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Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
The drug is fake. We do not know the name of the scientist who sent it,what he does for a living....and whether the drug has been proven in a lab or in phase 1-3 testing to work. 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Amack(m): 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
God will protect us all from this deadly virus called ebola Amen. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by UrbanMystique: 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya: FDA warns of fraudulent Ebola drug claimsfhuck America and it's propaganda website.. because the drug is being discovered by black African they want to do everything to undermine it because it would decrease the income they are going to make on their useless zmapp |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by CaptBarbosa: 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Dear Stella, http://www.stelladimokokorkus.com/2014/08/ebola-and-nanosilver-must-read.html#more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZsDF0B7cU 3 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Bryan12(m): 2:43pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
We shall Overcome!*in martin luther's voice* |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by 50calibre(m): 2:44pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
ritababe: What american can do, african can do it better, Stop deceiving yourself lady, the guy may bear a Nigerian name or even a Nigerian citizenship, but in essence he's not really a Nigerian. He is in America, he used the knowledge imparted on him by America, the research, development and trial of the drug was done using American facilities.... So I don't see how Nigeria could claim him as one of their own. Technically he's an American so be thankful to America. 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:44pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: fhuck America and it's propaganda website.. because the drug is being discovered by black African they want to do everything to undermine it because it would decrease the income they are going to make on their useless zmapp Can you tell me the name of the Nigerian scientist who developed the drug....and what research has been done on it? 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:45pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Whoever is responsible for this is BOLD AS HELL. This is how little they think of Nigerians. And this nameless Nigerian in the diaspora supposedly invented nanosilver. Who wrote this? 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by nora544: 2:46pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
ceejayluv: It is dangerous we had a documentary in the TV in my country about nano products and what is dangerous and I remember it. Somebody want to get rich quick 2 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: fhuck America and it's propaganda website.. because the drug is being discovered by black African they want to do everything to undermine it because it would decrease the income they are going to make on their useless zmapp Are you rétarded? Reuters is not American. Use your fùcking brain, you móron. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
The Nano Silver tech was developed by Samsung in 2003 not by a Nigerian in diaspora.. it was used in washing machines to impregnate clothes with nano-silver particles to kill bacteria and inhibit further growth. it has been used in humans but there remains a huge gap of unknown negative effects on the brain and ecological system. it can sterilize kill bacteria but also harm useful microbes essential for growth of other organisms in the ecological landscape.. Naija i tire http://www.beyondpesticides.org/antibacterial/nano.php 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by UrbanMystique: 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
bushdoc9919:I don't know... But the speed at which America refuted the claim, you will know there is something suspicious about it.. I have known about nano silver though but wouldn't swallow everything America says 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by UrbanMystique: 2:48pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya:the person that refuted the claim is from which country again? |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by ceejayluv(m): 2:49pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
nora544:Yeah... It's sad that our minister of health could fall for (or perpetrate) such scam ... 2 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:51pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: I don't know... But the speed at which America refuted the claim, you will know there is something suspicious about it.. Dear fucking god. Of course they refuted it. Believe it or not, some of us EVIL Americans care about the lives of other people. Not to mention, any REAL reporter with SENSE would research such an unbelievable claim before blindly parroting it. Like I just did, with a simple Google search. Do I have ulterior motives too? After that, how easy would it be to call a health official for some respectable, credible quotes? This is called JOURNALISM. I'm glad there was an immediate response, or people would have been fooled. This is the kind of shít that gives Nigerians a bad name. I can't believe the audacity and shamelessness of these scammers. 4 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by 50calibre(m): 2:52pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
GenBuhari: You're still here spreading jargon, someone please ban this lunatic from commenting on any Heath thread. His comments endanger public safety as few gullible Nigerians could actually be misled by this lunatic. 1 Like |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:52pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Who na no dy read between the lines? A nigerian scientist in diaspora! Our scientist at home who have bagged phds,mscs,dvds,bscs,ppp,uuu,nl,fb,twt,etc what have dy done so far? (I guess they still can't find the cure) na strike and salary increment dem dy look for! If na me be Jona sef, I go agree to do whatever dy want only if dem go fit produce ebola treatment drugs! |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by nora544: 2:53pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
ceejayluv: My daughter is a scientist and her professor at the University is one of the scientist who found Zmap, (Herta STeinkellner) that is why I know so much about it. and I try to give the information I get in my country to nigeria, because I know we have the right informations. 2 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:54pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
From this article and product description, this Nano Silver thingy is ANTI-BACTERIAL not ANTI-VIRAL....or did I read a different article? For all I know, Ebola is viral not bacterial. Tell us another story plssss! 3 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by debrihachi(f): 2:54pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
benbuks:*quickly wears hand gloves n rain coat* |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:55pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
I was making rounds at the hospital and, for some strange reason, I was being asked about influenza. No, this is not going to be an entry on influenza. But I was asked if there was anything besides the vaccines that can prevent influenza. Masks and good hand washing will help, I said. Anything else? A nurse suggested colloidal silver. I said there was nothing to colloidal silver. With what I would describe as a withering look, she opined that not only had she never had the flu because she took colloidal silver, but that she has a friend whose tumor has been in remission for 6 years because of colloidal silver. She had to respond to an alarm and I had to move on to the next patient, so we yet had an opportunity to converse further on the topic. Which is good because it occurred to be I did not know much about colloidal silver beyond the fact it can turn you blue. So this entry in my attempt to prepare for my next discussion with a colloidal silver proponent. Silver is an antiseptic, not an antibiotic. It has the advantage of most antiseptics in that organisms do not easily become resistant. It does kill a large number of pathogens and is used clinically. Silver is impregnated into catheters to prevent infections. Silver nitrate has been put in the eyes of newborns to prevent gonorrhea. Various formulations of silver have been tried to aid wound healing, with little effect and Silvadene, silver sulfadiazine, has long been used to treat burns, although its efficacy, when compared to everything from honey to aloe, is often found wanting. So there is variable clinical data to perhaps supporting use of some forms of silver to treat or prevent some infections. I will admit to an affinity to suggesting honey and or sugar for chronic wounds; that should be a topic for another post. There are also uses of silver for water purification. So there are legitimate reasons to use silver as an antiseptic. Ancient wisdom is always a guide for therapy. Cupping. Bleeding. Purging. Popular therapies back in the day. Silver containers was used by ancients to keep water and other fluids fresh. I cannot find independent verification of this fact, perhaps they kept water in silver because silver is pretty and rare and good for demonstrating wealth, and we are attributing its antiseptic properties retroactively. Nor can I find independent verification that Royals were called blue bloods due to chronic silver exposure from their eating utensils. Odd that colloidal silver sites would mention this, since it is evidence of toxicities they deny occurs in other sections of the same websites. The use of apocryphal information appears to be standard in the colloidal silver ‘literature’. It is rare to have so little verifiable information about a treatment. As I have discussed before, users of alternative therapies are not comfortable with nuance and subtlety, and, I think, prefer black and white binary approaches. Mercury in one form is toxic, so all forms of mercury are toxic. Some forms of silver are beneficial, so all forms of silver of benefit, including colloidal silver. The inability to deal with shades of gray is a hallmark of many forms of alternative therapy. As best I can tell, silver was used as a medicine for years by grinding it up and suspending it in water. The problem is that the silver is not dissolved but is a suspension and it rapidly settles out of solution. What people were looking for at the turn of the century was a way to keep the silver in suspension. Colloids occur when one substance is evenly distributed in another without being dissolved, like antibodies or albumin in blood. Or fat in milk. Proteins like albumin have the advantage of binding metals like silver and allow them to stay in suspension for long periods of time. “The broader commercial definition of “colloidal silver” includes products that contain various concentrations of ionic silver, silver colloids, ionic silver compounds or bound proteins in purified water. Colloidal silver with concentrations of 30 parts per million (ppm) or less are typically manufactured using an electrolysis process, whereas colloidal silver with higher concentrations of 50 ppm or more are usually silver compounds that have been bound with a protein.” In the form of colloidal silver it is ingested for various alleged health benefits, especially to treat infections. How many infections? “Colloidal Silver safely kills over 650 disease-causing bacteria, viruses, fungi, parasites, and molds, has no negative side-effects.” 650! Wow! Where does that number come from? It, evidently was pulled out of thin air in a 1976 Science Digest article entitled “Our mightiest germ fighter“which was a discussion of of of not colloidal silver, but silver sulfadiazine, aka silvadene and other topical uses of silver. And nowhere in the article is 650 validated. It was a number that appears to have been invented by the headline writer. Not that Science Digest is peer reviewed journal and has to reference their headline. But that 650 has taken on a life of its own. Like 98.6 being normal body temperature. Many of the colloidal silver sites trumpet this on their websites (43,000 Google hits for “Colloidal Silver kills over 650″ as a search term.” 650 is so sciency, even if made up. Could silver kill 650 various and sundry organisms? I would not be surprised if it were the right concentration. Silver is toxic to cells, so it should kill germs. And it does. Like mercury or gold. In its elemental form they are toxic and will kill living things at the right concentration. As will isopropal alcohol; ingestion may not be such a good idea. Many chemicals can kill a wide variety of bacteria in the test tube. The question is whether they have the same effects in humans and or animals. [b]If you look on Pubmed for the antimicrobial effects of colloidal silver, I find nothing. No test tube studies, no animal models, no case reports, no clinical trials. As far as the medical industrial complex is concerned there is, outside of toxicities, no supporting data of any kind for the use of colloidal silver. The interwebs does allow access to susceptibility tests of colloidal silver that are published by the companies that make colloidal silver products. However, conflict of interest is not part of the alt med world, so we do not need to worry about their validity. Sarcasm aside, the studies are growth of bacteria in various concentrations of colloidal silver products and as the concentrations increase, the bacteria die more rapidly. That’s the usual dose-effect of a poison. They also tout that bacteria can’t become resistant to silver. Always a mistake, for to misquote the Borg, resistance is inevitable as E. coli has demonstrated. So there is no data to support silver to treat infections. What about cancer? It is suggested, with often identical wording on website after website, that “Dr. Bjorn Nordstrom, of the Karolinska Institute, Sweden, has used Silver in his cancer cure method, for many years. This brought rapid remission in patients given up on by other doctors.” I do not know who was first with this sentence so I am uncertain whom to credit with the first use of this phrase. But here is the weird thing. Although Dr. Nordstom is credited with the same breakthrough with exactly the same sentence in site after site, I can find no English language reference that confirms there is a Bjorn Nordstrom or any details as to how he uses silver for a cancer cure. Dr Nordstum has not published on Pubmed. The only reference on the interwebs to a Dr Nordstom is in Swedish. If someone can translate http://www.cancerochallergifonden.se/priset1998.html we may find out more. The Swedish word for silver, silvret, is not on the page. I suspect, from reading the Swedish, he may be married to Betty Crocker. So for what diseases is there evidence for which colloidal silver is efficacious? Well, nothing. Pubmed is silent on taking colloidal silver to benefit any disease, infection or otherwise. There are no clinical trials to show efficacy. Nothing. [/b] There is, however, little to suspect that colloidal silver, taken orally, would be of benefit. There are not even basic pharmacokinetic studies to show how much of a given colloidal silver preparation is absorbed. Nothing. We know it is absorbed, as there are multiple cases of argyria reported in the literature. Argyria is where the silver gets irreversibly into the skin and you turn not silver but blue or blue gray. It is an unusual side effect, but the only documented effect of prolonged ingestion colloidal silver. If you Google colloidal silver, you will find multiple sites where you can purchase various formulations of colloidal silver with variable concentrations of silver. All of the purveyors of these substances agree that theirs is the one true formulation for silver and that the others are flawed with the wrong size of silver molecule or the wrong preparation. Which one is truly the true silver colloid? All. Or none I would suppose. One seller (many of these people really need a web designer) sells increasing concentrations of colloidal sliver, with the higher concentrations for the most cost (1500 dollars for 6 bottles) to treat ” Severe Infections and Life and Death Infections Ebola, Dengue Fever, Malaria, SARS, West Nile at a dose of 1-3 tablespoon (15-45 cc) every 4 hours”. There appears to be as many silver formulations as there are silver sellers, and if you are a do it yourself kind of person, you can make your own colloidal silver. What perpetuates the use of colloidal silver are testimonials, like the nurse who suggested silver to prevent H1N1. The interwebs are filled with unsubstantiated testimonials, for common infections and unusual infections, with one gentleman crediting colloidal silver, rather than the vancomycin and gentamyin, for the cure of his subdural empyema (pus between the brain and skull). The FDA, with little effect to judge from the interwebs, has declared that colloidal silver is neither safe nor effective and, as an unclassified drug, cannot be sold for medical reasons. More at: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/hi-ho-silver/ |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:55pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: the person that refuted the claim is from which country again? Try not to be an idíot. Anyone with brains who read that thing was immediately skeptical. It's not just Americans who can think. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by remmer56(m): 2:56pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
onitshaigbo: ^^^ lol.. thanks for the good laugh. You are a slowpoke you know... [color=#006600][/color] |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Redstone(m): 2:56pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
onitshaigbo: Shut up, I am totally disappointed at your tribal bigotry. Please if you don't have anything tangible to contribute, get off the thread. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by UrbanMystique: 2:56pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya:shut the fhuck up nitwit... America is the only country that has research facilities or have intelligent people that make research right? Or it's only America that cares about human lives. The same America that waited for over 900 people to die before releasing the test drug they have with them... Please tell that to your fellow American butt lickers 3 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:56pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya: FDA warns of fraudulent Ebola drug claims i guess that settles it, its a fraud!! Back to where it was. Bitter truth. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by jojoki: 2:58pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
God almighty please make this Nano Silva drug a permanent cure for EVD, for once let good thing come out of Nigeria and Africa as a Nations. put a total end to negativity which is always attached to Black race. Amen |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:58pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Profayo: Where are our consultant pharmacists o?u re st pid.! Is he a medcali doc. Or medical scientist? If nt why d mockery on pharmacist.dr ,becos dey heard of ebola and decided to resign in d name of strike.useless drs. |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by nora544: 2:58pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: fhuck America and it's propaganda website.. because the drug is being discovered by black African they want to do everything to undermine it because it would decrease the income they are going to make on their useless zmapp Please use google and search and than you will find that this product is well known since a long time. It is not a propaganda website it iws the bitter truth. Open your eyes and read that is the same with praying and fasting that will heal! 4 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by anonimi: 3:03pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya: "A Nigerian contagious disease expert, Dr. Simon Agwale, had said that Nano Silva had proven effective against viruses, bacteria, and parasites. “It may be also a source of a cure” for Ebola patients, Agwale said." The web site of indiamart.com does NOT have Nano Silva. Rather they have Nano Silica. Big difference, innit 2 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by UrbanMystique: 3:03pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MissMeiya:you see you are the mo.r0n now? Who refuted the claim? Who painted nano silver bad right from the beginning? How many people has nano silver killed? Same way the west says our own herbal medicines are bad and your fellow dunces accepted right? Do you want me to start dancing around cos a food agency in America say something is bad? Is it not the same America and West that always love to relegate every black achievement? Use your dead brain for once 3 Likes |
Re: Nano Silver To End Ebola Vírus In Nigeria! by Nobody: 3:04pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
This is why I can't stand NL mods. This is the bullshít they bring to the front page, but VALID, BREAKING NEWS idles away for weeks. 3 Likes |
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