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Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:25am On Jul 15, 2014 |
The moderator that moved this thread to front page is not doing anything good. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by hunter21(m): 8:25am On Jul 15, 2014 |
everybody, everything that is conscious is an orisha. irunmoles are orishas on the universal level. however there can be human manifestations(not incannation) of irunmoles. e.g jeshua ben joseph is an human manifestation of the universal JESUS, and the different obatalas and oduduwas recorded in yoruba history are human manifestation of obatala and oduduwa on the universal level. 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 8:35am On Jul 15, 2014 |
amor4ce: This question is drawn from the historical records of Ifa of which I seek a better understanding.listen and listen very good u evil doer,"we are in d last days when jesus might show up any moment from now,things re going wrong,more souls re cast into hell daily,"yet d best u can do is to add salt to dis social injury by asking some useless question dat will make soul start believing in dieties where as its d devil dat is operating. Pls dnt wash ur dirty laundry in public next time.GO TO HELL ALONE. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by ayobase(m): 8:50am On Jul 15, 2014 |
kekakuz: do u still have that book. pagan9ja never talk for here o |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by experimentist: 9:01am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Another dumb azz question on front again! Shebi na Zeus wey born hades. Who come born hercules? Hercules and Sango na the same mama the same papa.. Na after dem come born jesus the white.. All of them na product of pre marital sex.. The story too long I dey come meh I finish it |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Davo93(m): 9:03am On Jul 15, 2014 |
2prexios: D.O. Fagunwa's epic compares with 'The pilgrim progress.' How I loved 'Ireke Onibudo', it was my best thriller of all. Amo4ce, karaole o, I miss you quite much, cheers.Sorry, do you know where online that i can get that book? Ireke Onibudo and Igbo Olodunmare |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Davo93(m): 9:09am On Jul 15, 2014 |
MetaPhysical: Amor4ce, Prexious, it's nice to converge with you enlightened souls again.Sorry, do you know where i can get these books online? |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by josite: 9:20am On Jul 15, 2014 |
obviously u dont have a gainful thing to engage your time on?and what if they do? |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by macof(m): 9:21am On Jul 15, 2014 |
hunter21: everybody, everything that is conscious is an orisha. irunmoles are orishas on the universal level. a beautiful analysis This is where identifying history and spirituality in the Yoruba society comes in For instance, Oduduwa coming from the sky, doesn't mean a man falling from space. It's a "spiritual" event passed with coding As the OP said Oduduwa is also Olu-Iwa/Olu-Iwaye. That is lord of the earth's existence or the existence of the physical plain Oduduwa is both Irunmole and Orisha depending on your point of view and understanding of the stories concerning the name and personality Orisha is basically anything given high reference and adoration, selected from the whole as one to be special. I call my girl my Orisa, I call my mother my Orisa. Your favorite thing in the world is an Orisha to you. Irunmole are also Orisha in common Yoruba Everything has Consciousness but the Orisa are selected consciousness, it is it's energies that so influences But the Irunmole work on a different plain, as independent unseen energies that sustain our world, extensive forms of Olodumare. They are present in everything - stars, planets and just space. They cannot exist as men, but their energies aee present in men. Most Orisha in Yoruba history like Orunmila Baba Agbonmiregun, were filled with the energies of the Irunmole to a very unusual level. Every Irunmole that is known in Ifa, has represented itself in the Ori of a Great man in Yoruba history or simply manifested as an obvious aspect of existence in this world Look at Ogun, how many people in history are called Ogun? So many, one in Ire-Ekiti, another in Saki Oyo, one in Ife another in Idanre...but When we speak of Osinmole the Great lord and sustainer of the metallic elements we are not talking men but spirit 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Epathra(f): 9:23am On Jul 15, 2014 |
As much as I don't believe in deities, I admire the richness of Ʊя̩̥̊ research, the depth of Ʊя̩̥̊ knowledge and Ʊя̩̥̊ passion for the belief. PS: I don't believe in re-incarnation too. 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:24am On Jul 15, 2014 |
FOLYKAZE: The moderator that moved this thread to front page is not doing anything good. I agree. amor4ace topics on Traditional Religion should neve be encouraged and allowed on frontpage. The guy is clearly trying to equate Yoruba religion with abrahamic concepts. amor4ace is a christian agent in disguise. Orishas are GODS not humans. There is no floods and the first humans were not created in this manner. Evolution occured and Creation myths are meant to explain the beginings of a tribe only. These are stories not to be taken literally. Next Thread. 3 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 9:25am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Interesting piece we have here. I commento ma reservo. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by jobsat34(m): 9:48am On Jul 15, 2014 |
messpero90: listen and listen very good u evil doer,"we are in d last days when jesus might show up any moment from now,things re going wrong,more souls re cast into hell daily,"yet d best u can do is to add salt to dis social injury by asking some useless question dat will make soul start believing in dieties where as its d devil dat is operating. Pls dnt wash ur dirty laundry in public next time.GO TO HELL ALONE. when are we going to learn respecting other peoples opinion/believe ?? ?? 3 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 9:58am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Abiagirl777: Yes they reincarnate to becomethey reincarnate to become boko haram |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Davidolives(m): 10:01am On Jul 15, 2014 |
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Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 10:02am On Jul 15, 2014 |
jobsat34:you re lucky dat Jesus came and abolish d law of moses, if nt u would have stoned to death for blasphemy. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by opiaoku: 10:04am On Jul 15, 2014 |
*scrolling thread looking for pagan naija* |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by jobsat34(m): 10:12am On Jul 15, 2014 |
messpero90: you re lucky dat Jesus came and abolish d law of moses, if nt u would have stoned to death for blasphemy. you are lucky that we are having a clueless/non_working system of govt, you would have been behind bar for attempted murderer.. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 10:17am On Jul 15, 2014 |
jobsat34:ha ha ha ha anyway i count exchange words with u bcaus ure still a *KID. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by jobsat34(m): 10:22am On Jul 15, 2014 |
messpero90: ha ha ha ha anyway i count exchange words with u bcaus ure still a *KID. dont be mistaken.. i m openminded.. not insultin yu.. guess yu can recognise sarcasm if yu see one.. besides, i m not the OP naa.. i only say we should try and respect others opinion nii.. mind you, Yiyo Ekun, Kii se Tojo.. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Adenugay(m): 10:24am On Jul 15, 2014 |
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Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Nobody: 10:29am On Jul 15, 2014 |
jobsat34:wharever. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by Barrywilly(m): 10:52am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Who post this nonsense? |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by jobsat34(m): 10:57am On Jul 15, 2014 |
messpero90: wharever. the best reply so far... |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by bolaino(m): 10:59am On Jul 15, 2014 |
IBA SE OLODUMARE OBA RERE KAYY AYEEEEEE. |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by tintingz(m): 11:04am On Jul 15, 2014 |
messpero90: listen and listen very good u evil doer,"we are in d last days when jesus might show up any moment from now,things re going wrong,more souls re cast into hell daily,"yet d best u can do is to add salt to dis social injury by asking some useless question dat will make soul start believing in dieties where as its d devil dat is operating. Pls dnt wash ur dirty laundry in public next time.GO TO HELL ALONE.Please try and respect other people's belief. I'm not of any Yoruba religion nor believe in deities but that doesn't mean I should insult what they believe in. If you are a christian then stick and believe in your Christianity, to your own is your belief to them is theirs. It is people like that mix religion with family ties and cut the ties because they believe in what you don't believe. 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Irunmoles Incarnate As Orishas? by jobsat34(m): 11:06am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Jamean: yu too talk am.. i am a christian, though not an EXTREMIST like him.. i use to ask myself this questions.. 1. what if i m not opportune to know christ ?? (if i was not born a Christian and never had any contact with christianity) 2. can we fight for God ?? 3. Does God has/approve of a particular religion ?? can anyone answer these questions with biblical/Quranic citations 2 Likes |
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