Bazinga:

No lady am not crazy.

Mods see this girl is harrassing me. Rule no 2 is broken by this girl.

BadBoy25: I see nothing wrong .

MiguelMi6: Some have misplaced priorities,others just enjoy what they have,its part of their rewards.The Bible makes it known that Jesus wasn't poor,he could afford the very best fleet of ships,he could afford to make reservations for the upper chamber-a mordern day presidential suite,his garments was even prophesied to be beautiful and priceless for the centurions to cast a lot for its possession.This is just a few,the Bible can tell you more.

I think extravagancy of some of them is the major problem,they flourish instead of rendering back to their flock.His Holiness Pope Bergoglio is trying so hard to show true virtues of leadership,a first ever for any Pope-Members first above your own needs and care.Christ exhibited that.

Phlegmwash: What's the source of Jesus' income? While He may have been a carpenter before he was 30, after clocking 30 he took up ministry job full time. Please don't tell me its donations..because a good number of His followers were poor and the few rich ones were advised to give up their riches to improve their chances of making heaven(Matthew 19:21).

How do you support your claim that money exchanged hands when he made a reservation for the upper room if the bible was your source..here's an excerpt from Mt.26:18-19: "...He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover..." As for the expensive clothe, I hate to burst your bubbles..they weren't His..it was put on Him by Herod's soldiers before sending Him to Pilate...""Then Herod and his soldiers treated Him (Jesus) with contempt; and after mocking Him, he put a splendid robe on Him and sent Him back to Pilate."

I have repeatedly listened to teachings of this type from our pastors and i think they're wrong. Jesus is very rich but not by our world's standard be careful of pastors who says otherwise!

IyaHolyMary:
I think that you dey yab ma PAPA.....

Exceeding Grace!!!!!!


P of C: I'm a woman

tim411:

So that is why they should spend millions of dollars on buildings and luxurious lives for the cardinals and not invest in people...when there is poverty everywhere.....
Call a spade a spade this is juz wastage

Phlegmwash: What's the source of Jesus' income? While He may have been a carpenter before he was 30, after clocking 30 he took up ministry job full time. Please don't tell me its donations..because a good number of His followers were poor and the few rich ones were advised to give up their riches to improve their chances of making heaven.

How do you support your claim that money exchanged hands when he made a reservation for the upper room if the bible was your source..here's an excerpt from Mt.26:18-19: "...He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover..." As for the expensive clothe, I hate to burst your bubbles..they weren't His..it was put on Him by Herod's soldiers before sending Him to Pilate...""Then Herod and his soldiers treated Him (Jesus) with contempt; and after mocking Him, he put a splendid robe on Him and sent Him back to Pilate."

I have repeatedly listened to teachings of this type from our pastors and i think they're wrong. Jesus is very rich but not by our world's standard be careful of pastors who says otherwise!

frosbel: is this where they abuse little children ?

Atmmachine: Poor people can also buy this kinda homes in USA..

Nigerians are dead brains.

Alishachris:

at least they have the pride of honour to own up that they own the houses unlike pentecotal MOGs that hide billions they collected as tithes in private business and even abroad!

Phlegmwash: What's the source of Jesus' income? While He may have been a carpenter before he was 30, after clocking 30 he took up ministry job full time. Please don't tell me its donations..because a good number of His followers were poor and the few rich ones were advised to give up their riches to improve their chances of making heaven.

How do you support your claim that money exchanged hands when he made a reservation for the upper room if the bible was your source..here's an excerpt from Mt.26:18-19: "...He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover..." As for the expensive clothe, I hate to burst your bubbles..they weren't His..it was put on Him by Herod's soldiers before sending Him to Pilate...""Then Herod and his soldiers treated Him (Jesus) with contempt; and after mocking Him, he put a splendid robe on Him and sent Him back to Pilate."

I have repeatedly listened to teachings of this type from our pastors and i think they're wrong. Jesus is very rich but not by our world's standard be careful of pastors who says otherwise!

BadBoy25: I'm baptist by birth and the catholic church is not even my cup of tea. I simply see nothing luxurious about those mediocre gothic houses. I'm sure Nigerian archbishops have similar official residences . they also take commercial flights instead of private jet.
I only have a problem with the prosperity and miracle preachers both american and Nigerian much as creflo dollar,benny Hinn,tb joshua etc. who make the church their personal money making machine. Creflo dollar has 3 rolls royce,2 mega mansions and a condominium, yacht,2 private jets . that's lavish.

ROSSIKE:

Really? Why don't you show us those 'poor people' in America that buy multimillion dollar mansions, you nasty, stupi.d wastrel. What? The people sleeping rough in New York, or is it the homeless millions and countless street beggars, or is it the millions of the food stamp dependent single mums, who exactly Idiatt dead brain calling others same.

Alishachris:

you don't joke with religion and things of God bro! the ties run deep. I am a catholic but yet I brought up this issue because It is not right! evil flourish when the good men do nothing

Rich4god: If this should come from any one, it shouldnt be from you... It negates thereal Christ you claim to follow...


To add something here... This is not the private home of the archbishops... Its owned by the catholic diocese of those areas. So anytime the bishop dies or resign, he vacates the place and the next bishop comes in... So what the fuses about. Its like saying the vatican is the private property of the pope whilst it belongs to the church in general.

Alishachris: "How I would like a Church which is
poor and for the poor!"— Pope
Francis
Clearly, "lifestyles of the rich and
religious" doesn't cut it for Pope
Francis.
The pontiff has said it "breaks my heart"
to see priests and nuns driving the latest-
model cars.
He's blasted "airport bishops" who spend
more time jet-setting than tending to their
flocks.
And he's warned against church leaders
who bear the "psychology of princes."
The Vatican fired one such "prince" last
year: German Bishop Franz-Peter
Tebartz-van Elst -- aka "The Bishop
of Bling" -- who spent $43 million to
remodel his opulent pad.
(Bronze window frames? $2.4 million.
Getting on the wrong side of the Pope?
Far more pricey.)
"God save us from a worldly Church
with superficial spiritual and pastoral
trappings!" Francis said in his book-
length blueprint for the church .
Say what you will, but this Pope puts
his preaching into practice.

dasparrow:

Of course not! I don't expect you to see anything wrong since we are talking about AMERICAN peeps here. If the topic were to be about Nigerian pastors and their lavish lifestyles, you and your ilk will be all up on this thread reigning insults on Nigerians and Nigeria as a nation and telling the people how foolish they are. However, since the thread is about your pay masters the americans, the cat has suddenly stolen your tongue or maybe your fingers have suddenly gone numb. SMH!

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God knows his own. These archbishops should remember the bible verse that says in Matthew 19:24 "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." (NIV)

tim411:

So that is why they should spend millions of dollars on buildings and luxurious lives for the cardinals and not invest in people...when there is poverty everywhere.....
Call a spade a spade this is juz wastage

Atmmachine:


Kid,you need to grow up.

Crack head from bronx projects

Sunglow:
I don't understand you fellows who think that the Church should be poor God is not poor so neither should the Churches of Jesus Christ.Prosperity of the Church/Christians is for a purpose: TO FURTHER THE GOSPEL. The Gospel is free but not CHEAP! For e.g do you guys know how much it will cost to sponsor Bibles to prisons? you do the math.That's the reason God will always prosper the Church becos they have a lot to do in ensuring people get to hear the Gospel all over the world.
I prefer to be wealthy,becos POVERTY IS A SIN AND ITS OF THE DEVIL!