byrron:

This is the most painful part.

chukxie: America and its allies knew what they were doing when they instigated Libyans against Gaddafi. Unfortunately most Libyans were clueless to the real intentions of America and its co - conspirators of evil. Look at the pitiful state Libya has descended into. Before the capture and subsequent killing of Gaddafi most Libyans never experienced hunger or what it felt like to be without basic amenities. But now hunger, lack, insecurity and insurgency have become commonplace in Libya. Just recently America shut down its Embassy in Libya because the country has gotten too unsafe for even 'mighty' America to allow its citizens to remain in it. The long and expensive CIA covet missions to overthrow Gaddafi and plunge Libya into cataclysmic chaos has been achieved. So, the natural thing to do was to close shop and head home. Libya's fragile security body has been left alone to battle raising insurgency and incessant fighting between different armed militias. I'm sure a lot of Libyans who supported the removal and subsequent killing of Gaddafi are regretting their actions. Libya under Gaddafi was a prosperous, independent and powerful country. Libyans never lacked anything. The government provided everything they wanted. Hundreds of thousands of migrants and expats called Libya home. Today, sadly, the story is different all because of rapaciousness and jealousy by America and its allies. Look around the world and all you see is chaos caused by America. Look at Egypt. Look at Iraq. Look at Afghanistan. Iraq was a prosperous country under Saddam Hussein. His high handedness brought remarkable peace between Sunni and Shia Muslims; Kurds; Christians and other minorities. However, since the overthrowing, incarceration and subsequent hanging of Saddam Hussein Iraq has had little or no peace. The country is now divided along sectarian lines between Sunni and Shia Muslims. Suicide bombings have become ubiquitous. Hardly a day passes by without the news of someone killing innocent Iraqis by blowing himself/herself up. Just recently, the most dreaded terrorist group the world has ever seen [IS] registered its presence by taking control of large swathes of land in Iraq, by killing Christians and beheading anyone whose ideology was different from theirs. All these and more tragedies were caused by the greediness of America and its allies. Egypt is going through a difficult phase in its history and America and its allies are standing by as Egypt plunges into disarray.God will judge all deeds committed by man!

9jalyte:
Thank you my brother. Yesterday I was writing about this issues, I am glad people like you can read the hidden statements in the white smiles of the west. It was the same Libyan and Egyptian models of revolution that they experimented on Nigeria with the #bringbackourgirls# movement. Believe me, they were disappointed with the kind of response they got from Nigeria. They used all the tools they have, CNN and co, but I am glad Nigeria is unique in it's own way.
I have always maintained that I am scared of the kind of young people we have, who lack every sense of history, and can not decipher between mocking sympathy and true concern. Many were castigating govt for not allowing the oyibos to come and rescue the girls. The CNN was insulting our most respected soldiers, and govt. Nigerians joined the propagandists to make jokes with efforts of our soldiers and their authorities. Only a foolish child will disown the mother because she has epilepsy. They have adopted the psychological against Nigerians, to weaken every sense of Nigerianess in them, then they will try again, to use Nigerians to destroy Nigeria. but God will not let that happen. I only wish they few Nigerian youths that can reason can continue to counter these moves. I am more concerned about our northern brothers, because honestly, it is in the interest of the tyrannical countries that they remain the way they are. They will be willing tools in their manipulation moves etc. Eg, you can imagine how respected northern governors left Nigeria, west Africa, and Africa, to USA to report the president to their god-father, hoping that what will happen? It was an insult on them not on any other person. I wish they realize what they are sitting on.

sova: That was what d western world saw nd dey castigate im....They knew if he had succeeded,africa woulld av rule d world again.

Btruth: I think other African leaders should learn from this that no western government is to be trusted in solving their problems. Take for example, the case of the Boko Haram in nigeria, Nigeria government should try all his best in solving this problem without bringing in the international forces to assist them. God will save Africa from the western world. How I pity the Libyans now.

chidekings: during the war,i constantly tell my frnds that libya will regret missing gadaffi

ISpiksDaTroof: Just like Nigeria will regret never having made use of Buhari to corral the corrupt amongst your so-called big men because of tribalism and bigotry.

Youre the next Libya, its just a matter of months. 12 of them at the most. Bookmark this post.

Lordlexyy: A third world country surely don't appreciate the essence of freedom. What is shelter, cloth, money and other free gifts from gov't when your personal freedom is subjected? What were those free this, free that when Libyans were constantly living in terror? Libyans didn't have a say of their own. Gaddaffis men, sons, relatives and aids were running everything while Libyans were constantly being monitored against making any remark on the head of state. It was hell in Libya. They were practically living in a cage without the right to make contributions or express themselves. Life is not all about houses, cars, free medical or school. Life is about expression and freedom of association. We shouldn't become too conscious of material things against our personal rights and opinions. It's even on record that Ghadafi was a major sponsor of Islamic terrorists. Those were among some of the reasons he was toppled. Like every other sectarian upheaval definitely, his loyalists who were thrusted out would want to farment trouble hence the skirmashes in Libya. Libyans deserve times ten(10) what Ghadafi was offering considering their population and the interest accrue to their oil. For those who don't know, it was in Ghadafis' plan to rule and Islamised Africa funding several terrorist arms. Ghadafi was like an over spoilt child with too much money to throw around without caution. The west saw into his threat and did the needful. Hopefuly, Libyans will bounce back stronger than before from this jihadist.

Chubhie: Libyians wanted to go to the clubs and watch N aked women and drink booze. That is their definition of freedom and now they are gonna enjoy every bit of it. Gadahfi had his short falls but as a Nationalistic leader you can't fault him. If our own govt can only give the masses constant electricity all good and well cos d masses never asked for too much. Libyan freedom and Nigeria freedom which would you wish for?

ISpiksDaTroof: Just like Nigeria will regret never having made use of Buhari to corral the corrupt amongst your so-called big men because of tribalism and bigotry.

Youre the next Libya, its just a matter of months. 12 of them at the most. Bookmark this post.

emiye:

You have a point, but it will be difficult to convince most Nigerians. Human wants are insatiable, the day human has all the freedom he can get,but lacks basic needs of life, the freedom is absolutely worthless, and when he has abundantly all the basic needs of life, but little or no freedom, Liberty looks like the most expensive thing in the world..


"Give us Liberty or we die" is what Libyans echoed through the revolution.

9jalyte:
Thank you my brother. Yesterday I was writing about this issues, I am glad people like you can read the hidden statements in the white smiles of the west. It was the same Libyan and Egyptian models of revolution that they experimented on Nigeria with the #bringbackourgirls# movement. Believe me, they were disappointed with the kind of response they got from Nigeria. They used all the tools they have, CNN and co, but I am glad Nigeria is unique in it's own way.
I have always maintained that I am scared of the kind of young people we have, who lack every sense of history, and can not decipher between mocking sympathy and true concern. Many were castigating govt for not allowing the oyibos to come and rescue the girls. The CNN was insulting our most respected soldiers, and govt. Nigerians joined the propagandists to make jokes with efforts of our soldiers and their authorities. Only a foolish child will disown the mother because she has epilepsy. They have adopted the psychological against Nigerians, to weaken every sense of Nigerianess in them, then they will try again, to use Nigerians to destroy Nigeria. but God will not let that happen. I only wish they few Nigerian youths that can reason can continue to counter these moves. I am more concerned about our northern brothers, because honestly, it is in the interest of the tyrannical countries that they remain the way they are. They will be willing tools in their manipulation moves etc. Eg, you can imagine how respected northern governors left Nigeria, west Africa, and Africa, to USA to report the president to their god-father, hoping that what will happen? It was an insult on them not on any other person. I wish they realize what they are sitting on.

chidekings:


on which side are u

ISpiksDaTroof:

On the side of Liberty, Justice and Social equality for all.

barcanista: stfu... Buhari is no God. The same buhari that denied press freedom or the one that used Koboko to flog adults in the name of War Against Indiscipline? Or is it the Buhari that truncated a democracy? Is it the Buhari that said Abacha wasn't corrupt but should be celebrated? Guy I am sympathetic to APC but Buhari is a bad market.

ISpiksDaTroof:

Pity yourself, youre next on the chopping block. Your rampant corruption, general ignorance, tribalism and religious intolerance has made it unavoidably so.

Btruth: Well, in that case, may I remind you that there are some battles that the rulers of this world cannot win. Though, in respect of the challenges and tribulations, but with God's wisdom we are sure to be settle with peace.

Lordlexyy: A third world country surely don't appreciate the essence of freedom. What is shelter, cloth, money and other free gifts from gov't when your personal freedom is subjected? What were those free this, free that when Libyans were constantly living in terror? Libyans didn't have a say of their own. Gaddaffis men, sons, relatives and aids were running everything while Libyans were constantly being monitored against making any remark on the head of state. It was hell in Libya. They were practically living in a cage without the right to make contributions or express themselves. Life is not all about houses, cars, free medical or school. Life is about expression and freedom of association. We shouldn't become too conscious of material things against our personal rights and opinions. It's even on record that Ghadafi was a major sponsor of Islamic terrorists. Those were among some of the reasons he was toppled. Like every other sectarian upheaval definitely, his loyalists who were thrusted out would want to farment trouble hence the skirmashes in Libya. Libyans deserve times ten(10) what Ghadafi was offering considering their population and the interest accrue to their oil. For those who don't know, it was in Ghadafis' plan to rule and Islamised Africa funding several terrorist arms. Ghadafi was like an over spoilt child with too much money to throw around without caution. The west saw into his threat and did the needful. Hopefuly, Libyans will bounce back stronger than before from this jihadist.

barcanista: @ SpiksDaTroof : STFU modafvker I don't argue Nigeria Politics with non-Nigerian. I don't Care where you are from a either...

NgeneUkwenu:

Man calm down! The guy floored you big time with a more logical argument! The biggest problem with Nigeria today is corruption *fact*! With corruption gone, every other thing would fall in place! Argue like a learned person as you used to and stop infecting yourself with PDP reasoning mentality! If you don't know, Buhari Remains the Face Of The Opposition.

ISpiksDaTroof:

I dont know what it is with the water they feed you id*iots down there that cant make you argue your points in a logical and concise manner. Instead, most times---like youve done above---you usually come out swinging (like you did with your opening "STFU" salvo), then by the second sentence you expose yourself as a complete mor*on.

1. I never said Buhari was any kind of "God". All I alluded to was that hes the least corrupt of all your politicians and corruption is the number one killer of Nigeria's development.

2. I bet anything that you werent born when Buhari was in power. And even if you were, from what you wrote above, theres no way you couldnt have been more than a baby that didnt know his nuts from his earlobes.

3. Buhari "truncated democracy", how?! Tell me how accepting a offer (one he couldnt refuse) to Head a Govt after mutinous officers had carried out a putsch equates to him truncating democracy? Oh, he shouldve rejected the offer Shagaya, Domkat Bali, Abacha, IBB and co made to him after theyd overthrown the Govt? Yes, refuse to head the new Govt as a "True" soldier then get shot at the stakes because they dont know where his loyalty lies or do the smart thing and enforce his own ideas once Supreme Power lies with him? See how dumb you are? Let me school you a bit about that period:

i. Buhari did not carry out a coup.

ii. Buhari was offered the post of Head of State by the coupists because he was the most Senior Officer.

iii. The coupists "offered" Buhari that post because they did not trust themselves, they were all rank mates (but Buhari's Juniors), and to give it some "legitimacy" and the Public the outlook of a "clean" Govt (unlike the absolutely corrupt one of Shagari which they had just sacked) because of Buhari's perceived incorruptible nature.

iv. All decisions were taken by the Supreme Military Council which Buhari Headed. Buhari, never, and could not make decisions alone.

v. Nigerians were grossly indisciplined (like you all are still to this day--- what with your shi*tting in public and what not) and because of their stubborn nature and hate of change or civility some measure of force (unfortunately) had to be applied to make them toe the line of orderliness.

vi. The freedom of the press was denied, and rightfully so. It was a tense period and the public was on edge, a new Govt was in place, and members of the old corrupt govt had so much cash at hand they couldve mani*pulated the press and fed propaganda to the people, thereby inciting them against their rulers. Today, we see how politicians use monies stolen from Govt Treasury is used to, not only tell lies in the newspapers by buying the press, but also how it is used to pay jobless youths to sit on computers and spread propaganda in favor of the Goodluck Jonathan Govt. As of today, Wednesday, August 13,2014 in Ferguson, MO---in the great United States of America--- one of our most fundamental and sacred rights in the Constitution--- the First Amendment (Freedom of Association, Freedom of Press etc) has been put on hold over riots that have erupted in that area in the last two days. The press has been asked to leave and has been barred from covering the events there, The National Guard has been called in, and the airspace is a 'NO-Fly Zone'. If all that can happen in a society thats 1Billion times more organized than yours, and 1Gazillion times more civilized---OVER RIOTS---imagine what was necessary when dealing with corrupt men that had enough cash to start a war in the country if they got the chance.

vii. Buhari was not liked because he wasnt corrupt and was eventually kicked out of office---in the same bloodless manner like the one that took out his predecessor---by the very people who had earlier put him in charge.


4. Show me empirical, credible, and unequivocal proof (i.e video/voice recording) where Buhari said Abacha was not corrupt or never looted. When positing, please do not refer me to the junk writings and laughable crunk rubbish from the clowns you refer to as journalists in your country.

5. Buhari is "Bad Market"?! Youre a political neophyte. Show me ONE politician, just one, in Nigeria today that can battle GEJ vote for vote with less than 6months to go in the Presidential Elections. Remember, campaigns should be in full frenzy by now. You really think outside of Western Nigeria people know Fashola? Or you think Rochas would get votes outside of his home hamlet? GEJs plans are working well: He has weakened the North by letting the insurgency flourish (to his own detriment now), and hes delaying declaration for a second term so he that can not only gauge who is opponent will be(before putting rigging plans in motion) , but also reduce whoever it is' ability to campaign properly since its so close to the elections. Everyone already knows GEJ as President; he doesnt need to do much campaigning. The other man that doesnt need to do much campaigning either because hes also well known is Buhari; thats the only man GEJ fears. Partner Buhari with a solid V.P running mate and watch GEJ crumble. Pit GEJ against Fashola, Rochas, Oshiomole or Kwankwaso and watch them get routed in the easiest of eases by PDP.

Go learn your country, boy.




p.s: Whyre you telling me youre "sympathetic to APC" like I should care? I do not like any of the Political Parties in Your part of the world, but were I eligible to vote, if APC (being the lesser of the two evils) put Buhari forward as its candidate, I would not hesitate to cast my ballot for him.

barcanista: No way, I deliberately discontinued with him when he said he isn't a Nigerian. I will Open a Thread on Why Buhari's Candidacy should be questioned by APC. I don't argue Nigerian Politics with some freaks that has nothing at stake. That's me

NgeneUkwenu:

The guy has a dual citizenship! And everything he puts down never betrayed his deep understanding of the political issues back home! Stop opening divisive threads to castigate Buhari! APC is trying to be pragmatic, hence the seeming decision to present a winnable combo-the incorruptible. Buhari and a Governor. You should have asked yourself, why do PDP online agents spend hours daily to malign Buhari Name? Why do jonathan so Afraid of Buhari? Why do the international community more comfortable with a Buhari's candidacy? Why do PDP online hired agents always advise you to present Fashola or Kwankwaso? Do you think they Love APC more than APC? Think brother think!!!

ISpiksDaTroof:

God has already given you a brain so you can use your own wisdom. Stop thinking you can tap into God's brain. Use yours.