Whom I have chosen, I have justified and whom I have justified, I have Glorified says The Lord.

Dis heaven race na individual race y not run yours and leave others to God and not use ur tongue to condemn ursef

God is no respecter of any man and his words remain d same

martyns303: Jesus Christ was sort after many times to be killed prior to him finally being arrested. At the point of him being arrested, one of his apostle took out a knife and cut off the ear of one of the arresting soldiers in an attempt to defend Jesus, but Jesus rebuked him, and even went ahead to heal the ear of the soldier. Am sure this is a demostration that there wasn't need for a defender (bodyguard). And if prosecutors should come, then one should face it, even with his life. A tough decision I know, but if u are not prepared for such sacrifice then u shouldn't take up a calling, u can't be enjoying the privilege and not make the sacrifice.

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smh... just like saying he needs body guards to protect him from evil spirits... You can never substitute the protection from God with that of mere men. www.kongegist.com

They don't need bodyguards, why don't they leave the book of Malachi and preach from other books of the bible, extorting money from the masses provokes a damn lot!. Maybe that's why an angry mob would attack a man of God.

Jesus preach without bodyguard, so how does this add to the preaching of pastors. All i know is many are call few are chosen

Rioavez: Just cos its life and death don't mean they should ignore security challenges bro. These people got families and loved ones too. Happy sunday

bro, datz were u are wrong. If u are to follow Jesus, u must forget everything includin loved ones, carry the cross and follow him.

@op. Pls do not compare pastors with jesus, its normal 2 want 2 be secured but d motive behind most of dem having it is what concern me d most.

Well, if they were really, really called by God, then no need for bodyguards.
Proverbs 16:7 says if a man's way pleases the Lord, He makes even his enemies at peace with him:
Mathews 26: 52 says those who live by the sword shall also die by the sword ie those who live by guns shall also die by guns.
Psalms 127:1 says If the LORD does not protect a city, it is useless for the guard to stay alert.
So, if really these so called Pastors are genuine, they should learn to live by the word of God because the weapons of our warfare are not canal.

It depends on your level.

saintvc: Did jesus use body-guard?

yes. He had 12 followers. one of them even had to cut the ear of one of their master's prosecutors

englishmart: yes. He had 12 followers. one of them even had to cut the ear of one of their master's prosecutors

why do pple just use a part of bible 2 justify dia comment. If u wanna use dat part, pls u all and dont segment it. Did Jesus reaction after da action encourage bodyguard or not. Read all of dat chapter u quoted 4rm to get ur ans. Thank u.

visasubagent: Well , these men can be equated with Jesus. Jesus was God and a man at the same time.

See washed mentality !!

na wa o.... all is well

Rubbish.... And it seems u just justifying rubbish....

saintvc: Did jesus use body-guard?

Ok nah. OP, please replace the word "bodyguard" with "disciple" let's see if some people will understand better.

Men become lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God..
That is what we get when "missionary" becomes "ministry" just like ministry of finance
...and the "ministry" has to move forward abi na

I'm not judging them abeg o!

SeanT10: Well, if they were really, really called by God, then no need for bodyguards.

Everyone has been called by God, including you and I. No special person is appointed.

lalasticlala: I used to kick against Pastors moving about with bodyguards. I was like, what do they need bodyguards for, did Jesus move about with bodyguards?
But I seem to have a rethink now.
First, there are instances where pastors were reportedly killed abroad while preaching in the pulpit.
Then just few weeks ago, it was reported that a Nigerian Redeem Pastor was killed in the North by the dreaded insurgent group operating in those regions and his family abducted.
Although I doubt if the bodyguards could have withstood the attack had it been the pastor had bodyguards.
The security situation in the country has made the need for bodyguards by Nigerian pastors a desideratum and a sine qua non.

Then about my earlier thought about Jesus Christ not moving with bodyguards doing his time, I saw one comment sometime ago that seemed to buttress the fact that he did have bodyguards.

I think his disciples were his bodyguards.
They moved along with him wherever he went to.

Recall the time some children were trying to come to him and the disciples tried to prevent them but he told them to allow them.

In another instance, at the eve of Jesus' crucifixion, during his arrest, Peter used knife (arms) to cut off the ear of one of those that had come to arrest his master (oga) in an attempt to protect him.

So Nigerian pastors should have bodyguards if they wish but shouldn't use them to intimidate others.

Correct me where necessary.

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visasubagent: Well , these men can be equated with Jesus. Jesus was God and a man at the same time.

. Eh eh eh. Rough play. Don't say jesus is/was God. Jesus never called him self God or encouraged any1 to call him God. There is only one God and he is a jealous God. I am 100% christian

lalasticlala: I used to kick against Pastors moving about with bodyguards. I was like, what do they need bodyguards for, did Jesus move about with bodyguards?
But I seem to have a rethink now.
First, there are instances where pastors were reportedly killed abroad while preaching in the pulpit.
Then just few weeks ago, it was reported that a Nigerian Redeem Pastor was killed in the North by the dreaded insurgent group operating in those regions and his family abducted.
Although I doubt if the bodyguards could have withstood the attack had it been the pastor had bodyguards.
The security situation in the country has made the need for bodyguards by Nigerian pastors a desideratum and a sine qua non.

Then about my earlier thought about Jesus Christ not moving with bodyguards doing his time, I saw one comment sometime ago that seemed to buttress the fact that he did have bodyguards.

I think his disciples were his bodyguards.
They moved along with him wherever he went to.

Recall the time some children were trying to come to him and the disciples tried to prevent them but he told them to allow them.

In another instance, at the eve of Jesus' crucifixion, during his arrest, Peter used knife (arms) to cut off the ear of one of those that had come to arrest his master (oga) in an attempt to protect him.

So Nigerian pastors should have bodyguards if they wish but shouldn't use them to intimidate others.

Correct me where necessary.

Body guard or not. When it is your time to die. You die. A pastors bodyguard should be 'the power of God in the name of jesus'

queensenglish91: David said that. Why did he have armies and guards?

David was a soldier my friend. Do u expect him to have suya sellers? Electronics sellers? Or dvd sellers? Happy Sunday!!!

To speak the truth, pastors have no business using bodyguards, aside Jesus, which of Jesus's followers had bodyguards, was it Paul, James, John or who exactly had bodyguards.

I have also come to notice that most pastors tend to copy of follow the path Jesus lead when it suits them. they never could copy his meek and general forgiving attitude.

Any pastor that tells u not to buy drugs to heal any illness does not need bodyguards period! And if they have, its a proof that they are scarmers.

newguy1: @op. Pls do not compare pastors with jesus, its normal 2 want 2 be secured but d motive behind most of dem having it is what concern me d most.

Bro, What is the meaning of Christian

lomprico: Any pastor that tells u not to buy drugs to heal any illness does not need bodyguards period! And if they have, its a proof that they are scarmers.

Well I guess that means majority of them are scammers, because they will basically tell you exactly what you wrote here, saying; 'if you have zoe, you definately don't need to use drugs'.

kstyle2: Dunno if they need or they don't. All i know is that my harvest and your harvest dis week will be like dis

Amen in Jesus name!!

tomiobj: . Eh eh eh. Rough play. Don't say jesus is/was God. Jesus never called him self God or encouraged any1 to call him God. There is only one God and he is a jealous God. I am 100% christian

Please go read phillipians 2:6 and John 10:30.

There's alot of rivalry for the lost sheep market.

Since they started calling it 'my ministry' they have no choice than to treat it like an everyday business,thus bodyguardism surfaces.then again since they have no equal in the pastors,ministers that follow.people will have to throng for 'anointing' whereas deacon did the healing in the bible.how many can do it nowadays. Fear of death is the base of all this bodyguardness. Go look at Joel Osteen.not one bodyguard.corrupt heads that turned malachi to Moses!! I tell u any one of us that is suddenlt given 12men to be guarding us will have some selfworth.not to talk of when we have fat account,jets--PRIDE.

kstyle2: Dunno if they need or they don't. All i know is that my harvest and your harvest dis week will be like dis

Imagine all these perfect looking organic pinapples.That stuff is hard money when utilized maximally.It is one of the best fruits in the world and in nigeria they can be grown with little efforts,with no much need for pesticides and insecticides.

No pastor or divine intervention can make you rich and comfortable,only you can set yourself free if you think and work hard.The socalled men of god thrive at the expense of the poor and ignorant.Their relevance lasts as long as the people refuse to learn.

Rexnegro: don't mind all those pastors carrying bodyguards up n down jare...maybe they forgot the bible part that said that fear not for am with u...and the other bible part that warned people of "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm" as for me o my opinion is I tink they don't want to die cos they still wanna enjoy all their riches jare.... a Godly prophet shouldn't be afraid to die...but naija pastors na wetin they go chop dey run for their head alone...thats y I like daddy G.o pastor E.A adeboye u hardly see him flaunt bodyguards..tho I can't say if he has or not cos I haven't seen him with bodyguards.

sorry also Adeboye has bodygards, but his didnot look at the first sign as bodyguard they look like we have it here in europa!!!!!!!!!!!

but he is not better as all the other so called great man of god!!!!!!!!!!!

visasubagent:

Please go read phillipians 2:6 and John 10:30.

. . I and my father are one. Means their together. Dosen't necessarily mean jesus is actually God. I'll check phillipians when I get home. And also. Let's take this to anoda thread in order not to derail this one