thegoodjoehunt: Different Keepers have different ways of stopping Penalties. Some guess, some don't.

Peter Cech waits for the last step of the player to takes before shooting then guesses the most likely position the player can shoot the ball.

Others can guess a direction before he takes.

Some watch the penalty takers eyes before he runs to shoot the ball.

Some watch the way the players stand. So it is not always guess work.

There was a game Eric Steele, Goal Keeper trainer of Derby County FC and Former Goal Keeper trainer of Man Utd. He had an Video player in his hands which contained videos of the most likely penalty takers Ben Forster a Man Utd Goal Keeper was to face.

He revised the highest average position the players will kick the ball and Ben Forster made some amazing saves.

abatically:

Revising the highest average position the players kick the ball, is that not guessing? We are saying the same thing, if a keeper looks the standing posting or the eyes of a penalty take to determine where he dives, that is guessing, though intelligent. So my point is valid, a good goalkeeper will not wait for a player like frank Lampard to shoot before diving to the direction of the ball. You can be sure he will certainly not save it.

thegoodjoehunt: It is not "just guessing". It is a calculated guess. Like anticipating the Brazilians are going to try to keep the ball and the Chileans will have to press their defenders with Four players. That is not just a guess like head or tail or I will jump up or down.

It takes study, practice and effort to come up with a strategy. Then practicing the steps to follow up the strategy.

That is not just guessing.

abatically:

its not guesssing, its calculated guess.. why are u contradicting urself. An orange and a ripe orange, are both not oranges? Guess or calculated guess.... guess is guess bro

abatically:

its not guesssing, its calculated guess.. why are u contradicting urself. An orange and a ripe orange, are both not oranges? Guess or calculated guess.... guess is guess bro

thegoodjoehunt: There is a reason the word calculated is put in front of guess. It means work is done before it.

"CALCULATED GUESS"

If it was just a guess, there will be no need for the word.

abatically:

You are still not getting it. I used the word GUESS generally as opposed to goalkeeper waiting for the ball to be struck, and then dives in the direction the ball is played, that is not guessing. But when a goalkeeper makes his move without noting the direction the ball was going, either by looking at the players eyes or watching his past videos to know where he normally puts his penalty.. that is GUESSING my broda.. be in calculated guess or not.

abatically:

You are the only sensible person around here. Enyeama chose a side while the wall blocked the other side. Enyeama probably thought messi would change the position of the free kick and choose to play it to the goalkeeper's side instead of over the wall as the distance was far (Ronaldo does that a lot). Unfortunately messi chose to play it over the wall... it was a perfectly taken free kick and was always going away from the goalkeeper. No matter how hard Enyeama tries, he wouldn't get to that ball. The Only way he would have saved the ball was for him to make the movement before messi took the kick. But then if he had done that and it happened that messi chose the other direction, then we would blame him for not defending his own side.

This Op talking about match fixing... so u are telling me every goalkeeper Messi or other players have scored free kicks against were also involved in match fixing?

abatically:

It doesn't matter how u play ur free kick, the important thing is to get it in the back of the net.. Ronaldo gets the job done, of what good is a beautiful free kick if it didn't end up in the back of the net?

One question... will u say Drogba is not a goal scorer because he doesn't score beautiful goals.. most of his goals are as a result of force and power.. Ibrahimovic scores more beautiful goals than Ronaldo.. but it doesn't make him a better goal machine than Ronaldo. SO my guy, Ronaldo is a free kick specialist with 50 career free kick goals.. show me a player that can beat that. As at 2013, Pirlo at 34 has scored 40 free kick goals... I don't know how much he scored this year. Ronaldo is 29, I'm sure before the end of his career he will probably get up to 65 free kick goals. Now u still think he's not a specialist?

kendrick93: anytime i watch ronaldo his freekicks dnt even cross d wall. i know wat am sayin. and dat 50gls is pure fantasy. he is nowhere near dat.stop inventin rubbish

kendrick93: anytime i watch ronaldo his freekicks dnt even cross d wall. i know wat am sayin. and dat 50gls is pure fantasy. he is nowhere near dat.stop inventin rubbish

kendrick93: anytime i watch ronaldo his freekicks dnt even cross d wall. i know wat am sayin. and dat 50gls is pure fantasy. he is nowhere near dat.stop inventin rubbish

abatically:

Huh, 50 goals a fantasy? Why don't u do a little research rather than hating on the young lad. As at April 2014, he has scored 49 free kick goals. When u add the one against bayern Munich that makes it 50 from 2003-2014.

His free kicks don't cross the wall u say? A simple question, if someone takes a free kick that crosses the wall but didn't score, vs someone takes a free kick under the wall or to the direction of the keeper and still scores.. which one is better? And he has done it 50 times.. that's a technique Ronaldo himself invented so stop hating.

Mr Mac-10:
MESSI IS A GOD. THAT'S why

jidobaba: OP has developed a perfectly legitimate enquiry here. When that free kick went in almost everyone watching wondered why Enyeama wouldn't palm away the ball, it was practically within arms reach!
With OP's postulations, now I realise he (Enyeama) actually invited Messi to put the ball to that direction. Whether for money or friendship's sake remains unknown.

Rossikk: Why Didn't Enyeama Dive For that Messi's Freekick?

I also find his positioning for the kick very dodgy indeed. Like he was inviting Messi to score on his left side. The gap he left to his left was so wide. So why didn't he dive when the ball got there? Where else was he expecting the ball to go? ALL VERY VERY DODGY.

Match fixing anyone?

Rossikk: Why Didn't Enyeama Dive For that Messi's Freekick?

I also find his positioning for the kick very dodgy indeed. Like he was inviting Messi to score on his left side. The gap he left to his left was so wide. So why didn't he dive when the ball got there? Where else was he expecting the ball to go? ALL VERY VERY DODGY.

Match fixing anyone?

Kaxmytex: He was nt well positioned.,.


He thought messi iz gon change d direction of hiz kick.....