Apatheist:
Nobody mentioned Botswana. You butted in.

South africa and botswana is one thing, we share language and calture with botswana, we know nothing about nigeria culture. Setswana is one of south africa official language, marrying our poor sa girl doesn't make you sa'n. The batswana people will remain part of us forever. Stop insulting our Girl Pls.

MrPSA:
South africa and botswana is one thing, we share language and calture with botswana, we know nothing about nigeria culture. Setswana is one of south africa official language, marrying our poor sa girl doesn't make you sa'n. The batswana people will remain part of us forever. Stop insulting our Girl Pls.

The Zimbabwean (Ndebele) people are also very much offshoots of the Zulu people so much so that their languages are quite similar in the same manner Xhosa is to Zulu. All Nguni languages.

Why are you chasing them out too.

***Thats RACIST!***** in malema voice!

morpheus24:

The Zimbabwean (Ndebele) people are also very much offshoots of the Zulu people so much so that their languages are quite similar in the same manner Xhosa is to Zulu. All Nguni languages.

Why are you chasing them out too.

***Thats RACIST!***** in malema voice!

Get with the program will you? If you are going to pretend to know everything about SA. For your info South Africa is not a disorderly country like Nigeria. There are many illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe who should go back home and apply the right way to be in SA. The number of legal immigrants from Zimbabwe in SA is twice the number of Botswan's population. There a significantly high number of citizenship given to Zimbabwans based in ancestral ties to South Africa be it Ndebele's and Xhosa's who settled in Zimbabwe. You cannot ask SA to absorb the whole population of Zimbabwe that is madness. I think they have and are doing enough already on that regard. Please next time talk on behalf of the drug dealing, pimping, fraudulant Nigerian Gigolos and leave Southern Africans alone.

****BLOODY AGENT!!! ********
(in Juju's voice!)

BluIvy:
Get with the program will you? If you are going to pretend to know everything about SA. For your info South Africa is not a disorderly country like Nigeria. There are many illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe who should go back home and apply the right way to be in SA. The number of legal immigrants from Zimbabwe in SA is twice the number of Botswan's population. There a significantly high number of citizenship given to Zimbabwans based in ancestral ties to South Africa be it Ndebele's and Xhosa's who settled in Zimbabwe. You cannot ask SA to absorb the whole population of Zimbabwe that is madness. I think they have and are doing enough already on that regard. Please next time talk on behalf of the drug dealing, pimping, fraudulant Nigerian Gigolos and leave Southern Africans alone.
****BLOODY AGENT!!! ********
(in Juju's voice!)

Point 1: Everybody always accuses me of knowing everything about SA, yet at the end of the day no one says the information I am giving is incorrect. Hmmmmm?

Point 2: In response to your comment on disorderly countries I could as well argue the following,"the average South African is not as industrious as the average Nigerian." Pointless either way as just like your claim, adds nothing relevant to the discussion.

Point 3: As I have stated earlier, every country has a right to protect its borders, however the point made by MR. PSA is quite daft concerning ethnic ties btwTswana people across both borders as I showed is as well possible in the same case as ndebele ZImbabweans. Why then the tribalism

Point 4. Your point on the number of Zimbabweans outnumbering the number of Botswana and therefore the justification for protecting the inflow of migrants into South Africa from Botswana and the opposition of Zimbabweans is at best simplistic and at worst just daft. If you want we can discuss the glaring variables that have caused the dispersion of peoples across borders in southern Africa and how this has determined nationality.

Point 5. I will never be against deporting, imprisoning, sentencing or punishing any suspected or captured drug dealer, love-vendor or fraudster (including your parliamentarian diploma fraudster Pallo Jordan). Please lobby the SA government to take action against that. Don't you have enough clout to do this MS MOtswana


Point 6. A Motswana like yourself has no right to use the catch prase.."BLOODY AGENT" as your cowardly king and elders sort protection from the same British government surpressing your brothers in SA for protection against the the encroaching CEcil RHodes.


Take your SENSITIVE MOTswana azz back to the streets of Gaborone and go build your father's country instead of running to SA to claim your mothers citizenship, bloody tribalist xenophob!

morpheus24:


Point 1: Everybody always accuses me of knowing everything about SA, yet at the end of the day no one says the information I am giving is incorrect. Hmmmmm?

LOL, that's a really funny comment. I've grown tired of correcting your misconceptions of South Africa. I have once told you that the majority of Zimbabweans are Shona and that the minority Ndebele blend in with the South Africa Ndebele without difficulty so it's difficult to discern if they are foreign. Like I have told you before, there is no evidence that Ndebele from Zim, Batswana from Bots, Swatis from Swaziland and Basotho from Lesotho ever get ostracised in SA. That's because they blend in.

But being so obsessed about another country will understandably lead you to believe that you know more about it than its citizens.

paniki:
LOL, that's a really funny comment. I've grown tired of correcting your misconceptions of South Africa. I have once told you that the majority of Zimbabweans are Shona and that the minority Ndebele blend in with the South Africa Ndebele without difficulty so it's difficult to discern if they are foreign. Like I have told you before, there is no evidence that Ndebele from Zim, Batswana from Bots, Swatis from Swaziland and Basotho from Lesotho ever get ostracised in SA. That's because they blend in.
But being so obsessed about another country will understandably lead you to believe that you know more about it than its citizens.

Point 1. So from the above statement we are to understand that the ethnic xenophobia is channeled at "Shona" Zimbabweans as opposed to ndebele Zimbabweans. Right, right!

Point 2. I guess now I can also use this glorious epiphany to understand why for a long time the minority "venda" people were almost considered makwerekwere's or not "real" South africans once upon a time because their language is not widely spoken in SA.

Please! spare me that dribble.

morpheus24:


Point 1. So from the above statement we are to understand that the ethnic xenophobia is channeled at "Shona" Zimbabweans as opposed to ndebele Zimbabweans. Right, right!

That's correct. The only way to prove otherwise is to show evidence of Ndebele from Zim being ostracised. There aren't that many Ndebele people around anyway and most of them end up speaking Zulu in anycase cause the languages are almost identical.

Point 2. I guess now I can also use this glorious epiphany to understand why for a long time the minority "venda" people were almost considered makwerekwere's or not "real" South africans once upon a time because their language is not widely spoken in SA.

Please! spare me that dribble.

Also correct. Venda is similar to Shona and there are Venda communities living in Zim.

What you must understand is that language is what unites or divides. So if you as a Naija were fluent in Zulu/Xhosa or Sotho/Tswana then everyone in SA will consider you local. Most Shonas from Zim quickly learn Zulu because it's related to Shona and they all fit in easily afterwards.

If you were clued up as you would like us to think you would know that most of those killed in 2008 were asked questions in one of the local languages and if they couldn't answer back then they were revealled to be foreign and they got attacked.

paniki:
That's correct. The only way to prove otherwise is to show evidence of Ndebele from Zim being ostracised. There aren't that many Ndebele people around anyway and most of them end up speaking Zulu in anycase cause the languages are almost identical.

Look, I don't conjour stuff up when I make statements and your apologist stance is not flying. My time at limpopo made me very much aware of tribal issues surrounding the ar descendants of Shoshangane, Mzilikazi and Zwangendaba clans who are Tsonga, Ndebele and Zambia/malawi respectively. Yes we know your 11 official languages in South Africa include two of these groups but please don't try to slip the fact that many of them were and are still considered foreigners despite the shared tribal affinities.

paniki:

What you must understand is that language is what unites or divides. So if you as a Naija were fluent in Zulu/Xhosa or Sotho/Tswana then everyone in SA will consider you local.

I wish that were true but seeing that the son of a congolese man and a South african woman who ends up speaking fluent zulu is looked upon as a foreigner in the eyes of locals,I doubt your statment very much so.

paniki:

Most Shonas from Zim quickly learn Zulu because it's related to Shona and they all fit in easily afterwards.
If you were clued up as you would like us to think you would know that most of those killed in 2008 were asked questions in one of the local languages and if they couldn't answer back then they were revealled to be foreign and they got attacked.

Right because most of them didn't all confluence themselves in certain sections of the townnship and wouldn't be easily identifiable by locals regardless of the ability to speak local languages.

LOVEMORE SIBANDA sure got away with being beat up because he switched from Ndebele to Zulu!!. HA Whackhead is hilarious

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morpheus24:

Look, I don't conjour stuff up when I make statements and your apologist stance is not flying. My time at limpopo made me very much aware of tribal issues surrounding the ar descendants of Shoshangane, Mzilikazi and Zwangendaba clans who are Tsonga, Ndebele and Zambia/malawi respectively. Yes we know your 11 official languages in South Africa include two of these groups but please don't try to slip the fact that many of them were and are still considered foreigners despite the shared tribal affinities.

Hahahahahaha, you are completely lost. Where in Limpopo did you go? LOL. Like I said, I am now tired of correcting you.

I wish that were true but seeing that the son of a congolese man and a South african woman who ends up speaking fluent zulu is looked upon as a foreigner in the eyes of locals,I doubt your statment very much so.

Since when does an anecdote reflect the entire social mindset? Our government announced yesterday that they'll be extending permits for the hundreds of thousands of Zims to remain in SA for a few more years. Nobody is complaining.

Right because most of them didn't all confluence themselves in certain sections of the townnship and wouldn't be easily identifiable by locals regardless of the ability to speak local languages.

LOVEMORE SIBANDA sure got away with being beat up because he switched from Ndebele to Zulu!!. HA Whackhead is hilarious

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEec3IjVnuM[/flash]

Correct.

Anyway, I have long given up on explaining xenophobia(save for correcting serious inaccuracies like misrepresenting the Zim population). Nevertheless the evidence is overwhelming for those of us who live in this society: those from Zim and Moz find it harder than those from Bots and other neighbours. Simple.

morpheus24:
Point 1: Everybody always accuses me of knowing everything about SA, yet at the end of the day no one says the information I am giving is incorrect. Hmmmmm?

I said you pretend to know, not you know. Get your facts right. Who doesn't know that Ndebele's from South Africa? You think you've said something new but you didn't. How many Ndebele's in Zimbabwe? And I have answered you on ancestral ties claims.

morpheus24:
Point 2: In response to your comment on disorderly countries I could as well argue the following,"the average South African is not as industrious as the average Nigerian." Pointless either way as just like your claim, adds nothing relevant to the discussion.

WTF, is it with you guys and this term"industrious"? Nigeria is anything but industrious! So do you even manufacture anything for exports or for your own domestic use? You are just like bloody locusts that consumes and import for consumption? What industries do you have that are exclusively or majorly Nigerian? Except drugs, 419, etc? Please that is the lamest response from you so far. By the way 90%-99% of Nigerians in SA are just good for nothing pests. Industrious my ample backside. Nigeria is a big DISORDERLY COUNTRY WHERE NOTHING WORKS REALLY, and that's a fact!

morpheus24:
Point 3: As I have stated earlier, every country has a right to protect its borders, however the point made by MR. PSA is quite daft concerning ethnic ties btwTswana people across both borders as I showed is as well possible in the same case as ndebele ZImbabweans. Why then the tribalism

All countries have have treaties and ties they develop with other countries, based on politics, ancestral, religious, or any other and its their right to relate and deal with different countries as they wish. E.g. You cannot tell US how to deal with Israeli they chose to support Israel based on whatever convictions. Secondly, all countries haves certain quotas set aside for each countries to ensure a healthy foreign policy to all, so SA cannot absorb all of Zimbabwe I say this again, as they will start to encroach into other countries quotas. Zimbabweans need to go home and fix their country they cannot for ever be hiding in SA. that would further ruin what is left of Zimbabwe. Nothing tribalist about that. BY THE WAY IF YOU CAN READ PROPERLY MR PSA NEVER MENTIONED ZIMBABWE BUT NIGERIA. He said "we know nothing about Nigeria" And practically careless about you people. Why try to bring in Zimbabwe into this and not speak against his mention of Nigeria?

And once again who puts you in place to speak for Zimbabwans?

morpheus24:
Point 4. Your point on the number of Zimbabweans outnumbering the number of Botswana and therefore the justification for protecting the inflow of migrants into South Africa from Botswana and the opposition of Zimbabweans is at best simplistic and at worst just daft. If you want we can discuss the glaring variables that have caused the dispersion of peoples across borders in southern Africa and how this has determined nationality.

I think you are the one who is simplistic and at best daft, Botswana have healthy neighbourly and brotherly relations with SA. We do not travel out in huge numbers and are the least of SA's problems, so according to you we should be given the same treatment as Zimbabwe who have lately constituted a huge burden to the SA government? You really are daft. By the way please stop trying to take us to 14th & 15th centuries when it comes to SA, we have now all settled and have chosen our countries, we will not allow disorderlyness to avoid words like, tribalists,Xenophobia etc, that is total crapp.Zimbabweman's are the most accommodated lot in SA right now.

morpheus24:
Point 5. I will never be against deporting, imprisoning, sentencing or punishing any suspected or captured drug dealer, love-vendor or fraudster (including your parliamentarian diploma fraudster Pallo Jordan). Please lobby the SA government to take action against that. Don't you have enough clout to do this MS MOtswana

Please, get off your fvcken high horse bloody narccississt! How many of your politicians have forged their qualifications? Do you even ever care to look at that now you act all sanctormonoius. The guy resigned, without any lobbying, which is something a Nigerian would never do if found in the same situation. By the way Pallo Jordan, is doing this in his country Nigerians need to go and do all this in their own enclaves and see who the he'll will care?

morpheus24:
Point 6. A Motswana like yourself has no right to use the catch prase.."BLOODY AGENT" as your cowardly king and elders sort protection from the same British government surpressing your brothers in SA for protection against the the encroaching CEcil RHodes.

You are fvcken kidding right? Who did not seek political solutions to colonialism from colonize A small country like ours was not an exception and if we were cowards what were Nigerians in their numerous numbers being totally owned by Britain? You are in deed ***A BLOODY AGENT****. What's this your response suppose to even serve? Argggg

morpheus24:
Take your SENSITIVE MOTswana azz back to the streets of Gaborone and go build your father's country instead o
f running to SA to claim your mothers citizenship, bloody
tribalist xenophob!

Well, my coutry is one of the African success stories thank you and we are quietly developing to greater rights, that is not even a question in sane climes, THANK YOU! nigeria on the other side? Mmmmmm well story for the gods.

morpheus24:


Point 1. So from the above statement we are to understand that the ethnic xenophobia is channeled at "Shona" Zimbabweans as opposed to ndebele Zimbabweans. Right, right!

Point 2. I guess now I can also use this glorious epiphany to understand why for a long time the minority "venda" people were almost considered makwerekwere's or not "real" South africans once upon a time because their
language is not widely spoken in SA.

Please! spare me that dribble.

What is with you? Why try to create conflict where there is not one? How are Vendas any of your problem? We were talking about Botswana and Nigeria byou dragged Zimbabwe into the fold, now you are talking about Vendas. Please do not act as if Nigeria has no internal tribal issues, actually you people its not issues but deep rooted hatred of proportions only known to a few. Now go sidddown!

BluIvy:
I said you pretend to know, not you know. Get your facts right. Who doesn't know that Ndebele's from South Africa? You think you've said something new but you didn't. How many Ndebele's in Zimbabwe? And I have answered you on ancestral ties claims.
WTF, is it with you guys and this term"industrious"? Nigeria is anything but industrious! So do you even manufacture anything for exports or for your own domestic use? You are just like bloody locusts that consumes and import for consumption? What industries do you have that are exclusively or majorly Nigerian? Except drugs, 419, etc? Please that is the lamest response from you so far. By the way 90%-99% of Nigerians in SA are just good for nothing pests. Industrious my ample backside. Nigeria is a big DISORDERLY COUNTRY WHERE NOTHING WORKS REALLY, and that's a fact!
All countries have have treaties and ties they develop with other countries, based on politics, ancestral, religious, or any other and its their right to relate and deal with different countries as they wish. E.g. You cannot tell US how to deal with Israeli they chose to support Israel based on whatever convictions. Secondly, all countries haves certain quotas set aside for each countries to ensure a healthy foreign policy to all, so SA cannot absorb all of Zimbabwe I say this again, as they will start to encroach into other countries quotas. Zimbabweans need to go home and fix their country they cannot for ever be hiding in SA. that would further ruin what is left of Zimbabwe. Nothing tribalist about that. BY THE WAY IF YOU CAN READ PROPERLY MR PSA NEVER MENTIONED ZIMBABWE BUT NIGERIA. He said "we know nothing about Nigeria" And practically careless about you people. Why try to bring in Zimbabwe into this and not speak against his mention of Nigeria?
And once again who puts you in place to speak for Zimbabwans?
I think you are the one who is simplistic and at best daft, Botswana have healthy neighbourly and brotherly relations with SA. We do not travel out in huge numbers and are the least of SA's problems, so according to you we should be given the same treatment as Zimbabwe who have lately constituted a huge burden to the SA government? You really are daft. By the way please stop trying to take us to 14th & 15th centuries when it comes to SA, we have now all settled and have chosen our countries, we will not allow disorderlyness to avoid words like, tribalists,Xenophobia etc, that is total crapp.Zimbabweman's are the most accommodated lot in SA right now.
Please, get off your fvcken high horse bloody narccississt! How many of your politicians have forged their qualifications? Do you even ever care to look at that now you act all sanctormonoius. The guy resigned, without any lobbying, which is something a Nigerian would never do if found in the same situation. By the way Pallo Jordan, is doing this in his country Nigerians need to go and do all this in their own enclaves and see who the he'll will care?
You are fvcken kidding right? Who did not seek political solutions to colonialism from colonize A small country like ours was not an exception and if we were cowards what were Nigerians in their numerous numbers being totally owned by Britain? You are in deed ***A BLOODY AGENT****. What's this your response suppose to even serve? Argggg
Well, my coutry is one of the African success stories thank you and we are quietly developing to greater rights, that is not even a question in sane climes, THANK YOU! nigeria on the other side? Mmmmmm well story for the gods.

yep

BluIVy:


You are fvcken kidding right? Who did not seek political solutions to colonialism from colonize A small country like ours was not an exception and if we were cowards what were Nigerians in their numerous numbers being totally owned by Britain? You are in deed ***A BLOODY AGENT****. What's this your response suppose to even serve? Argggg
Well, my coutry is one of the African success stories thank you and we are quietly developing to greater rights, that is not even a question in sane climes, THANK YOU! nigeria on the other side? Mmmmmm well story for the gods.

The point is to show you are a MOTSWANA, your father's people negotiated your nationality and expects that you stay in BOTSWANA, instead of looking for the same opportunities the ZIms and other African nationals are seeking in SA.

Stop deceiving us with a GDP divided into 1.5 million people to get a relatively higher per capita number in comparison to most African countries otherwise you would be enjoying this higher per capita income and there would be no need for you to cross the borders.

Case in point: Hausa people are in Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Ghana. They are proud of their nationalities. You don't see them hiding under the cloak of we are all West Africans so lets hop skip and jump around cause we have linguistic affinities, like your deceptive "Southern African" slogan you like to toss around in a bid to ALIGN yourself with South Africa


When you head back to Botswana to go enjoy that high GDP per capita, come talk to me and we'll talk about all those Nigerians who couldn't make their way to better economies and discuss how they should be repatriated from SA.

morpheus24:

The point is to show you are a MOTSWANA, your father's people negotiated your nationality and expects that you stay in BOTSWANA, instead of looking for the same opportunities the ZIms and other African nationals are seeking in SA.

Stop deceiving us with a GDP divided into 1.5 million people to get a relatively higher per capita number in comparison to most African countries otherwise you would be enjoying this higher per capita income and there would be no need for you to cross the borders.

Case in point: Hausa people are in Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Ghana. They are proud of their nationalities. You don't see them hiding under the cloak of we are all West Africans so lets hop skip and jump around cause we have linguistic affinities, like your deceptive "Southern African" slogan you like to toss around in a bid to ALIGN yourself with South Africa


When you head back to Botswana to go enjoy that high GDP per capita, come talk to me and we'll talk about all those Nigerians who couldn't make their way to better economies and discuss how they should be repatriated from SA.

You are all over the shore Morphy
Anyways I doubt very much if any sane people of a country would want to be associated with Nigeria. You people are the walking dead, logic is a luxury to you. On the hand, yes we in Southern Africa especially, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland and South Africa,we know we are family. Now take that! Mind you Botswana is a great country Gdp, development, employment, education etc. Only a foooo would be ashamed of being associated with the best story of Africa. Self made by the way.

BluIvy:
You are all over the shore Morphy
Anyways I doubt very much if any sane people of a country would want to be associated with Nigeria. You people are the walking dead, logic is a luxury to you. On the hand, yes we in Southern Africa especially, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland and South Africa,we know we are family. Now take that! Mind you Botswana is a great country Gdp, development, employment, education etc. Only a foooo would be ashamed of being associated with the best story of Africa. Self made by the way.

All this doesn't change the fact that you are Motswana and must GO BEK! to The land your father's fought for to make a country. That whole we are family argument doesn't fly. I can as well draw on the relationship bantu's have all across east and southern Africa and link that to Nigeria if we wanna go there.

Again in case you are hard of hearing:

Case in point: Hausa people are in Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Ghana. They are culturally, linguistically and ethnically related, in other words they are FAMILIY, but they are proud of their nationalities. You don't see them swapping allegiance

One moment moffie justifies his infatuation with SA by saying that he is African and by that viture he finds himself duty-bound to have puppy love for all things African, with a strong focus on all things South African. He also now says that Africans should be "proud of their nationalities" that were artificially carved out by imperialist from an all together different continent. Bipolar tendencies.

Le sale mo? Tjo le nale nako maarn

paniki: One moment moffie justifies his infatuation with SA by saying that he is African and by that viture he finds himself duty-bound to have puppy love for all things African, with a strong focus on all things South African. He also now says that Africans should be "proud of their nationalities" that were artificially carved out by imperialist from an all together different continent. Bipolar tendencies.

Told you! Besides why does he think he has a right to dictate how South Africa relate with different countries? Why is he so pained by the fact that I am a Motswana with South African ties. He insist that I abandon my maternal ties and stick to my paternal country. For his information I love Botswana with passion and it is a few hours drive away from SA. I can never totally be away from home, its impossible.

paniki: One moment moffie justifies his infatuation with SA by saying that he is African and by that viture he finds himself duty-bound to have puppy love for all things African, with a strong focus on all things South African. He also now says that Africans should be "proud of their nationalities" that were artificially carved out by imperialist from an all together different continent. Bipolar tendencies.

The South African apologist at work again.

1. Please do not mis-represent, mis-quote or mis-interpret "outside of its context", passed statements made in other threads in a feeble attempt to advance this one. Ask if you need further clarification.



2. Apparently bantu education has forced you to reason that a display of "Pan-Africanism" and a comment on "national pride" are mutually exclusive ideologies in the African context.




Shem!

BluIvy:
Told you! Besides why does he think he has a right to dictate how South Africa relate with different countries? Why is he so pained by the fact that I am a Motswana with South African ties. He insist that I abandon my maternal ties and stick to my paternal country. For his information I love Botswana with passion and it is a few hours drive away from SA. I can never totally be away from home, its impossible.

You are a slow poke Ms Motswana, How is commenting or expressing an opinion on a "Nigerian" forum about illegal immigrant issues or ethnic ties "DICTATING" to South Africa how it relates to neighboring countries.


You guys down south have complex issues. Obvious after effects of long term isolation from the rest of the continent.

Eissh!

morpheus24:

THe usual sob story. How can a foreigner become a traitor?. Is it not your country. Can you not create jobs or figure out ways to eliminate the competition by using your brains.

Why are you not chasing out all the "europeans", Pakistani and chinese that are flooding your country as well, setting up businessess and stealing your jobs?

am sure you dont know how cheap labour affects the local

let me give you an average example using the naira lets say the average monthly pay is 15000 naira and is barely enough for local people

then comes a foreigner from cameroon for the same job he doesnt mind being paid 10000, so employers will prefer to take foreigners becoz they pay them less

then it affects the local, remember that the 15000 is barely enough so it means things are now worse for the local people as employers would either take a foreigner or pay you less like that foreigner therefore you living standards get worse

then the local people would say lets strike, they strike but the foreigners dont they go to work and the strike doesnt make an effect

then the foreigner becames a traitor

morpheus24:

The South African apologist at work again.

1. Please do not mis-represent, mis-quote or mis-interpret "outside of its context", passed statements made in other threads in a feeble attempt to advance this one. Ask if you need further clarification.

Not at all. Your meta- morphoses has happended all in this thread. It's more of a flip-flop actually.

2. Apparently bantu education has forced you to reason that a display of "Pan-Africanism" and a comment on "national pride" are mutually exclusive ideologies in the African context.

It's well known in debating circles that ad hominems are used by the defeated. Anyway, your desire for national pride inadvertently reveals your xenophobic tendencies. Imagine the hypocrisy of a South African preaching unity among Africans and yet demanding that Nigerians should leave SA to go pride themselves in a dirty slum of Lagos because it's home. Try again.

paniki:
It's well known in debating circles that ad hominems are used by the defeated. Anyway, your desire for national pride inadvertently reveals your xenophobic tendencies. Imagine the hypocrisy of a South African preaching unity among Africans and yet demanding that Nigerians should leave SA to go pride themselves in a dirty slum of Lagos because it's home. Try again.

It is also well known in debating circles that "straw man arguments" are used to sway away from the original argument being addressed.

Imagine a Liberian with a Yoruba mother demanding that Kanuri's who live in the border states of Borno state leave the country based on ethnic tensions in the north.

Must Morpheus always decipher for the feeble minded.

Ask and you shall get clarification.

Try harder!

morpheus24:

It is also well known in debating circles that "straw man arguments" are used to sway away from the original argument being addressed.

Imagine a Liberian with a Yoruba mother demanding that Kanuri's who live in the border states of Borno state leave the country based on ethnic tensions in the north.

Must Morpheus always decipher for the feeble minded.

Ask and you shall get clarification.

Try harder!

The illeist in you has once again come out. It usually makes an appearance as a last ditch attempt to rescue you wounded ego. It's a lot like using monkey tested medicine to treat a not yet curable illness - in this case it's your delusions of grandeur.

Morpheus should not decipher for this feeble mind of mine, Morpheus should rather stop paying lip service to phoney ideas of Pan-Africanism when he very well knows that he is a closet xenophobe.

paniki:
The illeist in you has once again come out. It usually makes an appearance as a last ditch attempt to rescue you wounded ego. It's a lot like using monkey tested medicine to treat a not yet curable illness - in this case it's your delusions of grandeur.
Morpheus should not decipher for this feeble mind of mine, Morpheus should rather stop paying lip service to phoney ideas of Pan-Africanism when he very well knows that he is a closet xenophobe.

Xenophobe reserved for South Africans. I am in no fear of any foreigner. There aren't any in my country to be fearful of.

Does my grasp of the inner workings of your society drive you crazy?

Morpheus says " come with me let me show you how deep the rabbit hole goes"

morpheus24:

Xenophobe reserved for South Africans. I am in no fear of any foreigner. There aren't any in my country to be fearful of.

Does my grasp of the inner workings of your society drive you crazy?

Morpheus says " come with me let me show you how deep the rabbit hole goes"

Right, xenophobe is reserved for South Africans who have to rely on the likes of Morpheus to tell a Motswana to leave SA. When SA issues new visa rules the very same Morpheus cynically claims that the aim is to purge Africans with some few white casualties but the SA government extends visa permits for Zims basically nullifying his "grasp of the inner workings of (our) society". We must now wait to see if Morpheus will also demand that Zimbabweans also leave to go pride themselves at Mugabes doorstep.

You don't have much of a grasp of our society, you merely regurgitate facts that are readily available. You normally faulter when you try to add analysis to the facts, that's when your lack of understanding shows. I think it's the pretentiousness that I find offputting.

Yeyenatu I'm still waiting...

soilsista: Lol woooo EroZA uyancintshana shame!! Even phuthu and maas is fine because angihluphi.

Yeyenatu please tell him! I ask him and he tells me Apatheist will sort me out. Where have you heard of such? Come December you will be here by fire by force! Plus there's this nice Naija restaurant in Sunnyside my friend says they make the best Yoruba food in town.

Lol Unapologetic I will hold you to that neh. You know that August is now now so when the time comes don't tell me stories sir!!

I'm glad you're all fine. Ndinithanda gqithi

Njani? Am now in Mzanzi, eastern cape to be precise. I will let u know when am in Gauteng Am keeping to my word.

unapologetic:




Njani? Am now in Mzanzi, eastern cape to be precise. I will let u know when am in Gauteng Am keeping to my word.

Ngiyaphila bhuti wami. Lol ja about that neh...