Obiagelli: [color=blue] when ebola broke out in April, the federal government lead by gej kept on looting while their sycophants kept hailing, today our lives as a whole is under threat, rather than put measures in place to prevent the virus from getting here, our minister of information claimed that the government has enough vaccines and medicines to deal with the situation. [/b]

eaglechild:
You see i told you we are going round in circles

AZeD1:
How is ignoring WHO guidelines detrimental?

eaglechild:
Kindly read my previous posts.

naptu2:

Nope. You are simply running away. There's absolutely nothing in what you quoted that spells out any consequences or penalties.

ovadoze:
Yeah let's continue to blame GEJ, yeah he should have been at the airport to turn back Mr. Sawyer, he should have developed cure for Ebola virus by now, infact GEJ was supposed to carry gun and enter Sambisa forest to kill members of the BH, he shouldn't have killed Yusuf the founder of the islamic sect(Yaradua did), he shouldn't have allowed Buhari to overthrow the civilian govt of Shehu Shagari, he shouldn't have allowed the military to rule us for that long, he enthroned corruption in Nigeria, yes he did, he liquidated most Nigerian owned companies (NITEL and Nigerian airways comes to mind), blame him when u have dysmenorrhea, blame him when ur lecturer takes bribe, he's supposed to tell Islamic radicals that they shouldn't kill their fellow human being in the name of religion, blame him for the death of morals in the country, blame him for causing the civil war, blame him for the laziness and ineptitude of Nigerians, blame him when u fail exams, blame him for nailing Christ to the cross, blame him for all the things that happened in Nigeria before he was born, blame him for the amalgamation of northern and southern Nigeria. Keep blaming him.

AZeD1:
I've read them but didn't see any consequence stated.

naptu2:

That's because there's none. He's just trying to run away from the question and trying to have the last word without actually saying anything.

He's been talking about a "WHO directive", but he has failed to show us the "directive" and where it states that we can't close our border.

Obiagelli: Btw dss officers that should be helping to track down further contacts with sawyer are still in Oshogbo.

eaglechild:
http://www.who.int/ith/updates/20140421/en/


It is very long and continually upgraded.

I just decided to point this out for the ignorant folks who have been shouting about screening.

3.1.4. Screening passengers at points of entry ( ports , airports or ground crossing) is not recommended

Screening of passengers at points of entry (arrival or departure) is costly and expected to have very limited impact because it is very unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD. This is particularly true for EVD with its incubation period of 2 to 21 days and symptoms that are not specific. As part of this, the use of thermal scanners that rely on the presence of ‘fever’ in arriving passengers is costly, unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD and is not encouraged.


Read and educate yourself

naptu2:

Good. Now show me where it says that we can't close our borders.

naptu2:

Good. Now show me where it says that we can't close our borders.

naptu2:
Good. Now show me where it says that we can't close our borders.

eaglechild:
http://www.who.int/ith/updates/20140421/en/


It is very long and continually upgraded.

I just decided to point this out for the ignorant folks who have been shouting about screening.

3.1.4. Screening passengers at points of entry ( ports , airports or ground crossing) is not recommended

Screening of passengers at points of entry (arrival or departure) is costly and expected to have very limited impact because it is very unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD. This is particularly true for EVD with its incubation period of 2 to 21 days and symptoms that are not specific. As part of this, the use of thermal scanners that rely on the presence of ‘fever’ in arriving passengers is costly, unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD and is not encouraged.


Read and educate yourself

thegoodjoehunt3: Closing our borders, screening of passengers with Fever will not help. Our best bet is to get clinical trials of these experimental drugs from Japan's Tekmira and Fujifilm started.

ovadoze:
Yeah let's continue to blame GEJ, yeah he should have been at the airport to turn back Mr. Sawyer, he should have developed cure for Ebola virus by now, infact GEJ was supposed to carry gun and enter Sambisa forest to kill members of the BH, he shouldn't have killed Yusuf the founder of the islamic sect(Yaradua did), he shouldn't have allowed Buhari to overthrow the civilian govt of Shehu Shagari, he shouldn't have allowed the military to rule us for that long, he enthroned corruption in Nigeria, yes he did, he liquidated most Nigerian owned companies (NITEL and Nigerian airways comes to mind), blame him when u have dysmenorrhea, blame him when ur lecturer takes bribe, he's supposed to tell Islamic radicals that they shouldn't kill their fellow human being in the name of religion, blame him for the death of morals in the country, blame him for causing the civil war, blame him for the laziness and ineptitude of Nigerians, blame him when u fail exams, blame him for nailing Christ to the cross, blame him for all the things that happened in Nigeria before he was born, blame him for the amalgamation of northern and southern Nigeria. Keep blaming him.

jomonic: Vile forces in Nigeria are so vocal and relentless. Must GEJ be blamed for every wrong in Nigeria. If GEJ is not competent, what word can we use to describe other heads of state who we all know were worse that incompetent.

arewarepublic:

My friend, give up and stop dilly dallying.

EkoIle1:



Kind of daft and pointless...

jesuslovesme123:

"Goodluck" is being blamed for not mitigating the issue. Common sense should have told him to shut our borders to certain countries. But we all know that common sense is not very common.

naptu2:

It would have helped to prevent the disease from getting in. But you raise a very good point. Professor Iwu was working on a drug derived from bitter kola. The zmap drug is derived from tobacco, which like kolanuts also contains nicotine. How come we didn't support and fund this research to get it to clinical trials stage?

Now we have to hope that the Japanese or Americans graciously give us their experimental drugs (which they might be reluctant to do keeping in mind the Trovan experience).

AZeD1:
GEJ is the president of Nigeria, he volunteered for the job and he should take responsibilities for his action and inactions.

eaglechild:


lol
You want to take us back to that circle
You know you can always click on the link

I should not spoon feed you.
But i will just this last time.


3.1.4. Screening passengers at points of entry ( ports , airports or ground crossing) is not recommended

Screening of passengers at points of entry (arrival or departure) is costly and expected to have very limited impact because it is very unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD. This is particularly true for EVD with its incubation period of 2 to 21 days and symptoms that are not specific. As part of this, the use of thermal scanners that rely on the presence of ‘fever’ in arriving passengers is costly, unlikely to detect any arriving person infected with EVD and is not encouraged.

Travel restrictions, closure of borders at points of entry are not recommended

Sensitise staff working at “points of entry”, in healthcare settings or involved in first response (emergency departments, ambulance services, GP offices, fire department, civil defence, airport operators, aircraft operators, port health authority) for early and advanced symptoms of viral haemorrhagic fever.

Emphasize systematic recording in health clinics of travel history of those with relevant symptoms.

.Establish a standard diagnostic procedure for EVD and for common differential diagnoses at an early stage (e.g. malaria, dengue, typhoid fever, shigellosis, cholera, leptospirosis, plague, rickettsiosis, relapsing fever, meningitis, hepatitis, yellow fever and other viral haemorrhagic fevers).

Establish a protocol for notification to the competent public health authorities at an early stage if an EVD case is suspected.

Identify and establish laboratory procedures and operational channels to perform Ebola virus diagnostic testing in the country or refer to the closest WHO Collaborating Centre or reference laboratories able to perform viral haemorrhagic fever diagnostics if cases are suspected.

Ensure basic training of health care workers on principles of provisional barrier and use of personal protective equipment.Emphasize to personnel working in the travel sector the importance of infection control methods.
Keep the regulatory authorities (e.g. national civil aviation authority) informed and involved in decision-making.

thegoodjoehunt3: Closing our borders, screening of passengers with Fever will not help. Our best bet is to get clinical trials of these experimental drugs from Japan's Tekmira and Fujifilm started.

naptu2:

1) It says it's not recommended. Nowhere does it say that we can't close our borders and there are no consequences or penalties if we close our borders. You've also admitted that Guinea has closed its borders and Nigeria has banned flights, so it must be effective, so once again why didn't ee do this since April?


2) Sensitisation of immigration and port officials only started after Mr. Sawyer's case was detected, yet the guidelines say:



Sensitise staff working at “points of entry”, in healthcare settings or involved in first response (emergency departments, ambulance services, GP offices, fire department, civil defence, airport operators, aircraft operators, port health authority) for early and advanced symptoms of viral haemorrhagic fever.

Emphasize systematic recording in health clinics of travel history of those with relevant symptoms.

.Establish a standard diagnostic procedure for EVD and for common differential diagnoses at an early stage (e.g. malaria, dengue, typhoid fever, shigellosis, cholera, leptospirosis, plague, rickettsiosis, relapsing fever, meningitis, hepatitis, yellow fever and other viral haemorrhagic fevers).

Establish a protocol for notification to the competent public health authorities at an early stage if an EVD case is suspected.

Identify and establish laboratory procedures and operational channels to perform Ebola virus diagnostic testing in the country or refer to the closest WHO Collaborating Centre or reference laboratories able to perform viral haemorrhagic fever diagnostics if cases are suspected.

Ensure basic training of health care workers on principles of provisional barrier and use of personal protective equipment.Emphasize to personnel working in the travel sector the importance of infection control methods.
Keep the regulatory authorities (e.g. national civil aviation authority) informed and involved in decision-making.

ovadoze:
I don't entertain quotes from morons...gud9t

eaglechild:
You really like circles.

Phew!
Schooling you is exhausting but i will try my best.

I mentioned that these guidelines are continually upgraded.

I also mentioned that WHO has just declared EBV a Public Health emergency of International Concern prompting a laid down protocol of handling PHEICs to be activated.

This happened on 7th August.

naptu2: It's a simple and straightforward question. Do you agree that if we had put people from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea and people who had passed through these countries under surveillance and had treated them as high risk people and if we had equipped our immigration and airport officials with protective clothing, etc, that the chances of the disease spreading to the doctor, the nursing mother and God knows how many other people, would have been close to zero?