't NNPC got a well established exploration division?? or EPIC contracts division. Why do they still rely on the likes of the big 3 to operate 25 year old fields, Why can't NNPC go directly to the like of Saipem, Oceaneering, Technip, Cameron, Aker, Vetco etc and deal with them on a one to one basis,  Look at what happening in Egypt, Burullus (their version of NNPC) runs everything, from contract award to commissioning of wells. The ex-pats are only partners,  nothing more. Look at what happening in Angola, Sonangol the same thing, they run the show,  then it comes to NNPC and its as if all reason is lost,  sold to the highest bidder,

I'm not saying that the Niger Delta haven't been wronged, I think they have been and I agree enough is enough,  but lets not just point the fingers at the people we invited to come in to Nigeria, lets look at our own actions and learn from them. You ask people to play fair, how does kidnapping a 6 year old holding, her at gun point  and demanding money from her father (who is Nigerian), help the 'cause' How does oil piracy help the 'cause'? How does killing the MD of an indigenous servicing contracting company bring about change??

There is a time and place for action, rather than try and deal with the symptoms, lets get to the root of the problem. Why don't we get our act together and shake up the oil industry,  what I'm talking about is an internal radical shift in Nigeria's approach to oil, oil reserves, block allocation, tendering processes, contract award and revenue allocation. ,   look at whats happening in the banking sector,  that itself shows you that a revolution in the way of thinking is required.

This is way too long already but there is more !!!

holla back !!
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by idupaul: 1:45pm On Aug 12, 2008
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Anivara: 2:00pm On Aug 12, 2008
@ kiwi992

Finally, I just have to add this point, ,  in my opinion trying to say that those ex-pats working in Nigeria's Niger-Delta 'wont survive' if they return to their own country is non-starter.

The credit crunch is global, yet multi billion doller deals are still being done, the UK manufacturing industry has been in decline for the last 20 years, but with the current economic climate the pound has weakened, meaning other UK exports are more affordable keeping the economy ticking over,  (China and Indian economies have slowed) but are still growing ,  and where do they get the fuel for growth Europe !

So by all means plan to wring their necks for the sufferings they have brought unto your people but rest assured the sun will still rise in the UK and 'our people' will still line up at their embassy trying to get visas to 'check out'

peace !
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by Ebonyj(f): 2:10pm On Aug 12, 2008
@Kiwi992,

Why all the hatred, I bet if you were offered the same job you would not think twice before accepting it!
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by carnal: 2:26pm On Aug 12, 2008
@ebonyi, i don't think you understand what kiwi992 was talking about,he was not hating anything or anybody,he never said that if he was offered the opportunity he won't accept it,he is only saying that our leaders,goverment and those fighting the 9jadelta struggle have all not been fair and that they have failed us,he cited two major instances in egypt and angola that am very well aware of too (i work in an oil company in the 9jadelta) and agree completely with him, i have said it over and over again,the oil companies in conjunction with our elders,leaders and assistance of some of our youths has failed us and that's the bottom line.Now we are wiser and know our rights and that happen to be the bone of contention.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by carmelily: 3:37pm On Aug 12, 2008
Go for it. No guts, no glory. your being black is an asset. Besides, if them catch you, na simply guguru and garri them go gif u chop. when u pay up them go release u cheesy
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by kiwi992(m): 3:46pm On Aug 12, 2008
Ebonyi,


You said:

@Kiwi992,

Why all the hatred, I bet if you were offered the same job you would not think twice before accepting it!

Well, I don't hate because I have no need to.

By the way, which bit of my posting portrays hatred?  The fact that Bakana was evacuated by the rebel Biafrans or that the Niger Delta has had a raw deal considering it's the bread basket of Nigeria?  

Tell you what, I was merely stating the facts exactly as they are, like it or not.  As you know, the truth is always bitter.  Is it not?

Would I accept that kind of pay for a job in the oil industry in the Niger Delta?  Definitely NOT.  Why?, because I would rather it were shared out amongst ten others, thereby creating the highly needed employment in that part of Nigeria.  Now, you may believe me or not but I don't give a toss.


Anivara, you said:

@ kiwi992

Finally, I just have to add this point, ,  in my opinion trying to say that those ex-pats working in Nigeria's Niger-Delta 'wont survive' if they return to their own country is non-starter.

The credit crunch is global, yet multi billion doller deals are still being done, the UK manufacturing industry has been in decline for the last 20 years, but with the current economic climate the pound has weakened, meaning other UK exports are more affordable keeping the economy ticking over,  (China and Indian economies have slowed) but are still growing ,  and where do they get the fuel for growth Europe !

So by all means plan to wring their necks for the sufferings they have brought unto your people but rest assured the sun will still rise in the UK and 'our people' will still line up at their embassy tring to get a visa to 'check out'

peace !

Mate, credit crunch or not, I've lived in the UK far too long, to know that the so-called expatriates that work in the oil industry in the Niger Delta have no hell of a chance of getting another job, if they ever dared to come back.

UK exports doing better, eh?  That's a joke mate.  What, with all the rising fuel prices, utilities, and all what not?  You seem to forget that when fuel prices go up, production costs go up as well and so industries have no choice but to pass on the higher costs to their customers by way of price increases, in order to maintain a reasonable profit margin or indeed, to break-even. 

When domestic prices go up, for example, in the shops and at the fuel pumps (as they currently are), this gives rise to workers asking for more wages in order to maintain their standard of living.  Higher wages inevitably goes on to increase the cost of production which MUST be passsed on to consumers by way of higher prices.

Result?  Higher domestic prices leads to higher export prices.  Thus, any favourable exchange rate is lost simply because the cost of UK domestic goods and services have gone up.  I don't think anybody needs a PhD in Economics to work this out for themselves.

Oh yeah, if you think that the UK is getting its fuel for growth from Europe, well, friend, you better get ready for what's coming to us, in view of the pipeline war currently raging in Georgia.  Russia has got a stranglehold on the supply of gas and crude oil in Europe, in case you didn't know, through GasProm.  The port of Poti has been completely destroyed so it would be a long time before we start seeing oil from the Caspian Sea. 

Under the current political developments, where do you expect the European countries to turn to, for their insatiable demand for oil?  Iraq or the Niger Delta?  You tell me. 

That said, you must search your conscience before venturing into the Niger Delta for your so-called cushy job.  You've been told.



kiwi992.
Re: Is £900 A Day The Right Reason To Work In Nigeria by agaba123(m): 3:54pm On Aug 12, 2008
Oh boy just learn pigin english if you are black. That will go a long way to protect you. Collect the money bro. It is good.

Meanwhile those guys do not just kill. They only ask for money. So it is a risky business and which business is not risky if you ask me.
best of luck man

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