There should be a law in Nigeria that bans all govt officials from seeking medical care outside the country and from sending their kids to study abroad or in private universities,that's the only way they'll take our health n education sector seriously, till then na OYO for the masses

Again, the patient is the victim...

Let the battle begin....

Joenz: A very good move by JOHESU and this will put an end to this very issue that has lingered for far too long.Left to some of us,this would have been done a long time ago.I ask,is anything wrong in NMA and its allied associations vis ARD,MDCAN,ASSOPON etc registering as trade union?We await the decision of the court while reminding the NMA of the its probable humiliation if the court first order that status quo should be maintained.My olive branch to NMA,avert this impending public disgrace now by doing the needful,a stich in time saves nine they say!

aikeron:
My dear shut up if u are too ignorant to talk. Don't u know that NMA is not a registered trade union and therefore doesn't have the constitutional right to negotiate or push for any demands ? If u are to make any argument, make it on this basis and stop ranting. JOHESU have found a loophole on the Doctors' side to explore and they strategizing really well.

Don't be naive. The NMA has everyone over a barrel right now. No matter what happens in the courts, doctors are indispensable and thus will always be listened to. There's no 'big win' for JOHESU here, and I strongly doubt this will end the way they think it will.

Going to court to declare NMA strikes illegal will only serve to increase the tension. We'll see how it goes

Hmm this issue at hand sef. I don't understand either Nma or Johesu. My idea is best the best of who you are and don't suppress other to live alone."I biri oo ibiri kam biri, ibiri oo ibiri kam biri, onye a zona uwa azo uwa oga abata on ye obula,ibiri oo I biriri kam biri"..... The song of the wise...... Live and let's live. My humble submission.

phantom: ......the earlier you realise that JOHESU is inconsequential in this matter, the better for you.
your HOR are busy running helter skelter to save the situation.abi you no see elumelu dey shake like leaf for TV?
let me tell you what will happen.the money will eventually be released WITH APOLOGIES.
the issue of consultancy and directorship will be difficult for JOHESU.already the judg in the matter is hiding because the heat has become too much.
if you have not seen that NMA has the yam and the knife,then.........

Lol Phantom my Phantom,I believe u knw we r already becoming friends on here.Who says JOHESU has issues with the payment of the arrears?Everyone will be paid effective from january for ur info so who cares?On directorship n consultancy status,at least we r making progress,as u av said here,it will be difficult n not d former impossibility.We all wait n see.I also hp ur. Misguided supporters noted how use all manner of corrupt gimmicks to av ur way in d health sector,u jes admitted u guys r putting lotta pressure on d judge,we will see whr it ends.Lest I forget,I saw ur dubious n fraudulent table thead of earning of of d various professionals in the health sector,I can never undastand y u guys no dey fear God.we'll continue following d issues sha.

YourHealthlabs: In another news, Medical Dr. Paul Orhii's NAFDAC failed to remit more than 1 billion naira to federation account.

sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=72556

Did we hear such when Pharm Dora was there?

Hmmm, now tell me why they won't rather die protecting their unmerited portfolios as CMD, NAFDAC heads,Ministries, Director of Kitchen, security etc

It's all about grab..grab..grab for them.

Let astute Health Administrators head our Hospitals. Physicians should concentrate on treating patients. That what they are trained for, not fighting to lord over other health professionals who are also well lettered.

Do we need rocket-science to type the kind of person you are
Highly divisive, hideous creature perverting facts to incite to the most-horrendous end!
Shior!!!
You reek so much of pull-him-down syndrome.
And to think of it, people can't ask questions that these are the crops & manners of dissents compulsorily requesting the medical-consultancy title & CMD position to be relinquished to them?

Now, what has that Dr Paul done to you?
What do you know about public/governmrntal administration and not remitting public funds?
Are you EFCC or ICPC?
Can you just bear the thoughts of a riff-raff sitting in a who-knows somewhere muddying up your name online without any facts?
By the way, your ability to stir division is readily visible from your adding "Medical" before the "Dr" and changing the title of Prof Dora to Pharm.

I just don't understand why the sense of judgment of the populace's majority is skewed?
Can't they just see for themselves the whole facts staring them boldfacedly?
It is the Phantoms of the house who have your time.
You can all rant to the high-heavens.

YourHealthLabs Kóó, Your DeathTrap ni!

drobadebayo:
Sir,permit me to say that u hv impaired reasoning.how could u think like that

So i shld permit u to insult me abi? Ur own reasoning eh.

texazzpete:



Don't be naive. The NMA has everyone over a barrel right now. No matter what happens in the courts, doctors are indispensable and thus will always be listened to. There's no 'big win' for JOHESU here, and I strongly doubt this will end the way they think it will.

Going to court to declare NMA strikes illegal will only serve to increase the tension. We'll see how it goes

lol,keep up with ur larger-than-life delusion holding to ur all-in-all believe.Let the tension increase,it has always been high,we r all in d sector n we will keep up with it

house37:



You are just blabbing.The deserted hospital are indeed a testimony to the fact that majority of the masses now dislike doctors.286 indeed and you think that jamb result with what we all know about jamb and the high probability that you didn't get that score unaided is enough guarantee that you would have sailed through medical school and residency smoothly.

I find it funny coming from you, a doctor because doctors on this forum have on countless times boasted about writing JAMB and getting a pass mark that can get one into meds school..You may have written it cuz you guys can do anything to show that others have irrelevant opinion.

MOBBDEEP:

Do we need rocket-science to type the kind of person you are
Highly divisive, hideous creature perverting facts to incite to the most-horrendous end!
Shior!!!
You reek so much of pull-him-down syndrome.
And to think of it, people can't ask questions that these are the crops & manners of dissents compulsorily requesting the medical-consultancy title & CMD position to be relinquished to them?

Now, what has that Dr Paul done to you?
What do you know about public/governmrntal administration and not remitting public funds?
Are you EFCC or ICPC?
Can you just bear the thoughts of a riff-raff sitting in a who-knows somewhere muddying up your name online without any facts?
By the way, your ability to stir division is readily visible from your adding "Medical" before the "Dr" and changing the title of Prof Dora to Pharm.

I just don't understand why the sense of judgment of the populace's majority is skewed?
Can't they just see for themselves the whole facts staring them boldfacedly?
It is the Phantoms of the house who have your time.
You can all rant to the high-heavens.

YourHealthLabs Kóó, Your DeathTrap ni!

Hehehehe, i was expecting that.
Same "pull-Johesu-down" tactics that is the precursor of the present NMA strike.
Why do you whine when someone beats you at your own game?

You guys should stick to treatment of patients and leave administration to Health administrators. You all can't keep claiming Nigeria has very 'few physicians' and yet the 'few ones' keep running away from patients prefering to create 100 CMAC and DCMAC offices where they can sit in cozy offices and embezzle funds like we have in our health parastatals.

Concentrate on your patients..mr man.

Oduduwaboy: Wetin concern JOHESU inside NMA matter ? They should go and attend to the patients now . Infact , the practice of medicine should be outlawed in Nigeria so that JOHESU members can have the patients to themselves ...with time too if they like they can gradually assume the title 'Dr' & Consultant which they so much covet ! Jobless doctor wannabes !

i just tire for this johesu people,they claim to be consultants in their field,doctors have left the patients for them and gone home, now they are suing doctors over strike action, wetin these people want sef from doctors??

This Johesu guys r not serious, instead of them to prove that doctors r irrelevant now and end this once and for all they're busy sueing them to make them return 2 work though i support them not being paid 4 work not done.

Joenz: Lol Phantom my Phantom,I believe u knw we r already becoming friends on here.Who says JOHESU has issues with the payment of the arrears?Everyone will be paid effective from january for ur info so who cares?On directorship n consultancy status,at least we r making progress,as u av said here,it will be difficult n not d former impossibility.We all wait n see.I also hp ur. Misguided supporters noted how use all manner of corrupt gimmicks to av ur way in d health sector,u jes admitted u guys r putting lotta pressure on d judge,we will see whr it ends.Lest I forget,I saw ur dubious n fraudulent table thead of earning of of d various professionals in the health sector,I can never undastand y u guys no dey fear God.we'll continue following d issues sha.

.......the judge admitted he was under pressure to skew the judgment. he didn't say from what side.
as regards the salary thread,I didn't create it.

Benjamin Chukwunonso Ajufo
THE NIGERIAN HEALTH SECTOR: THE FACE OF
JANUS AND THE MATCH TOWARDS TOPHET!
BY
AJUFO,BENJAMIN CHUKWUNONSO
The Nigerian Health Sector has been in the news for
some time now, as a result of the lingering crisis
that has bedeviled the Sector. The HEALTH sector is
expected to be a place of total wellbeing but why is
there so much hostility in the Sector which has
taken a hydra-headed form? Why is the Sector
matching towards Tophet; the Valley of Destructio

n?
There is so much misinformation, impunity,
violation of Established Rules and Codes of
Conduct. Why is the Place polarized with mistrust,
and disharmony? Why has the Government allowed
herself to become a pawn in the hands of Nigerian
Medical Association (NMA) and Medical and Dental
Consultants Association(MDCAN) which are not
legally recognized Trade Unions ? Why does the
Government allow double Standards within the same
Sector? The government that was able to restrain a
registered Trade Union from going on strike has not
stopped an unregistered body posturing as a Trade
Union. Why has the Government allowed the
Constitution of the Federal Republic, to be violated
by NMA who sees herself as the Imperial Majesty,
who must continue to subjugate other workers in
the Health Sector? Before we bring answers to
these numerous WHYS, let us x-ray the
pathogenesis of the crisis in the Health Sector.
SALARY STRUCTURES IN THE HEALTH SECTOR
Under the then President, His Excellency Alhaji
Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, the Nigerian Government in
2009 had approved two different Salary Structures
in the Health Sector. These two Salary Scales were
known as Consolidated Medical Salary Scale
(CONMESS) and Consolidated Health Salary Scale
(CONHESS).Medical Doctors in the Service of the
Nigerian Civil Service are on CONMESS, while every
other person working in the Health Sector was
placed under the CONHESS structure. Before the
emergence of the late President UMARU MUSA YAR’
ADUA, President Olusegun Obasanjo, had placed all
Nigerian Health Workers under a unified Salary
Scale.NMA had seriously kicked against this unified
Salary Scale. It was NMA that negotiated CONMESS
for her members while the Joint Health Sector
Union (JOHESU), a recognized Trade Union made up
of all Unions in the Health Sector outside Medical
Doctors, negotiated CONHESS for her members.
Below is the two Salary Scales.
CONMESS SALARY SCALE
CONMESS 01----- HOUSE OFFICER/YOUTH CORPS
DOCTOR – Grade Level 10
CONMESS 02----- Registrar/Medical Officer - Grade
Level 12
CONMESS 03----- Senior Registrar Grade 11/Senior
Medical Officer Grade 2 Grade Level 13
CONMESS 04---- - Senior Registrar Grade 1/Senior
Medical Officer Grade 1 Grade level 14
CONMESS 05------ Consultant/Principal Medical
officer Grade 2 Grade Level 15
CONMESS 06------ Consultant Special Grade 2/
Principal Medical Officer Grade 1 Grade Level 16
CONMESS 07-------Consultant Special Grade 1/Chief
Medical Officer Grade Level 17
CONHESS SALARY SCALE
CONHESS 7 INTERNS/NYSC ----------- Grade Level 8
CONHESS 8 X -Officer 1 ----------- Grade Level 9
CONHESS 9 Senior X-Officer ----------- Grade Level 10
CONHESS 11 Principal X- Officer ----------- Grade
Level 12
CONHESS 12 Assistant Chief X-Officer ------------
Grade Level 13
CONHESS 13 Chief X-Officer ------------- Grade Level
14
CONHESS 14 Assistant Director X-Officer ----------
Grade Level 15
CONHESS 15 Deputy Director X-Officer -------------
Grade Level 16
CONHESS 16 Director X-Officer ---------------------Grade
Level 17
THE FACE OF JANUS AND THE MATCH TOWARDS
TOPHET!
In the late 2009, NMA, started a campaign of
calumny, against members of JOHESU , that they
were Skipping, which she alleged as a violation of
Government policy. And they as Medical Doctors are
treated unjustly in the health sector .As shown
above, we have seen that NMA members were the
greatest beneficiary of the Government approved
Salary Scale, with higher entry point and jumbo
pay.NMA was of the opinion that any member of
JOHESU, who had moved from CONHESS 9 -to
CONHESS 11, should be brought down by one grade
level. JOHESU members were unjustly accused of
skipping and the polity was heated up. The Public
Service Rule provides in 020205 and 020205 (e)- To
be eligible for appointment into the Federal Public
Service (e) possess requisite qualifications as
provided for in the scheme of service. The
accusation was faulty because in the Scheme of
Service for JOHESU members, there was nothing
like Grade level 11.In fact it is a misnomer to term
the movement from Grade Level 10 to Grade Level
12 skipping. This is not skipping, because there is
no level 11 and what you have in the Scheme of
Service is movement from Grade level 10 to 12.The
Ministry of Health was seeing through the prism
and binoculars of NMA. She supported the
recommendation subscribed by NMA that all
JOHESU members who have moved from Grade
Level 10 to Grade level 12 should be brought down
by one Grade level. In a circular dated 11th of
January 2010 , with reference number HCSF /EPO/
EIR/RR/B.63755/T1/77 ,the office of the Head of
Service of the Federation stopped the movement of
JOHESU members from Grade 10 to Grade level 12.
About a year later, the Head of Service in a similar
circular dated 10th of February, 2011 with reference
number HCSF/EPO/EIR/63755/T1/149 called the
movement of Workers from Grade 10 to Grade Level
12 an unauthorized Skipping. By June 2011, the
Health Sector was already heated up with drum
beats of war between the Workers under the aegis
of JOHESU and the Nigerian Government
represented by the Ministry of Health. It should be
recalled, that as at June 28th 2010, in a meeting
held at JUTH GUEST HOUSE in Abuja all Chief
Medical Directors and Medical Directors under the
auspices of Committee of Chief Executives, Federal
Tertiary Aspect in Nigeria, unanimously agreed and
released a memo with the reference number
CCEHTH/SEC/V.1/86 on the 29th of June 2010
addressed to all Chief Executives of Federal Health
Institutions. Article 3 on the topic was-
implementation of circular on CONTISS forbidding
skipping of Grade Level 10 or any Grade level. The
decision taken was;-(1) Members decided that by
July this year (2010) all Federal Tertiary Hospital
should have fully implemented the circular with
effect from 1st April 2010.All officers who had
skipped Grade level 10 should be brought down by
one grade level except those occupying the
appointive posts of Director of Administration.(2)To
effect this all CF.Os should simultaneously issue a
circular to all affected staff on the 12th July,2010
informing them of the plan to implement the
circular in July. This memo was signed by M O.
Adeoba for: Chairman CCEFTH. Immediately this
directive was later implemented, the Health Sector
was thrown into chaos, JOHESU gave the
Government ultimatum to change her decisions
which was not workers friendly, but the Government
refused. Moreover the Government failed to
implement agreements signed with JOHESU since
2009. This was now followed with a Strike action by
JOHESU who accused, the Government of not
keeping with the principle of Collective Bargaining.
As a result of the crisis in the health Sector on the
9th of August 2011, The Minister of Labour waded
into the matter, but the Ministry of Health was not
satistisfied by the resolution, and the matter was
later taken to the National Industrial Court for
adjudication. After a legal battle between the
Ministry of Health and JOHESU, the Court ruled in
favour of JOHESU in 2013, that Government was
wrong to have denied JOHESU members her right.
And that JOHESU members appointed Consultants
were wrongfully stopped as consultants. After the
judgment, from nowhere, NMA/MDCAN who were
not a party to the suit, cried foul that the Court
Judgment should not be implemented. They as
usual were the one that hoodwinked the
Government, to have taken the wrong decision that
was upturned by the Court. Suddenly they started
accusing government of favouring JOHESU
members, and that they must skip, even though that
no JOHESU member was skipping. Now that the
Government is trying to muster the courage to do
what is right, NMA/MDCAN has chosen to fight the
Nigerian patients, by denying them services and
declaring a strike action. Note that it is the same
patient they have told the world that they own and
that all their actions is for the best interest of the
patient. Today NMA/MDCAN who insisted that they
must have a different salary structure are the ones
imposing on the Government what other employees
should earn .The same NMA/MDCAN that
wrongfully accused JOHESU members of skipping
and even lost this matter in court is the one, now
championing skipping for her members, even when
doctors scheme of service does not grant such.
What a double standard!
NMA/MDCAN AND CALCULATED SABOTAGE.
Since July 1st 2014,NMA AND MDCAN have denied
patients the right to treatment even when the
National Industrial Court had ruled that all parties
involved should maintain status quo ante. Dr
Obembe the leader of NMA, who also happens to be
a member of MDCAN has continued to defy Court
orders under the guise that it is MDCAN that went
to Court. One is forced to ask, “Is Dr Obembe not a
member of MDCAN”? Again, does NMA have the
moral justification to call for strike when she is not
a Trade Union? Can NMA go on strike on an issue
that is already before a Court of competent
jurisdiction? How does NMA think that the
Government will be negotiating with her on an issue
before the Court? MDCAN in a calculated ploy to
deceive the Nigerian populace came on air to
declare that they are not on strike and that they are
not joining NMA in the strike action. The truth of
the matter is that MDCAN is on strike they are not
on ground, and they are not working. MDCAN and
her fellow consultants, who have so designated
themselves as the owner of the patients, have
abandoned the patient they say they own. On the so
called minimal achievable demand, NMA should be
told in clear terms that they are not achievable. In
the immortal words of the erudite Justice Niki Tobi,
JCA ( as he then was) “when an issue is before a
Court of competent jurisdiction, even though it takes
time, the parties must wait ,they must not jump the
gun, they cannot go for self help” What NMA is
doing now is self help and transfer of aggression on
the innocent patients they have acclaimed to own.
The issues raised by NMA/MDCAN are before a
court, so negotiations and decisions cannot be
taking on such matters.
NMA/MDCAN strike is a strike of Prejudice and Ego
trip, and Government should be firm to stop this
hydra-headed problem. The Members of the
National Assembly and the Government should not
cave in to the blackmail by NMA/MDCAN. They
must be firm to make NMA/MDCAN see that their
actions are against the state. This is the only way
to make NMA/MDCAN amenable to the laws of the
land and eschew impunity. The Government should
know that Nigerians and indeed the world is
watching! JOHESU members account over 95% of
the Healthcare work force, so the Government must
be careful not to be seen to show favoritism. But
must stand on the pedestal of equity and justice to
call a spade a spade. The agitation by NMA/
MDCAN that only they should be Directors, Hospital
Chief Executives, and Consultants should be
jettisoned in a jiffy. This is because such demands
are not supported by any statute in Nigeria. If one
is to use the principle of balance of convenience,
how does appointing other healthcare experts as
Directors, Consultants in their specialized
disciplines, affect members of NMA/MDCAN? Even
when the different approved scheme of service, for
all these professionals, allows them to reach the
zenith of their career and recognizes such
appointments. How does it affect NMA/MDCAN?.
NMA/MDCAN should know that the other Healthcare
Workers are not a conquered people and that the
hospital is not their capitalist empire. The hospital
is a government parastatals set by law and must
operate within the confines of the law setting it
up.NMA/MDCAN should throw away the toga of
medical capitalism and imperialism by embracing
medical humanism. A Physician is expected to be
compassionate, and service oriented devoid of
prejudice. NMA/MDCAN should go and study the
preamble to the declaration of Independence of the
United States of America, composed in 1776 which
reads thus, “We hold these truth to be self-evident
that all men are created equal, that they are
endowed by their creator with certain inalienable
rights; that among these are life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness” So do all medical personnel in
the health sector who is not an allopathic physician
do affirm. NMA/MDCAN should know that for a
nation to excel, it must be build on equality of all
men, rights of life, liberty and pursuit of
happiness.NMA/MDCAN are not the employers of
the Nigerian Health Workers, so she cannot decide
what Nigerian Health Workers get. The issue of
relativity is unfounded and has no basis on any
Nigerian Statute book even indeed world over. No
professional’s wage bill is determined by the wage
bill of another, but by Governments’ Terms of
Appointment into the Service.
On the floor of the Nigerian National Assembly,
when, the incumbent Minister of Health, Prof
Onyebuchi Chukwu ,was being screened to become
a Minister, he was asked, “how would he maintain
peace in the health sector that has been so laden
with interprofessional disharmony?”. The Minister
answered that he would do all it takes to bring
harmony into the sector. Again, he was also asked,
“what are his views that only one professional
group is the one virtually in control in the health
sector and that other healthcare professionals are
not so involved in leadership of the System?”. The
Min. of Health again answered; that “we will get
there that it is a gradual process that things are
changing.” To the Most HIGH be the glory that the
Hon Minister told the world ,that his action of
stopping the consultancy status of other health
workers, was as a result of the complain made by
NMA. It is on the same issue, that the National
Industrial Court has said that, that action was in
error, a violation of workers right to collective
bargain. Now that the Hon. Min. of Health has
started seeing that NMA/MDCANS’ actions, are in
bad faith, he must be firm to right the structural
injustices in the Health Sector. So that he would
have lived up to his words, “that he would do
everything in his power to bring harmony in the
health sector.” The crisis in the health sector has
gotten to where it is today, because of the over
bearing attitude of some allopathic physicians, who
have forgotten that medicine is the art, act and
science of healing, whose scope is beyond
allopathic medicine. It is highly unfortunate that
NMA/MDCAN leadership personified in the person of
Dr Obembe has suddenly forgotten that the word
medical is an adjective which means related to the
art, act and science of healing. A situation, where
allopathic physicians in a false mindset sees only
themselves as being medical and other healthcare
experts as non medical breeds/creates a wrong
image. The future allopathic physicians must be
nursed and nurtured to have a mind set of medical
humanism to give a good medical image that does
not thrive on rancor, falsehood and a doctored
ideology. The word medical is not a synonym for a
doctor, for if it were, it would not be seen placed in
front of the word doctor as in the term “medical
doctor” for that will be tautology. Every healthcare
professional involved with the act, art and science
related to healing are all medical personnel. So the
word medical is not an exclusive term to designate
allopathic physicians but all that is involved with
healing and healthcare services.
Conclusion
Now that it is so glaring that NMA/MDCAN strike is
sabotage against the state, because they are
causing untold hardship to the citizens of Nigeria.
This as a result of their ego driven demands. And
have failed to obey Government orders, because
most hospital Chief Executives being members of
MDCAN are in sympathy with them. They have
failed to call NMA/MDCAN to order to suspend the
strike, even when there is a court order. As a result
of the death of Nigerians, based on this sabotage,
the Federal Government should invoke the powers
conferred on her in section 18(1) and 18(2) of
University Teaching Hospitals (Reconstruction of
Boards, etc) Act CAP 463 LFN which states 18(1)
“The President may, notwithstanding any provision
of this Act, take such measures as occasion may
warrant in order to improve the efficiency or due
administration of the teaching hospitals specified in
the Schedule to this Act.”
18(2) “ For the purpose of section (1 )of this
section, the President may appoint or give such
authority for the appointment of Military
Commandments to take charge of administration of
any of the teaching hospitals specified in this Act
for such period as may be stipulated in the
authority.
Again, section 19 of the act, on the definition of
hospital states “Hospital includes all institutions
(however called) controlled by the board.”
Government should as a matter of urgency bring
sanity into the system by making sure; that this
sabotage by allopathic doctors is stopped. The
Government should declare their actions illegal. As
the Health Sector moves towards TOPHET a symbol
of collapse, we must do all it takes to salvage her,
by doing what is right!
AJUFO,BENJAMIN CHUKWUNONSO. WRITES FROM
ASABA IS the Secretary Association of Medical
laboratory Scientists Delta State Branch.
16/7/14

pendusky: I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I
take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to
my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art ;
to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods
with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach
them this art; and that by my teaching, I will impart a knowledge of
this art to my own sons, and to my teacher's sons, and to disciples
bound by an indenture and oath according to the medical laws, and
no others.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to
my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any
such counsel; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to
cause an abortion .
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is
manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners,
specialists in this art .
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my
patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all
seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or
men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession
or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread
abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art,
respected by all humanity and in all times; but if I swerve from it or
violate it, may the reverse be my life.

HIPPOCRATIC OAT TAKEN BY PHYSICIANS!

Medical Doctors no longer take the Hippocratic Oath during their induction since 1948. The oath they take now is called "The Declaration of Geneva (Physicians' Oath)" which is heavily modified/ revised from the original Hippocratic Oath to accommodate modern day medicine. For one, modern Doctors cannot be swearing to Greek gods (as was found in the Hippocratic Oath). Link below.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Geneva

benghaziii: Some peepz are so foolish..nurses n other johesu members don't deserve to be called consultants...thats why dey call senior nurses MATRON OR PATRON if is a male...what else do they want...
This is a total jealousy laden inferiority complex...
A nurse will now tell a patient that she is a consultant n will leave the nurse"title outta it..n will keep managing patients wrongly

you have just shown to the world your level of understanding. You don't deserve to be a doctor!!!

benghaziii: Some peepz are so foolish..nurses n other johesu members don't deserve to be called consultants...thats why dey call senior nurses MATRON OR PATRON if is a male...what else do they want...
This is a total jealousy laden inferiority complex...
A nurse will now tell a patient that she is a consultant n will leave the nurse"title outta it..n will keep managing patients wrongly

you have just shown to the world your level of understanding. I pity the patients!!!

JOHESU needs to keep off this NMA vs FG matter else d matter will simply be elongated and injurious to the public.

pendusky: I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I
take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to
my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art ;
to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods
with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach
them this art; and that by my teaching, I will impart a knowledge of
this art to my own sons, and to my teacher's sons, and to disciples
bound by an indenture and oath according to the medical laws, and
no others.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to
my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any
such counsel; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to
cause an abortion .
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is
manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners,
specialists in this art .
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my
patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all
seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or
men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession
or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread
abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art,
respected by all humanity and in all times; but if I swerve from it or
violate it, may the reverse be my life.

HIPPOCRATIC OAT TAKEN BY PHYSICIANS!

pendusky: I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I
take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to
my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art ;
to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods
with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach
them this art; and that by my teaching, I will impart a knowledge of
this art to my own sons, and to my teacher's sons, and to disciples
bound by an indenture and oath according to the medical laws, and
no others.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to
my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any
such counsel; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to
cause an abortion .
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is
manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners,
specialists in this art .
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my
patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all
seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or
men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession
or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread
abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art,
respected by all humanity and in all times; but if I swerve from it or
violate it, may the reverse be my life.

HIPPOCRATIC OAT TAKEN BY PHYSICIANS!

YourHealthlabs:

Hehehehe, i was expecting that.
Same "pull-Johesu-down" tactics that is the precursor of the present NMA strike.
Why do you whine when someone beats you at your own game?

You guy should stick to treatment of patients and leave administration to Health administrators. You all can't keep claiming Nigeria has very 'few physicians' and yet the 'few ones' keep running away from patients prefering to create 100 CMAC and DCMAC offices where they can sit in cozy offices and embezzle funds like we have in our health parastatals.

Concentrate on your patients..mr man.

...No. We can not allow mediocres masquerading as Hospital Administrator to rule over us in the Hospitals. As much as it is Academics that are VCs , provosts , Deans & Sub-deans in the Universities so shall MEDICAL DOCTORS continue to be Chief Medical Directors, CMACs , DCMAS in the Hospitals. We prefer the American paradigm of CMD/ CEO in heading our hospitals. Even the British system where the office of CEO is separated from that of CMD is changing ....

We doctors are unapologetically the first among 'equals' in this sector . Suck this up!

Na wa o. Meanwhile people are dying...

by taking NMA to court they have tactically agreed that the doctor is the head.simple!
the truth is, even if NMA looses in all the courts in this world,this same Govt will still beg.
value wins at the end of the day.undoubtedly NMA is the most valuable body in healthcare.fact! your government knows it. after they try all the tricks in the book,they will nicodemously sign agreements with NMA and implement them just like ASUU.
like I said,this strike will be called of when we all enter the stage of ACCEPTANCE.

the hospitals have been left for you.
pharmacists are working
nurses are working
lab technologists are on ground
radiographers are on ground
physiotherapists are on ground
admin and accounts are on ground
cooks,porters and cleaners are working
gatemen,security and generator guys are on ground
mosquitoes,roaches and rats are active

......yet the hospitals are drier than the sahara because doctors are absent.

johesu have been given the opportunity to put the arrogant doctors to shame BUT even with all their heads put together,no single patient wants to take the risk.....
.....

thuao: The battle in health sector has taken another turn as johesu has sued nma over the illegality of their strike

http://www.punchng.com/news/johesu-sues-nma-says-doctors-strike-illegal/

I tire for johesu o!!!!! Nurses, lab hommies, and the rest of them, said that "what can a doctor do, that they can't do?"..... Doctors have left the hospitals for johesu to run, yet johesu still dey complain! Wetin una want? Shey una wan be consultants Make una begin consult naa, una no gree.......

RedBenson:

Lol. Rain don dey spoil show for person here over the last 4days.

This Doctors strike is a deliberate attempt to pull patients to thier private clinic. This is very true. I have relations who own private clinics and they can attest to increased patronage in thier clinics this striking period.

No sir, the strike is no delibrate attempt for doctors to draw patients to private hospitals! The business of private hospitals will always thrive in Nigeria even when there is no NMA strike. Naturally, there is an increase in patronage as a result of this strike; that is understandable, but the private practictioners are the ones enjoying the windfall and not really the striking doctors.
I hope you are aware that not all doctors have private clinics and not all doctors are into locum!

house37:



You are just blabbing.The deserted hospital are indeed a testimony to the fact that majority of the masses now dislike doctors.286 indeed and you think that jamb result with what we all know about jamb and the high probability that you didn't get that score unaided is enough guarantee that you would have sailed through medical school and residency smoothly.

Ain't u just a pathetic sadist? To think that of all the points I made, u could choose to have a problem with my JAMB score shows how daft you are. I come from a family where everyone has striking brilliance upstairs. Maybe if I told u I also graduated top of my class as a pharmacist, u would say the university or my faculty also "aided" me. Anyway, I am not here to brag about my academic achievements , you don't know me neither do I know u...Although if I were to guess who u are, I would say u are just some scumbag whose mindset has been infected with the typical Nigerian notion that one cannot achieve a feat in life without being "aided". How sad!!!
I will advise we address the issues at hand boldly with facts in reality and no sentiments. So if u don't mind u can kindly go back to the points I raised and attack them one by one. That's an assignment, please run along.

Oduduwaboy:

...No. We can not allow mediocres masquerading as Hospital Administrator to rule over us in the Hospitals. As much as it is Academics that are VCs , provosts , Deans & Sub-deans in the Universities so shall MEDICAL DOCTORS continue to be Chief Medical Directors, CMACs , DCMAS in the Hospitals. We prefer the American paradigm of CMD/ CEO in heading our hospitals. Even the British system where the office of CEO is separated from that of CMD is changing ....

We doctors are unapologetically the first among 'equals' in this sector . Suck this up!

Well you can scream your head off in your attempt to deceive the unsuspected populace but it won't stand.

Let me give you a suggestion-Find a way to ban other Nigerians from using the internet and make the internet an exclusive preserve of the Allopathic physicians. I think it will fit in well as the 100th demand on NMA's long list of agenda so can successfully sell your lies.
We are not in North korea my brother.

It is no longer uhuru for the lies you sell to corner unmerited gains, you've been demystified, knowledge is now a few keystrokes away.
The wind of positive change as initiatied by 95% of Health professionals has come to stay , stand on it way and get blown off.

gabicon: JOHESU needs to keep off this NMA vs FG matter else d matter will simply be elongated and injurious to the public.

Don't mind them. JOHESU should learn to sow their cloth where it's torn and get the H- out of NMA vs FG ish!

Bertbert: Doctors are becoming so irresponsible,now they will know that they have started a fight that they cant finish fighting,what are they feeling like sef? Government should introduce NO WORK NO PAY to them....nonsense they feel other professions are not important.

.........tell dem bro!if na jst meeeee I will be doin like I don't kia.....2face said it