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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by DebateNigeria: 12:10pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Thank God... This is what I have been saying. Proscribe NMA and JOHESU, then privatize the health sector. Health managers will do a better job. God bless Nigeria. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 12:13pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
phantom: please go and find out how much st Nicholas and reddington pay their doctors. Yes you will get what you want when the health sector is fully privatized then all this rubbish will stop. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by nationwide24: 12:17pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Dragonking:Oya, mention 10 private schools in each geopolitical zone that pay graduate 200k and above. I dey wait o. Even private schools with most outrageous school fees pay peanut salaries even in here in Abuja. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by DebateNigeria: 12:20pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
jideolubiyi: If you see what I'm seeing, Nigerians and the government are in a very terrible fix. If you give in to NMA's demands, JOHESU will immediately down their tools and then the government will also have to accede to their demands and NMA will again be compelled to take to the streets...And on and on. You get my drift? Our health system has now entered a vicious cycle, a cycle that can be stopped only by Nigerians and our government take strong and decisive steps regardless of whose ox is gored.OMG..... What a beautiful write up. I don't know you, but something tells me you are a great mind. I support every bit of your write up. 4 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by oyeludef(m): 12:23pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
500GP:does it occur to u dat both parties have diametrically opposite demands? 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Arosam(m): 12:26pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
nationwide24: No need for google here. Everyone knows it. In hospital environment, d term "doctor" is exclusively for medical doctors to avoid confusion. Or you mean we should have doctor pharmacy technicians, doctor theatre attendant, doctor lab scientist, etc. Hospital has different Departments, a patient knows that a pharmacy dept will be hosted by a pharmacist, so is other DEPT. Patients are not ignorant as you think 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 12:33pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
500GP: How much was the price of fuel before OBJ entered into power and how much was it after he left? Also you lie again as there were several protest against OBJ continuous increment of fuel but the arrogant he-goat didn't even bother to heed to the peoples demand. Infact during OBJ reign there were more strikes as NLC was well known during OBJ reign. Nigerians suffered during OBJ reign that when stella died people were happy that karma has visted him. Nobody was satisfied with OBJ bossy nature . As for threaten every Nigerian knows OBJ to as wicked to the extent that he established efcc to pursue whoever that didnt support his third term campaign. OBJ didnt threaten anyone according to you but sent troops to kill and destroy a whole village. If it was GEJ that did half of what OBJ did we all know what you will call him. Read here and see that OBJ failed to curb the crisis in plateau state that has esclated into GEJ reign http://m.irinnews.org/report/49927/nigeria-obasanjo-declares-state-of-emergency-in-plateau-state Did you say anything then? OBJ was even a terror to his own son after sleeping with his son's wife. what president and father can do such? ANS:Only OBJ can. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 12:36pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
nationwide24: Oya, mention 10 private schools in each geopolitical zone that pay graduate 200k and above. I dey wait o. Even private schools with most outrageous school fees pay peanut salaries even in here in Abuja. I asked you a question first which you didnt reply. Please does private hospital pay hazard fee to doctors and if so how much?. You can also mention 10 private hospital in each geopolitical zone that pays hazard fee to doctors..me sef don wait tire. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by kel4soft: 12:50pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Solutions not more confusion. How will privatization of our health institution help us out? Kerison Hospital and Maxilofacial Hospital are Rivers State property but a foreign firm is managing them. Medical services are usually free for registered health centres patients referred to by the doctors cos the state govt still fund those hospitals. If the privatization will be like the Rivers model. Then, I support it 100% but if is like PHCN privatization. Forget it, let the rot continue. Doctors please help out. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Oduduwaboy(m): 12:54pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Decibel: Excellent move!!Those organisations are willing tools in the hands of the oppositions; they are also worse than Boko HaramYou are a very funny boy. Must everything always be about the opposition? You dont need all this paranoia about APC. Or are you being paid to be this ridiculous? Anyway, i also believe the way forward in the Health sector is a phased privatization of all the services. Nigeria can't just go on like this. The downside however is that it will once again make the rich richer and the poor can no more access tertiary health care as needed. This is the way to go sha! 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 1:07pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Dragonking: THEY PRICE OF THE FUEL PUMP DURING AND AFTER OBJ'S REGIME WAS BETWEEN 65- 75 NAIRA PER LITRE. THERE WAS NO INCESSANT PROTEST DURING OBJ'S REGIME NEITHER THERE WAS INCESSANT INCREASE IN THE FUEL PRICE. NIGERIANS DIDN'T SUFFER DURING OBJ'S REGIME. THERE WAS PEACE, THE ECONOMY WAS FAVOURABLE SECURITY (PEACE) - DURING OBJ'S REGIME ,THERE WAS PEACE. SECURITY IN NIGERIA WAS IN GOOD SHAPE, NO FORM OF ATTACK ON ALL THE CITIZENRY FROM ANY INSURGENT GROUP. OBJ DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY WHERE THERE WAS BREAK DOWN OF GOVERNMENT RULE.E.G. STATE OF EMERGENCY IN BAYELSA, PLATEAU, EKITI ECONOMY - OBJ PAID OFF NIGERIA'S DEBT.. HE PAVED WAY FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATION THROUGH THIS MORE MONEY WAS MADE INTO FEDERATION ACCOUNT. CORRUPTION - OBJ'S DEALT WITH CORRUPT LEADERS DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM HIS PARTY. HE ESTABLISHED EFCC. OBJ was even a terror to his own son after sleeping with his son's wife. what president and father can do such? ANS:Only OBJ can. THIS JUST A POSTULATION WITHOUT PROOFS TO BACK IT UP. CAN YOU PROVIDE PROOFS TO WHAT YOU WROTE ABOVE? WHAT'S THE CURRENT PRICE OF FUEL? IS THERE ADEQUATE PROTECTION PRESENTLY IN NIGERIA? HAS NIGERIA NOT INCURRED DEBT IN THIS PRESENT ADMINISTRATION? IS THERE JOB EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS PRESENT ADMINISTRATION? OF COURSE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE YOUTHS THAT DIED DURING IMMIGRATION SERVICE EXAMINATION IS THERE NO HIGH LEVEL OF CORRUPTION IN THIS PRESENT ADMINISTRATION? |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Oduduwaboy(m): 1:12pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
echarlz:Modicum of truth. Privatise Healthcare thus bringing in market competition inta-professionally and among health facilities; eventually we will begin to have quality 21st century hospitals. The rivalry among the health care professionals is as a result of the 'national -cake' mentality ; it must end! A truely privatised system will determine who earns what and how much, it will also reduce an over-bloated workforce and ensure quality of professionals. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Arsenate(m): 1:13pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
nationwide24: I don't think the NMA demands are unrealistic outrightly. For example, is it not ridiculous to mention hazard allowance as 5k for doctors? Is it right to call every worker in the hospital doctor? Meaning even cleaners and attendants will be called doctors. Also, we will now have pharmacy technicians, consultant lab scientist. Come to think of it, NMA demands are genuine, fair and very realistic.where was it said cleaners will be called doctors? no need to exaggerate in order to pass across your message, sir. what most health workers are fighting for is the right to rise to the pinnacle of their careers as is obtainable in saner countries. if our society isn't one filled with ego, sentiments and pettiness, it's a very welcomed move. it simply means we will have better trained pharmacist, nurses, radiographers etc all working with the doctors FOR THE GOOD OF THE PATIENT. but what do I know. 3 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by GENTLETEE(m): 1:18pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
The unions have become so problematic and constitute a selfish bunch. If they will not desist from further strikes then They all should be proscribed, really fed up with them. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by leofab(f): 1:23pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
500GP:deluded goat 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by emog17(m): 1:29pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
sogodihno: I av to disagree on one point sir: Medical is not restricted to doctors, because if it's restricted to doctors, den d word "medical doctor" will b tautology. Tanksstop writing nonsense here if u dnt have reasonable thing to write. The word Medical is restricted to doctors alone. While medical doctor is used is to differentiate it frm other people dat makes use of dat title 'doctor' such as ph.D, pharm.D, optometrist, herbalists, etc. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 1:29pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
leofab: deluded goat LAMENTATION OF LEOFAB |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 1:41pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
500GP: You are now a confirmed liar!!! OBJ increased the price of fuel on several occasions which are: 2000 Olusegun Obasanjo(civilian) N20.00 82% 2000 Olusegun Obasanjo N22.00 10% 2001 Olusegun Obasanjo N26.00 18% 2003 Olusegun Obasanjo N40.00 54% 2004 Olusegun Obasanjo N45.00 13% 2007 Olusegun Obasanjo N70.00 56% I dont even want to mention the fact that OBJ also increased the price of fuel during the military regime. Now if you add all the increment you will discover that OBJ increased the price of fuel to about 250%. I have never seen any president as heartless as OBJ..Lets not forget the historic police mutiny ever in Nigeria over condition of services was equally recorded under Obasanjo administration. Nigerians suffered seriously under OBJ regime but there were limitations compared to now. Then there were hardly any social media forums or sites, no online newspaper, no proper passage of OBJ mutiny in the media etc... On the issue of security you lie again. Ifact the country security defences started dwindling to the extent that people started to hire OPC and Bakassi boys as security men. OPC and bakassi became prominent due to OBJ failure in securing the lives of the people. Also read this: http://m.irinnews.org/report/49927/nigeria-obasanjo-declares-state-of-emergency-in-plateau-state and you will find out how OBJ failed again to secure the lives of innocent nigerians in the country that the Human Rights Watch issued a report which criticised the Obasanjo administration for failing to address the cycle of violence that lead to the latest Plateau State killings. So where was the security? About corruption, do you know the height of OBJ corrupt actions? how long do you want to lie to protect OBJ? Even tunde bakare who was running alongside buhari as a presidential aspirant this year stated clearly that corruption was worse during OBJ regime..read here: http://www.punchng.com/news/corruption-worsened-under-obasanjo-bakare/ Let me highlight some of what bakare said: He said, “Media was censored, outspoken critics were targeted and judicial decisions were subjected to executive interpretations. Meanwhile, Obasanjo himself raised the mountain of corruption to an unimaginable level. “As apathy set in among the electorate, General Obasanjo, indignant that he could not foist third term agenda on Nigeria, imposed sick president on the nation through a fraudulent election, I beg your pardon, selection, overseen by Prof. Maurice Iwu.” He said Obasanjo’s supposed achievement in office had no significant impact on the people’s lives. So what did OBJ achieve? Nothing Also, did you just ask me to proof that obasanjo sleept with his sons wife? I hope u arent sick like OBJ. Anyways here is the proof as gbenga obasanjo came out himself to report his shameful father to the world http://saharareporters.com/2008/01/13/my-father-made-love-my-wife-—gbenga-obasanjo and http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/15684-abomination-daddy-slept-my-wife-gbenga-obasanjo.html |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by timowale: 1:42pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
[quote author=musaak] it is used that way to distinguish doctors that that treat medical ailment from other doctors such as academic doctors in the university with phd degree.[/quote in that case,there was no need to put medical together with doctor otherwise we ought to have as well academic doctors...... medical doctors my foot! |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by kinguwem: 1:49pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hon. Ndudi Elumelu is not a physician. He's a lab. scientist. Privatization of hospitals will be beneficial to most doctors, detrimental to most paramedics & expensive to patients. The FG & the Health Minister should be held responsible for the prolonged crisis because they are not doing things right. Everybody knows how hospitals are managed abroad, then why is the situation different in Nigeria. If the paramedics can do the work of doctors, why are they no patients in the hospitals. There is no sincerity of purpose in this country. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by myspnigeria: 1:52pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
nice move |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 2:26pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Dragonking: COMPARE THE CURRENT PRICE OF FUEL TO THAT OF OBJ'S PRICE DURING HIS ADMNISTRATION GEJ: EARLY 2013 - #170+ 2014 - #97 OBJ: #70 YARADUA: #65 CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE ? THE PRICE INCREASED ASTRONOMICALLY IN THIS PRESENT ( GEJ'S) ADMINISTRATION On the issue of security you lie again. Ifact the country security defences started dwindling to the extent that people started to hire OPC and Bakassi boys as security men. OPC and bakassi became prominent due to OBJ failure in securing the lives of the people. STOP LYING. WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HIRING OPC /BAKASSI? YOU MEAN COMMON MAN ON THE STREET OF NIGERIA ARE HIRING THEM. STOP SPEWING TRASH ... . Nigerians suffered seriously under OBJ regime but there were limitations compared to now. I LIKE THIS STATEMENT WHICH YOU WROTE. THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING OBJ'S EFFORT. DURING OBJ'S REGIME, HE PROSECUTED TAFA BALOGUN (HIS KINSMAN ), JAMES IBORI, ALAMESEIGHA FOR CORRUPT PRACTICES. HAS GEJ PROSECUTED ANYBODY INDICTED OF CORRUPTION? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE #? TODAY ODUAH, ALLISON MADUEKE ,ABBA MORO ARE STILL WALKING FREE WITHOUT BEEN PROSECUTE |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Noblewife(m): 2:31pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Abeg,make this doctor's enter because those they examine before strike are dying oo. We beg now. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 2:34pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Dragonking: OBJ PAID OF NIGERIA'S DEBT. HE PAVED WAY FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS WHICH IS STILL GENERATING INCOME INTO THE FEDERATION ACCOUNT. IN THE ANALYSIS OF NIGERIA GDP BY TURN EXPERT , TELECOMMUNICATIONS CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY TO IT CAN YOU COMPARE OBJ STATE OF EMERGENCY TO GEJ STATE OF EMERGENCY ? WHICH OF THE EMERGENCY IS EFFECTIVE? SO YOU CAN BELIEVE SAHARAREPORTERS? WHEN SAHARA REPORT ANY NEWS AGAINST GEJ, YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT. YOU WILL SAY IT'S YORUBA HANDBAG. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Amhappy(f): 2:57pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Good move by FG but not so quick. First of all let NMA and JOHESU have their own national conference for six weeks and work out a standard operating procedure for the health sector. If after six weeks they fail to agree,the organisations should be disolved qed. The health sector doesnt not generate any revenue for Nigerian economy even when Nigeria have some of the best doctors in the world. Its time for change. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by benghaziii: 3:18pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
nawahaaaaaaaaa. privatization... will favour doctors more...there will be total job descriptions n specifications which will in turn put the doctors at d top.. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Arosam(m): 3:29pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
benghaziii: nawahaaaaaaaaa. Where the Doctors at the bottom before?, or where other health workers earning more than them ? "what a baseless deduction". |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Bimpe29: 3:38pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hmn! The era of sincerity lingers on. Hmn! The era of sincerity lingers on. |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Zeus777: 5:00pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Amhappy: Good move by FG but not so quick. First of all let NMA and JOHESU have their own national conference for six weeks and work out a standard operating procedure for the health sector. If after six weeks they fail to agree,the organisations should be disolved qed. The health sector doesnt not generate any revenue for Nigerian economy even when Nigeria have some of the best doctors in the world. Its time for change.u can't dissolve NMA it"s an homogenous body. But Ofcourse u can dissolve JOHESU Into it's constituents viz a viz it's union. Let's know who is fighting for what amongst them. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Zeus777: 5:05pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Arosam:he just explained his own take on privatization ...YOU what is your on take on PRIVATIZATION OF GOVT HOSPITAL? |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 5:08pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
500GP: Guy i know you are ashamed now since you have been exposed of your lies but come you go school at all? GEJ increased fuel from N69 to about N97 now..Thats not even up to 50% but OBJ increased fuel from about N20 to N70 thats a whopping 250%increment. How wicked can one be? May the gods punish OBJ for this evil. On OPC and security there is nothing to argue with you anymore because you dont argue with facts. OPC and bakassi started offering security services during OBJ failed regime. If OBJ didnt fail OPC wont even be recognized by the masses. READ HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/2401/opc-oduduwa-peoples-congress to see more about why people hire OPC and other vigilante services during OBJ failed tenure you this liar. OBJ never persecuted anyone genuinely. He only persecuted people that didnt support his third term ambition. If GEJ was to probe anyone he should start with OBJ and Atiku for their involvement in PTDF scam, PHCN scam, etc..READ HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/122838/col-umar-obasanjo-corruption and here http://elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/20009-obasanjo-s-monumental-corruption-exposed GEJ hinted in his letter that Obasanjo was involved in the Siemens and Halliburton scams , yet he is protecting him. see here http://www.punchng.com/i-punch/nigerians-dare-jonathan-to-prosecute-obasanjo/ OBJ $16bn power scam http://www.eftngr.com/opal/analysis/46-comment/605-16bn-power-scam-who-will-probe-obasanjo It is a pity you have choose to celebrate a bonifide criminal SMH |
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 5:53pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Dragonking: ALL ALLEGATION WITH NO PROOFS TO SUBSTANTIATE IT. THE PRICE OF FUEL DURING OBJ'S REGIME IS #75 GEJ'S REGIME - #150+/ 97. CAN YOU SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE ISSUE CLEAR. TODAY, WITHOUT THE HELP OF OBJ, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE PHONES, TABLETS, LAPTOPS...... WHY CAN'T GEJ PROSECUTE HIM? WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HIRING OPC AND BAKASI? IS IT ORDINARY NIGERIANS WITH LOW INCOME OR LIVING ON WAGES ARE HIRING THE OPC / BAKASI? THE LEVEL OF SECURITY DURING OBJ'S REGIME WAS TIGHT. THERE WAS PEACE. NO FORM OF INSURGENCY. WHERE THERE WAS FORM OF INSURGENCY, HE DEALT WITH IT EFFECTIVELY. NIGERIA MILITARY IS NOW A SHADOW OF ITSELF COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS DURING OBJ'S REGIME. IT'S A SHAME THAT BOKOHARAM SENT MILITARY PERSONNEL OUT IF THEIR STRONGHOLD (BARRACKS) YOU MEAN OBJ PERSUTED TAFA, JAMES IBORI, ALAMESEIGHA BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT HIS THIRD TERM AMBITION? GEJ HAS TAINTED,TARNISHED THE IMAGE,REPUTATION OF NIGERIA THROUGH HIS ADMINISTRATION? DURING OBJ'S REGIME, AMERICA DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH NIGERIA GOVERNMENT UNNECESSARILY UNLIKE GEJ'S......... GEJ - IF $20B IS MISSING AMERICA WILL KNOW. CORRUPTION IS NOT STEALING. |
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