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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 6:01pm On Jul 27, 2014
500GP:

ALL ALLEGATION WITH NO PROOFS TO SUBSTANTIATE IT.

THE PRICE OF FUEL DURING OBJ'S REGIME IS #75

GEJ'S REGIME - #150+/ 97. CAN YOU SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE ISSUE CLEAR.

TODAY, WITHOUT THE HELP OF OBJ, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE PHONES, TABLETS, LAPTOPS......

WHY CAN'T GEJ PROSECUTE HIM?

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HIRING OPC AND BAKASI? IS IT ORDINARY NIGERIANS WITH LOW INCOME OR LIVING ON WAGES ARE HIRING THE OPC / BAKASI?

THE LEVEL OF SECURITY DURING OBJ'S REGIME WAS TIGHT. THERE WAS PEACE. NO FORM OF INSURGENCY. WHERE THERE WAS FORM OF INSURGENCY, HE DEALT WITH IT EFFECTIVELY.

NIGERIA MILITARY IS NOW A SHADOW OF ITSELF COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS DURING OBJ'S REGIME.
IT'S A SHAME THAT BOKOHARAM SENT MILITARY PERSONNEL OUT IF THEIR STRONGHOLD (BARRACKS)

YOU MEAN OBJ PERSUTED TAFA, JAMES IBORI, ALAMESEIGHA BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT HIS THIRD TERM AMBITION?

GEJ HAS TAINTED,TARNISHED THE IMAGE,REPUTATION OF NIGERIA THROUGH HIS ADMINISTRATION?

DURING OBJ'S REGIME, AMERICA DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH NIGERIA GOVERNMENT UNNECESSARILY UNLIKE GEJ'S.........


GEJ - IF $20B IS MISSING AMERICA WILL KNOW. CORRUPTION IS NOT STEALING.

I have posted several evidences against Obj and you are yet to post one single link to counter them..abeg commot for road because everyone here has seen you for the liar that you are.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 6:43pm On Jul 27, 2014
Dragonking:

I have posted several evidences against Obj and you are yet to post one single link to counter them..abeg commot for road because everyone here has seen you for the liar that you are.

WHICH EVIDENCE? YOU PROVIDE WEBSITE LINK AS EVIDENCE.

IF SAHARAREPORTERS REPORTED ANY NEWS THAT AGAINST GEJ YOU WILL DOUBT THR CREDIBILITY OF THE NEWS.

WHY IS OBJ STILL MOVING FREELY WITHOUT BEING PROSECUTED?


WHO ARE THE EVERYONE? STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.

I WONDER WHAT WILL BECOME OF GEJ AFTER HIS ADMINISTRATION.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 6:45pm On Jul 27, 2014
Dragonking:

Yes you will get what you want when the health sector is fully privatized then all this rubbish will stop.

DID NIGERIANS GET CONSTANT ELECTRICITY SUPPLY WHEN THE POWER HOLDING WAS PRIVATILISED?
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 7:25pm On Jul 27, 2014
500GP:

DID NIGERIANS GET CONSTANT ELECTRICITY SUPPLY WHEN THE POWER HOLDING WAS PRIVATILISED?

When has nigeria ever had constant electricity supply before? Abeg stop asking stupiid questions.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Dragonking: 7:32pm On Jul 27, 2014
500GP:

WHICH EVIDENCE? YOU PROVIDE WEBSITE LINK AS EVIDENCE.

IF SAHARAREPORTERS REPORTED ANY NEWS THAT AGAINST GEJ YOU WILL DOUBT THR CREDIBILITY OF THE NEWS.

WHY IS OBJ STILL MOVING FREELY WITHOUT BEING PROSECUTED?


WHO ARE THE EVERYONE? STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.

I WONDER WHAT WILL BECOME OF GEJ AFTER HIS ADMINISTRATION.

Your level of reasoning is really low..so u want me to post videos of obj looting the money live or what? You also dont believe sahara reporters becos they exposed your masters evil ways? If it was the same sahara reporters that released negative news about gej u would believe right? I have backed all my arguements with u with reasonable and different sources of evidences but you are yet to debunk any of them with a proof.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by armadeo(m): 7:54pm On Jul 27, 2014
Arsenate: where was it said cleaners will be called doctors? no need to exaggerate in order to pass across your message, sir. what most health workers are fighting for is the right to rise to the pinnacle of their careers as is obtainable in saner countries. if our society isn't one filled with ego, sentiments and pettiness, it's a very welcomed move. it simply means we will have better trained pharmacist, nurses, radiographers etc all working with the doctors FOR THE GOOD OF THE PATIENT. but what do I know.



What does pinnacle of their career mean?
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 8:01pm On Jul 27, 2014
Dragonking:

Your level of reasoning is really low..so u want me to post videos of obj looting the money live or what? You also dont believe sahara reporters becos they exposed your masters evil ways? If it was the same sahara reporters that released negative news about gej u would believe right? I have backed all my arguements with u with reasonable and different sources of evidences but you are yet to debunk any of them with a proof.

YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY PROOFS BUT WEBSITE LINK. YOU DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF PROOF / EVIDENCE

I have backed all my arguements with u with reasonable and different sources of evidences but you are yet to debunk any of them with a proof.[/quote]
SELF APPRAISAL AT ITS PEAK. YOU CAN'T BE THE JUDGE AND THE PLAYER AT THE SAME TIME.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 8:08pm On Jul 27, 2014
Dragonking:

When has nigeria ever had constant electricity supply before? Abeg stop asking stupiid questions.

YOU SAID IF HEALTH SECTOR IS PRIVATISE, EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO HEALTH WILL BE FULLY CATER FOR AND I MAKE REFERENCE TO THE PRIVATISATION OF POWER HOLDING YET NIGERIANS DOESN'T ENJOY CONSTANT ELECTRICITY SUPPLY.

#PRIVATISATION WON'T WORK BRO.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by emerich(m): 8:16pm On Jul 27, 2014
omicron: So JOHESU is already warming up for a strike of their own? No comment, till then.

The Federal government got itself into this 'chaos', when it kept playing politics with the healthcare sector instead of equipping the hospitals to make them world-class and curbing the alarming rate of medical quackery, which has dragged the medical practice in Nigeria to where it is now, at the detriment of the common man.

Doctors will be ever-ready for any thing the government will do in order to save the health sector from all who now see the hospital as students' politics arena.

...doctors will ''always protect the traditions of the Medical Profession by ALL MEANS...'' as stated
in the Oath, and in the best Interest of our sole reason for their existence - The Patient.
By embarking on strike right, at the detriment of the patients. Best interest indeed.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by thegeneral84: 8:22pm On Jul 27, 2014
godsI: I have a simple advice to our magnificient GEJ, they are as follows: All serving doctors shall henceforth cease to own any private hospitals. Those who already have will cease to work for govt. Every health implement purchased by the govt must bear a medical company indelible mark. Any govt owned implements found in any private hospital(with the help of the mark) will incure life imprisonment. The entire executive members of NMA should be sacked, starting from their president, and their emolument shall not be paid ever(as deserters). Our dear president, in his wisdom, knows how to work under the surface and patiently too to bring it all to completion. Long live GEJ, long live this great strategist, long live Nigeria!
if doctors working for the government are prevented from running private hospitals, then pharmacists, medical lab scientists...,etc who have private pharmacies and labs, in addition to their government employment, should also close down the said places. People clamoring against doctors owning private hospitals forget that if implemented, they too would be required to close down their private labs and pharmacies. Everything done will have to be implemented across board.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by IzyLuv(f): 8:24pm On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.


To make doz other people feel good... tongue
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by biomedixexcel(m): 8:51pm On Jul 27, 2014
better
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 9:14pm On Jul 27, 2014
musaak: it is used that way to distinguish doctors that that treat medical ailment from other doctors such as academic doctors in the university with phd degree.
so if i have a phd in anatomy or physiology or histology or dermatology, what will i be called?medical allied doctor? grin grin don't this people treat or aid treatment?
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 9:21pm On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.
hahahahahah grin grin hilarious just laughed and fell from an iroko tree and rolling on the ground with laughter can somebody help stop me please grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 9:44pm On Jul 27, 2014
Akbee: poor working conditions shud be outlawed n made a thing of the past too...they are fighting for a just cause...why wasn't ASUU proscribed when its members we're on industrial action?bad boy johnny n his bad kids called advisers...
a just cause indeed. How does all of these ;

The NMA embarked on an indefinite strike action since July 1st, demanding among 24 things the payment of N13 billion wage demands for 2014, resrving the position of Chief Medical director to only medical doctors, appointment of Surgeon General of the Federation, passage of National Health Bill, providing security for doctors, increase in duty hazard and specialist allowances, as well as budget for residency training programme, reintegration of its members into the IPPIS platform, and reserving the title of consultants to only medical doctors.






justify patients health and their interest?


Drs THERE IS GOD OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 10:19pm On Jul 27, 2014
creekman: My on take on this is, if govt wants to ban NMA or JOHESU, dey shld remember to also ban ASUU,NLC,etc. ...
YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER FG SHOULD DO; SACK ALL AND CALL FOR FRESH RECRUITMENT-THE "FASHOLANISM" METHOD OF DEALING WITH NMA. grin grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Fernandez01: 10:27pm On Jul 27, 2014
tochimas: A beg everybody should go buy where there is no doctors, its a very important book to have at home even where there is a doctor. after all majority of these our present crops of medical doctors kills more people than they save, only few emergency situation is going to be needing them this season , if other health professionals are well trained, they should be able to handle most, and the ones they can't handle should be referred to the army or private hospital, they can all open their own hospitals for all I care but they should first resign from the govt owned hospitals first.







U sound really stup...IId

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 27, 2014
Let's c who wins....

Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 10:31pm On Jul 27, 2014
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wordcat:

Medical doctor remains a tautology if the word "medical" is restricted to doctors alone.

BTW what happens to Medical Lab Scientists? grin
Save your energy my good friend. lets stop calling them doctors. To avoid the confusion with academic doctors,we should call them physicians. i am also wondering what they will call their colleagues with PhD in medicine. perhaps they will call them medical doctor-phD/medical doctor-doctor grin grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 10:46pm On Jul 27, 2014
philips70:

Very true. Unfortunately, sir, the government which you serve is not responsible. Very unfortunate.
And u are that you allowed scores of people dead in the country in the course of your selfish strike.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 11:11pm On Jul 27, 2014
lakamua: hahaha. u dey form wiseman and u just embarrased ursef. medical is restricted to d doctors in question. what we have is many kinda of doctors e.g witch doctor,academic doctors etc. so medical tells us the kind of doctor
lakamua aka wisest man. so you are saying that there is witch lab scientist(not medical lab scientist), witch rehab(not medical rehab), witch image scientist (not medical image scientist). I hope you know that we have local people who massages, how do we differentiate them from the physiotherapist? How about orthopedics, how do we differentiate them from those who local bone setters.na wa for una oh! grin grin



PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT TO CALL A MEDICAL DOCTOR WITH A PhD.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by wordcat(m): 11:16pm On Jul 27, 2014
grin grin or doctor medical doctor grin grin

Elythron16zero4: ;DSave your energy my good friend. lets stop calling them doctors. To avoid the confusion with academic doctors,we should call them physicians. i am also wondering what they will call their colleagues with PhD in medicine. perhaps they will call them medical doctor-phD/medical doctor-doctor grin grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 11:21pm On Jul 27, 2014
wordcat: grin grin or doctor medical doctor grin grin

PLS SAVE ME YOU JUST MADE ME HIT MY HEAD ON THE FLOOR WHILE LAUGHING grin grin grin grin

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 11:22pm On Jul 27, 2014
ogawisdom: Jonathan shld take some lessons frm fashiola on hw to humble the oversized ego of these physician. They ve kidnapped this country already n asking for outrageous random Declare their strike illegal, Sack those unwilling to resume work n employ new ones angry

funny u
NMA is one big and organized family.
if u sack all doctors under FG pay roll, do u think that those of us in private setting are willing to work and receive those peanuts with insult?
my advise to FG is to privatize all govt hospitals... pay off those workers that are redundant.

FG do not have right to ban doctors under their pay roll from owning a hospital ... many Nurses, lab guys, pharmacist also have their own set ups so why the noises.
privatization remains the only solutions
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jul 27, 2014
NMA is one big and organized family.
if u sack all doctors under FG pay roll, do u think that those of us in private setting are willing to work and receive those peanuts with insult?
my advise to FG is to privatize all govt hospitals... pay off those workers that are redundant.

FG do not have right to ban doctors under their pay roll from owning a hospital ... many Nurses, lab guys, pharmacist also have their own set ups so why the noises.
privatization remains the only solutions
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 11:57pm On Jul 27, 2014
kenonze:

funny u
NMA is one big and organized family.
if u sack all doctors under FG pay roll, do u think that those of us in private setting are willing to work and receive those peanuts with insult?
my advise to FG is to privatize all govt hospitals... pay off those workers that are redundant.

FG do not have right to ban doctors under their pay roll from owning a hospital ... many Nurses, lab guys, pharmacist also have their own set ups so why the noises.
privatization remains the only solutions
na true U talk here jare if u sack all doctors under FG pay roll, do u think that those of us in private setting are willing to work and receive those peanuts with insult?

it was for the same reason that after mr fashola de Gov sack all of una for lag and called for fresh recruitment and indeed no doctors applied but he only got a preponderant of application and eventually employed some of them in what got on the nerves of NMA that they picked quarrel with the employed doctors that they are eying their jobs and were proposing sanctions on those doctors describing their moves as unethical. una no no say plenty doctors they find this govt job.IF NMA GET LIVER MAKE UNA RESIGN UNA APPOINTMENT COMPLETELY INSTEAD OF STRIKE AND SEE THE FLOOD OF DOCTORS THAT WILL ROLL IN THEIR APPLICATIONS. UNA NEVER KNOW SAY PEOPLE WEY DEY P FIND WORK 4 NIJA PLENTY PLENTY LIKE SAND.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Elythron16zero4: 12:05am On Jul 28, 2014
Elythron16zero4: na true U talk here jare if u sack all doctors under FG pay roll, do u think that those of us in private setting are willing to work and receive those peanuts with insult?

it was for the same reason that after mr fashola de Gov sack all of una for lag and called for fresh recruitment and indeed no doctors applied but he only got a preponderant of application and eventually employed some of them in what got on the nerves of NMA that they picked quarrel with the employed doctors that they are eying their jobs and were proposing sanction on those doctors describing their moves as unethical. una no no say plenty doctors they find this govt job.IF NMA GET LIVER MAKE UNA RESIGN UNA APPOINTMENT COMPLETELY INSTEAD OF STRIKE AND SEE THE FLOOD OF DOCTORS THAT WILL ROLL IN THEIR APPLICATIONS. UNA NEVER KNOW SAY PEOPLE WEY DEY P FIND WORK 4 NIJA PLENTY PLENTY LIKE SAND.
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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 4:13am On Jul 28, 2014
Naija docs now is the time to fight till the last end...when its getting tougher know that you r getting nearer... We once managed an MTN staff's wife who had to deliver her baby via emergency c/s and the funny husband said its not that he doesn't have the money but he has already planned it for the naming ceremony...he said we should wait and see if his wife will deliver herself..we waited extra 2hours b4 we eventually ended up with c/s..tell me who's heartless..Naija docs fight 4yur right oh..Naija ppl no send you msg oh!
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by PTAwal: 4:30am On Jul 28, 2014
nationwide24: No need for google here. Everyone knows it. In hospital environment, d term "doctor" is exclusively for medical doctors to avoid confusion. Or you mean we should have doctor pharmacy technicians, doctor theatre attendant, doctor lab scientist, etc.
Mumu !!! I tot you have sense. Why not doctor medical doctor. Since they are the only ones entitilled to it. What is the meaning of "doctor pharmacy technicians, doctor theatre attendant, doctor lab scientist" kai. Gaskiya you are really senselesssssss.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 4:58am On Jul 28, 2014
Elythron16zero4: so if i have a phd in anatomy or physiology or histology or dermatology, what will i be called?medical allied doctor? grin grin don't this people treat or aid treatment?

This is where people get it all wrong. There's a clear distinction between a PhD degree and a professional doctorate degree (e.g. MBBS, PharmD). One is professionally inclined and the other is purely academic. If for example, a nurse goes on to get a PhD degree in nursing, it's meant solely for academic purposes and not for professional purposes. It doesn't proffer on him/her any extra professional qualities. In the same vein, if a medical doctor gets a PhD degree, it also doesn't accord him/her any extra professional qualities. What confers the 'consultancy status' on a medical doctor is the completion of a rigorous 'residency' programme in a particular medical specialty. Other healthcare fields do not have such programmes (kindly correct me if I'm wrong). What obtains are academic advancement and hence, the reluctancy to accord other healthcare workers 'consultancy status'.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Samgreguc(m): 5:30am On Jul 28, 2014
Zeus777: Thesaurus Legend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Noun 1. medical profession - the body of individuals who are qualified to practice medicine
medical community
health profession - the body of individuals whose work helps to maintain the health of their clients
don't the bolded tell u smth? Or don't the work of a Nurse helps maintain the health of a patience?
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by nationwide24: 8:11am On Jul 28, 2014
PTAwal:
Mumu !!! I tot you have sense. Why not doctor medical doctor. Since they are the only ones entitilled to it. What is the meaning of "doctor pharmacy technicians, doctor theatre attendant, doctor lab scientist" kai. Gaskiya you are really senselesssssss.
Inakwana maigida. But you could have still made your point clear without resorting to venom of vituperation. If you think my opinion is nonsense, remember there is sense in every nonsense and Nigeria is a land of no impossibilities. Sanu baba-mutun

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