FriendNG:


Yeah account deactivated. Regardless of those rules it can still be edited.

FriendNG:


You get mouth to talk? If I descend on you know you will call it bullying.

Rilwayne001:


2 of my other accounts are serving 10years each.

FriendNG:


You get mouth to talk? If I descend on you know you will call it bullying.

Demmzy15:
NAS

tbaba1234:


Go to Spain, all the Muslim mosques have become churches and you can barely find Muslims there. Spain was Muslim at some point.

Yet there are significant amounts of minorities in the Arab world. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan etc.. If the Muslim governments have forcibly coverted people, in a few generations, there will be no other faith.

Iran was Sunni as at the 15th Century but when the Safavid empire took over, they cracked down and expelled Sunni Scholarship, today Sunnis are a small minority.

If an empire wants to force people to a faith, it is not difficult. Generally, this was not the case with Muslims. It only takes a few generations.

Demmzy15:
That mynd guy mind sha

sino:

It is just amazing how the early Muslims were able to achieve such great feat without recourse to forcefully convert people. I can only compare what the Safavid Shi'a did in Iran to what the Catholics did in Spain, it was complete hatred and annihilation of their enemies (Muslims).

I came across another interesting quote in an article:

"Michael Penn, a professor of early Christian-Muslim relations at Mount Holyoke College, is a student of early Syriac manuscripts. He came across letters written by Christians who were hostile to Islam, but he also found a document written by a Christian bishop in the middle of the seventh century that says, “Arabs aren’t opposed to Christianity, they respect our religion, honor priests and holy men. We have records of Muslim rulers helping found Christian monasteries.” Professor Penn also found an extended prayer by a Christian on behalf of a Muslim ruler. The highlight of his research, however, was a seventh-century canon law permitting Christian priests to administer last rites to Muslims as well as perform exorcisms to heal Muslims using Christian relics."

Source

Rilwayne001:


And that iPod boy call lala, dey almost finish my career in this forum.

You guys are like Tom and Jerry!

tbaba1234:


Go to Spain, all the Muslim mosques have become churches and you can barely find Muslims there. Spain was Muslim at some point.

Yet there are significant amounts of minorities in the Arab world. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan etc.. If the Muslim governments have forcibly coverted people, in a few generations, there will be no other faith.

Iran was Sunni as at the 15th Century but when the Safavid empire took over, they cracked down and expelled Sunni Scholarship, today Sunnis are a small minority.

If an empire wants to force people to a faith, it is not difficult. Generally, this was not the case with Muslims. It only takes a few generations.

tbaba1234:
When the muslims entered spain:

"Thus, when Muslims crossed the straits of Gibraltar from North Africa in 711 CE and invaded the Iberian Peninsula, Jews welcomed them as liberators from Christian Persecution."

Zion Zohar, Sephardic & Mizrahi Jewry, New York, 2005, p. 8-9.

"It was in these favourable circumstances that the Spanish Jews came under the rule of Mahometans (Muslims), as whose allies they esteemed themselves the equals of their co-religionists in Babylonia and Persia. They were kindly treated, obtained religious liberty, of which they had so long been deprived, were permitted to exercise jurisdiction over their co-religionists, and were only obliged, like the conquered Christians, to pay poll tax (Dsimma)’... H. Graetz, History of the Jews, London, 1892, v 3, p. 112

Jewish Spain became “the place of civilization and of spiritual activity- a garden of fragrant, joyous, and happy poetry, as well as the seat of earnest research and clear thought.” Like the Arabian Christians (the Christians who lived amongst the Mahometans) the Jews made themselves acquainted with the language and literature of their conquerors, and often got precedence over them. But whilst Arabian Christians gave up their own individuality, forgot their own language- Gothic Latin- and could not even read the creeds, and were ashamed of Christianity, the Jews of Spain were so little affected through this contact with Arabs, that it only served to increase their love and enthusiasm for their mother tongue, their holy law, and their religion. Through favourable circumstances Jewish Spain was in a position at first to rival Babylonia, then to supersede it, and finally to maintain its superiority for nearly five hundred years. H. Graetz, History of the Jews, London, 1892, v 3, p. 220

sino:

I cannot help but state that indeed the verse of the Qur'an which declared Muslims to be the best of people for mankind is indeed the truth. The drive was to establish a just and fair atmosphere for people to flourish, commanding the good and forbidding the bad according to the Qur'an and Sunnah.

It is a fact that people embraced Islam voluntarily and adopted the Arab culture without hassle, even far to lands never conquered by the Muslim Army. It was indeed a powerful movement that is astonishing.

AlBaqir:


# Why do you like to use Christianity cases to justify some of the Muslim's extremism?!

# Since you guys have understood this discussion to be another "Sunni-Shia" stuff, I will have to correct or remind you that both Schools are guilty as per forcing their ways into the throat of others. There is no point running away from this known fact.

# I say NO to any form of compulsion in religion. Quran make this clear and nothing abrogated that ruling.

tbaba1234:


There were never any muslim armies in Malaysia and Indonesia. Conversion was organic through contact with muslims.

tintingz:
Well said. They are using other nation, religion conquest to justify the early Muslims actions.

The early Muslim invaded people's land and give them conditions either they accept Islam or pay tax, they even took women as booty and slaves, changed their language and culture(agreed by all historian). What kind of "Peace" and "mercy" is that?

All these were done out greed and savagery.

Boda NAS, despite all the submissions, you're still adamant.

Na wa for you o

Demmzy15:

Boda NAS, despite all the submissions, you're still adamant.

Na wa for you o

Demmzy15:
You guys are like Tom and Jerry!

AbdelKabir:


lol, Wikipedia that he will go and edit