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Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 11:28am On Aug 07, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 11:38am On Aug 07, 2014
I do not know much about nissan and volkswagen but I know that for a flooded environment like yours,the honda pilot will be the perfect choice due to the fact that it has auxiliary gear and also drives well and have a good resell value.The toyota highlander is another good car but it not all make that has auxiliary.The best option for you is the honda pilot
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 11:42am On Aug 07, 2014
In the descending order:
Highlander
Pilot
Rav-4
CR-V

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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Kashif(m): 4:19pm On Aug 07, 2014
lomomike: In the descending order:
Highlander
Pilot
Rav-4
CR-V
Subjectively.... for me, the Rav4 comes before the Highlander - very ugly and big.

edozie04: I do not know much about nissan and volkswagen but I know that for a flooded environment like yours,the honda pilot will be the perfect choice due to the fact that it has auxiliary gear and also drives well and have a good resell value.The toyota highlander is another good car but it not all make that has auxiliary.The best option for you is the honda pilot

It is the 4wd that they have. 4wd does not make any differency in floods, strictly speaking. If you have to drive through flooded smooth terrains, what do you need the 4wd for? Why would you always carry extra luggage and maintenance cost that you may never need? In my opinion, I think the OP just needs a car with high ground clearance. But, if your area is uneven and muddy, you will need the 4wd!
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by nurey(m): 5:37pm On Aug 07, 2014
Guy you didn't mention the model year of the vechiles you highlighted and you didn't tell us your budget. It will be hard to get a reasonable help here.
But I will say 1 or 2 things about this vehicles according to the common ones ones on the road.
1. Highlander
2. Honda pilot
3. Honda crv
4. Nissan xtrail
5. Rav4
6. VW tuareg

Your best bet will be the highlander the 2002 to 2005 model year. If u can get the 3seats variant and i4 for fuel efficiency but the v6 will give u more power to overcome obstacles.

The honda pilot only comes with a v6 engine and a real off-roader the 2003 to 2006 model year is ok and also has a good resale value and doesn't have the leg pulling associated with honda cars

The next contestant is the crv very rugged i4 car, the 1st gen 1998 to 2002 is tough but the 2nd gen 2003 to 2007 too is ok and lovely too

The xtrail I prefer to some model year rav 4 cause the xtrail looks bigger and manly than the rav4 (1st and 2nd gen rav 4) but the 2003 upwards rav4 always have gear issues but the xtrail does, the xtrail 2nd gen is wonderful but the resale value may be a problem.

The tuareg comes with a v6 and v8 engine variant and very costly indeed among the other cars. It is a german machine so expect good craftsmanship and state of the art luxury but the major problem you will encounter is the absorber. I have really forgotten what that absorber is called but once it spoils be ready to pay tooth and blood for fixing it. Also mechanics must be professional to handle it. But it is the rearest suv to come by even g-wagon common pass am.

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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by bravolad(m): 6:55pm On Aug 07, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 10:44pm On Aug 07, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 10:49pm On Aug 07, 2014
Bant:

Thank you. Someone was telling me that similar vehicles from Nissan, Honda and Toyota are basically all in the same range; but branding and marketing is mostly what sets them apart. He was arguing for Nissan cars, that the price is usually right. Only thing he's not sure about is the resale value.

Well, almost true

Highander - murano - pilot
Cr-v - Rav-4 - Quashqui
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 8:49am On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 8:51am On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 8:55am On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 9:01am On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 9:11am On Aug 08, 2014
I love Nissan, but I'd rather avoid a 1st generation Nissan Murano (prefacelift and post facelift inclusive) due to the issue with their CVT tranny which are very delicate. If given a choice between a Murano, and a pilot, I'd choose the pilot. If given choice between pilot and a highlander, I'd choose a pilot (assuming cost of running a 3.5L V6, and a column shifter isn't an issue) due to its better ground clearance than a highlander, and its better 'offroadability' (ts still not a totally off road capable CUV), its 3rd row (large family) and cargo size are important to me.

However, I still chose a highlander as a 1st choice due to Nigerian maintenance culture, residual resale value, cheap running cost, great practicality its got a 2.4L and a 3.0L V6 step up to 2004 model it forgoes its 3.0L V6 to 3.3L V6. Which is either FWD or 4WD, impressive build quality.

This is an unbiased advice from a highlander owner.
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by nurey(m): 12:55pm On Aug 08, 2014
I still prefer honda to toyota but I will not be biased with my judgement. I will advice you go for the highlander because of its presence in naija and its size isn't bulky as the honda pilot and not too miniature like the rav 4 and cr-v. Since you won't be climbing mountains and boulders you don't need a v6 engine variant you can get the i4 but what you gain in fuel efficiency you lose in power. Please avoid the hybrid version like a plague since you will be using it in naija.

The next contestant I will vouch for is the CR-V it is a compact cuv and durable than the rav 4 I guess because of its more common than the rav 4. The crv is a beautiful master piece but the 08 version is expensive considering ur budget.

If you are looking for something beautiful and not too common, you can try the TOYOTA FORTUNER, it has a 3rd row seat but kinda looks like a hilux but has a good ground clearance and various engine variant. It is not too expensive but resale value I can't tell I have only seen two in naija one in lagos and one in abeokuta.
Rub minds with lomomike he can vouch for a highlander since he uses one.

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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by Nobody: 1:05pm On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by nurey(m): 8:06pm On Aug 08, 2014
Good luck with your choice, remember to invite us for the bash of ur new choice
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by bravolad(m): 8:44pm On Aug 08, 2014
Bant: Good Nairaland auto-mechanics and car users, I have been hunting for an SUV to buy and I have filtered down my options to these:
Honda:
- Honda Pilot
- Honda CRV
Toyota:
- Highlander
- Rav4
Nissan:
- Murano
- Xtrail
Volkswagen:
- Touareg
All of them have to be models with automatic transmission and have keyless entry.
If you've used these vehicles or if you know them well, can you please offer opinions to help me make a good decision?
My metrics of concern are:
- It has to drive well on bad Nigerian roads and I'm choosing SUVs because my area tends to be flooded.
- It must be easy on me as someone that's just learning how to drive.
- Ease of finding good mechanics in Lagos (I know little, almost nothing, about cars but I'm willing to learn on the job)
- Resale value. I intend to buy a Tokunbo (not more than 6 to 7 years old) but I will need to resell it in about one year due to a planned relocation at work. I need something that will resell without stress.
- I'll prefer something not overly expensive but i'm willing to pay for good value.
Please help. Thank you.

My best bet would be the highlander 2006/2007 model. My reason for this conclusion is that I currently use a Toyota Sienna 2004 model. They share the same platform, engine and build. Although the sienna is slightly longer and heavier, but they use the same 3MZ - FE 3.3l engine. If you use the recommended engine oil albert constatant oil change at specified intervals, you have nothing to worry about. Parts and mechanics are within reach. Mpg is not bad for its size.

I think the Honda pilot of those years is bulkier with 3.5l engine and that would also impact on mpg. The V6 version of the rav4 may also be another good option but the interior is bland and exterior looks feminine. Personal opinion though.
Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by DelTel(m): 10:09pm On Aug 10, 2014
I bought a Nissan Murano 2005 model (still have it) in 2008 with low mileage (20k+); relatively enjoyed the vehicle until 2013 when different issues started cropping up - fuel pump, catalyst, then CVT tranny issues wrongly diagnosed by authorised dealer! (see my comment on Nissparts post).
Murano parts are also expensive in Naija, had to resort to importing my spare most times; then no second (or third) hand value.
I have seen Naija-used Murano 05,06 sold for 500k and even less while same Naija-used honda "baby-boy" and Toyota corolla 98,99 models sold for 700k!!!
As per driving, Murano steering not 'soft' as most cars.

My 2kobo: don't know about other cars but Murano of 6-7yrs old models can't be smooth driving.
The car is presently parked at the mechanic garage!!!

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Re: Comparing Some Honda, Toyota, Nissan And Volkswagen Cars by shootsight(m): 6:06am On Aug 13, 2014
The Volkswagen touareg outperforms and outclasses them all... May be a lil more expensive to maintain too... definitely not for someone who just wants to commute to and fro work.

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