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Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Samgreguc(m): 2:45pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
5minsmadness:no, it nt jst dat. Hw do u mean they are selfish. These 'doctors' you mentioned are well known people and do not work in the health sector. Nobody is going to meet okonjo-iweala and ask her to treat them for malaria.but, u said v.soon they will start asking for the title(Dr) be added to their name. Do u mean they shudn't have it even when they are qualified? There is enough confusion in the health sector as it is with all of you wearing lab coats that we don't even know who the real doctors are anymore.what do u want them to wear? Black? Mind u, the Physicians theatre dress is blue. Besides, u jst called it lab coat not Physician's coat, does that tell u anythg? Be proud of your own profession or if you envy doctors so much and want to treat patients like them, go to medical school. Its open to everyone and am sure nobody will object.I choosed Pharmacy myself because, I like that "complex mechanism." [/quote] |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 3:36pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
JP,I have read your write up and it's obvious on whose camp your are in. Have you taken time to read the 24 demands well. Inasmush as by indications the doctors are the head of the hospital,it doesn't mean they should decide on other health workers issues. Firstly ,your taken on "CONSULTANTS" what JOHESU is saying have had a lot of experience in a particular area and also go further POST GRADUATE studies as in d case of doctors why deny such a person ''consultancy''. Every health worker in a hospital knows his jurisdiction. Secondly, RELATIVITY. what type of RELATIVITY do d doctors want again when they start them from GRADE 12 already. Is that not relativity? Thirdly,CMD/MD:we are all humans,if you have been following this debate hospitals where run by Hospital administrators who are not doctors,Med lab scientist, Nurses etc. don't you think it will be reduce been biased. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by phantom(m): 4:01pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
Sweetliver: JP,I have read your write up and it's obvious on whose camp your are in. Have you taken time to read the 24 demands well. Inasmush as by indications the doctors are the head of the hospital,it doesn't mean they should decide on other health workers issues.no problem. please give us links showing the qualifications required to be a consultant nurse,Pharm or lab tech. secondly give us links showing these people are hospital based in the UK,Australia or the states. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by armadeo(m): 7:24pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
Sweetliver: JP,I have read your write up and it's obvious on whose camp your are in. Have you taken time to read the 24 demands well. Inasmush as by indications the doctors are the head of the hospital,it doesn't mean they should decide on other health workers issues. On many threads I think how the term consultant is arrived at in the hospital setting has been explained, many health workers don't know their jurisdiction. It will only lead to chaos. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by armadeo(m): 7:26pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
phantom: no problem. please give us links showing the qualifications required to be a consultant nurse,Pharm or lab tech. secondly give us links showing these people are hospital based in the UK,Australia or the states. Aren't you tired of asking this question. I have waited and waited for an answer and nobody has provided one yet they still shout consultancy. Anyway if we stop asking they'll think we have forgotten. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 8:40pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
phantom: no problem. please give us links showing the qualifications required to be a consultant nurse,Pharm or lab tech. secondly give us links showing these people are hospital based in the UK,Australia or the states.http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Nursing-Consultant. Just read it dear. If I may ask,Phantom it seems u r a doctor. http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/nursing/careers-in-nursing/nurse-consultants/. This is in UK.. My dear am a computer analyst and I work with doctors mostly,so all we are saying it just every profession to face thier work cos healthcare is a team work. 1 Like |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by phantom(m): 8:49pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
Sweetliver:thank you. a bsc in nursing then a masters with at least 2yrs of work experience. are the nurses in nigeria ready to acquire extra education or training? would it be fair to confer consultancy on a nurse just because she's worked for 30 years + ? I don't think so. secondly your link shows nurse consultants NOT to be HOSPITAL BASED. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 9:01pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
[quote author=phantom]thank you. a bsc in nursing then a masters with at least 2yrs of work experience. are the nurses in nigeria ready to acquire extra education or training? would it be fair to confer consultancy on a nurse just because she's worked for 30 years + ? I don't think so. secondly your link shows nurse consultants NOT to be HOSPITAL I gave you two links ,read the one of NHS,they can still be in the hospital. Maybe you dont know that most nurses now go for extra training..my dear I work in the hospital and know many oo. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by musaak: 9:49pm On Jul 19, 2014 |
[quote author=Sweetliver][/quote]nurse consultant in hospital has a defined role and specific area of training according to your link. The following should be made clear to avoid anarchy in the system. 1. What are the areas in our setting that needed specialist nurse? 2. What is the training program put in place to acheive such level of training and the qualification? 3. What are the exact role they are going to play? Until govt do the needful to answer these questions and then study the template in other part of the world where this practised and how applicable is to our setting, all these struggles and rivalry will not take the healthcare system in nigeria anywhere to envy |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by armadeo(m): 12:00am On Jul 20, 2014 |
[quote author=Sweetliver][/quote] They are in a foundation trust not the hospital setting but you said ' they can still be in the hospital'. So what you want to do is take a person from one setting and plant them in another even when the system you are copying isn't doing such. Also note they are called nurse consultants not consultant nurses. I bet you will ask what the difference is. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 10:26am On Jul 20, 2014 |
musaak: nurse consultant in hospital has a defined role and specific area of training according to your link. The following should be made clear to avoid anarchy in the system. 1. What are the areas in our setting that needed specialist nurse? 2. What is the training program put in place to acheive such level of training and the qualification? 3. What are the exact role they are going to play? Until govt do the needful to answer these questions and then study the template in other part of the world where this practised and how applicable is to our setting, all these struggles and rivalry will not take the healthcare system in nigeria anywhere to envyThanks for your reply. So what is the next step to then.? |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 10:28am On Jul 20, 2014 |
armadeo:Sure I will like to know. But why are you guys not talking about other demands. Are they visible? |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by armadeo(m): 10:51am On Jul 20, 2014 |
Sweetliver: Google is you're friend. What other demands? Is what visible? |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Sweetliver(m): 1:53pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
armadeo:So out of the 24 demands of NMA all u see is the one of consultant abi. U ask for links about d consultants nurse I showed u. So pls just differentiate consultant nurse and nurse consultant. biko. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by armadeo(m): 6:34pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Sweetliver: I responded to the link you posted which is about nurse consultant, not about 24 point agenda . |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by sisinaijayeye0: 7:32pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
Samgreguc: Honestly. Drugs! Which you should be doing in the lab and testing them on lab animals. Not in the hospitals doing ward rounds and clogging up the whole space/place. #peace #onelove! |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by adeoladrg(m): 7:37pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
sisinaijayeye0: We have pharmacologists to take up that role Sorry to burst ur bubble! Pharmaceutical care is actually a patient centred care! |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by sisinaijayeye0: 7:40pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
adeoladrg: Then you should blame your profession for being confused from the start if you knew you would later convert your professions to become doctors you should have implemented it from the start, as you always say doctors aren't better than johesu. So much so u r nt different from a pharmacologist. Wanna be doctor adeola |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by adeoladrg(m): 8:08pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
sisinaijayeye0: I find it hard to believe u're a doctor! You sound like an illiterate!! The pharmacy profession actually started as the apothecaries, just to give you a bit of history incase they didn't teach you in med school.. Apothecaries were pharmacists and doctors all in one. They did diagnosis, prescription, formulation or compounding and dispensing of drugs per individual. Pharmacy got seperated during the fully blown industrial revolution in Europe, can't remember the year! We were just dispensing and compounding.. The era of institutional practice came and then the era of patients centred care. I don't av the time to explain to you, buh the summary is that the profession evolved. That said, patients centred care, going on ward rounds doesn't mean we want to take over the job of the doctors or makes us better than the doctors. Get ur thinking right! And sorry to burst ur bubble again! I always wanted to become a pharmacist 1 Like |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by Samgreguc(m): 11:55pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
sisinaijayeye0:thank God u are honest at this Which you should be doing in the lab and testing them on lab animals.please elucidate. Not in the hospitals doing ward rounds and clogging up the whole space/place. #peace #onelove!thats Clinical Pharmacy and its not medicine because, the play different role there. |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(m): 3:24pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Mastershiffu: Now, I don't fvcking care who you are but you just made my day, well done!! |
Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by jpphilips(m): 3:30pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
jideolubiyi: Arrogance you called it, what column did you fill in your JAMB form? I have never heard where technicians envy or drag titles with Engineers in other sectors, you took a career for fvcks sake, be proud of it, if you are tired of being a JOHESITE, please pass through an accredited medical school, is it too much to ask? |
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