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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by VantagePoint: 6:31pm On Aug 21, 2014
GenBuhari: [size=28pt]Propaganda - he never had Ebola[/size]
People like you are why our scientific and technological advances are where they are now.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 21, 2014
All what people have died in where?

Other than Patrick Sawyer , what other person that has died that is not a member of the Liberian govt or a doctor working in the Ebola centres are you aware of? that could be verified their ID and that they have definately died from ebola?

It is all propaganda
annoymous:

Let me tell you something. all these your conspiracy theories are beginning to sound silly and trite.
So, all the people who have died in Liberia never had ebola too abi? Patrick sawyer never had ebola, abi? this doctor that was taking care of ebola patients never had ebola abi? I have nothing more to say.
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 21, 2014
GenBuhari: Ebola epidemic in West Africa is a hoax

Can you imagine that all this publicity and hysteria is because 3 or four people have allegedly died from an alleged disease that is allegedly less contagious than measles? and less deadly than rabies.


Shine your eyes.

The reason the american Doctors "survived" is to promote the experimental vaccines / drugs or whatever, they want to use to experiment on a panicked Nigeria / West Africa either for the purposes of find willing experimental laboratory "guinea pigs" to test dangerous medicines on or to eventually make profits selling us dangerous fake vaccines which lead to far more actual deaths than the hoaxed deaths they are claiming Ebola is responsible for.

And Ebola can be beaten by simple preventive measures.

Rabies and Measlescan be easily treated.....the only people who die of rabies are those who do not get the rabies vaccine immediately after being bitten. Measles kills those who don't get treated.

Ebola kills because....1.)It attacks the T-cells.....white cells important in the immune response. 2.)It interferes with the body's clotting mechanism.

Still,if preventive measures are carried out....Ebola can be stopped. (And that is the reason why it will never spread in America....where a patient with common typhoid is immediately isolated and treated in a isolation unit).

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by hotmolo(m): 6:39pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

Well, there are reasons.....

1. The drug has only been made for lab tests so far – not for countering an epidemic
Less than 100 doses of the drug are currently available. So far the ZMapp serum has only been manufactured in quantities suitable for small-scale tests – most recently on 20 monkeys.However, it is effective – in limited animal tests so far ZMapp has been successful. When administered to monkeys one hour after infection, all animals survived. Two-thirds of the animals were protected even when the ZMapp treatment was administered 48 hours after infection.

2. ZMapp is made by a small San Diego pharmaceutical company, with only 9 employees…
Mapp has only nine employees – to put that into perspective, pharma giant Pfizer has 78,000. Mapp just doesn’t immediately have the capacity to scale up.“The manufacturer has been planning for phase 1 clinical trials and does not have the capacity to manufacture large quantities of the treatment,” says the US Center for Disease Control.

3. It’s not just a case of mixing some chemicals together
More importantly, making ZMapp is not a case of swirling some chemicals together in a test-tube. The monoclonal antibodies in ZMapp have to be produced from specially-grown and harvested cells.The special cells were initially made by fusing human cells with those taken from a mouse infected with ebola. After careful nurturing and selection, cells able to produce antibodies are cloned. These hybrid cells are then placed inside tobacco leaves. Why leaves? They act as a nurturing environment where the cells can reproduce and thrive. Initially mice were used to produce the antibody-rich liquid. Using leaves is quicker and cheaper.But even then, it’s not just a case of squeezing the leaves out – once the liquid is extracted from the leaves, it has to be purified and tested for strength.Then the antibodies have to be modified to be more acceptable to the human immune system.

See more at this NairaLand thread....

https://www.nairaland.com/1867357/ebola-drug-5-reasons-experimental
very sensibl reply. Am convinced.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Omen100(m): 6:40pm On Aug 21, 2014
dustydee: May not be the drug but the management care given to him.
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:41pm On Aug 21, 2014
Ebola if it exists at all is not airborne so it can be no more contagious than hepatitis.
bushdoc9919:

And Ebola can be beaten by simple preventive measures.

Rabies and Measlescan be easily treated.....the only people who die of rabies are those who do not get the rabies vaccine immediately after being bitten. Measles kills those who don't get treated.

Ebola kills because....1.)It attacks the T-cells.....white cells important in the immune response. 2.)It interferes with the body's clotting mechanism.

Still,if preventive measures are carried out....Ebola can be stopped. (And that is the reason why it will never spread in America....where a patient with common typhoid is immediately isolated and treated in a isolation unit).
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:55pm On Aug 21, 2014
GenBuhari: Ebola if it exists at all is not airborne so it can be no more contagious than hepatitis.

Some viruses are more equal than others.

Hepatitis B virus causes a short lived disease in people unlucky to be infected with it. Most infected people clear the virus from their system.

Hepatits C is harder to clear....and it causes a very horrible form of liver cancer in some of the infected(Had to help treat someone with that cancer once.......not one of my most pleasant memories)

And hepatitis fortunately is not airborne. Hepatitis A is spread faeco-orally. B through intimate pleasures and C though blood transfusions and intimate pleasures. (There is also D,E,F and G).

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by n1bogo: 6:56pm On Aug 21, 2014
Thank God.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ibe9ja: 7:12pm On Aug 21, 2014
dustydee: May not be the drug but the management care given to him.

What is this one saying? And who are those that gave his post 9 'likes'? Next time you guys have malaria use management care without any drugs and let's see if you can post again in NL.
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2014
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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by bayulala(m): 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2014
Happy to hear that the Guy made it.
But on a second thought,why did America refused us the Zmapp drug to atleast treat Dr.Adadevoh?
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Aizebioje(m): 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2014
moneybag100:
Are you wiser than those that discharged him.
I will not dignify this with an answer!
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by texazzpete(m): 7:32pm On Aug 21, 2014
ibe9ja:

What is this one saying? And who are those that gave his post 9 'likes'? Next time you guys have malaria use management care without any drugs and let's see if you can post again in NL.

Malaria is caused by a protozoa parasite. Ebola fever is caused by the Ebola virus. Both diseases have nothing in common. Why are you bringing up Malaria in an Ebola discussion?

There are verified facts avoid Ebola that thousands of people have been tweeting, posting and shouting for weeks now. One of them is that the disease does not have 100% mortality rate and a percentage of victims will survive with Decent care (for example keeping the patient hydrated) and a healthy slice of luck. Yet you're here proudly airing your ignorance without shame.

Empty and shameless vessels make the loudest noises Indeed. Please leave here and go post in some other topics where you can contribute meaningfully with your meager IQ.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by murphyd: 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2014
I think the doc shld still b kept for a while for proper accessment to ascertain if truly he has been free from the virus
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by TheShopKeeper(m): 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2014
The US & western countries owes us nothing. We in africa have all the resources & expertise to develop our health & research facilities. We should ask our leaders what have been done with all the funds & budgets for health.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Ishilove: 7:47pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

He did....here is the reason why he survivied

[size=17pt]1.He had early supportive treatment....recommendations by WHO state that as soon as the patient is diagnosed....the treatment with IV fluids, antibiotics, etc must start early.

2.Patients with a particular immune response do better than those without that particular response. That was the result of a study done on Gabonese patients.; in brief patients with an Immunoglobulin type M based response survive.

Also, those who are deficient in the NPC-1 receptor on their cells survive Ebola.

3.Finally, the patient recieved an infusion of serum from the survivor of Ebola fever....a young black Liberian.

4.And it must be noted he was one of several hundred survivors......
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No conspiracy.....just some good science .

So Doc, how do we know if we have Imunnogoblin type M recetpor immune system (or worrefa)?
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Songitto(m): 7:53pm On Aug 21, 2014
"To the extent that we've tested, there is no evidence of Ebola virus in their bodies," Ribner said.

Asked whether the experimental drugs used on the patients
helped improve their survival, he said, "The honest answer is we have no idea

Imagine....US with their braveness.
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by BodyKiss(m): 7:53pm On Aug 21, 2014
lastpage:

Exactly my Thoughts!

Our Doctor was sick, their own Doctors were also sick!
Both require treatment.

They allowed their own Doctors to use the "risky experimental ZMapp" ..and he eventually got healed.
We requested for just a few doses to treat our own God-given Dr. Adadeivo ....but they refused to share it with us!

Instead, they sent it to Liberia.

Now, our own Doctor has died (and for every Doctor that dies, many lives will follow, as she could have saved close to 50,000 lives in her life-time, she she were to be ALIVE!)

Honestly, if we are half as smart as the Apes which the White Americans call us, we would begin to IMPROVE OURSELVES and CHOSE OUR FRIENDS CAREFULLY!

Lastpage!


Wow, all I can say is that your brain is NOT working. Channel your anger to the right direction... your stvpid leaders.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 7:54pm On Aug 21, 2014
Ishilove:
So Doc, how do we know if we have Imunnogoblin type M recetpor immune system (or worrefa)?

Unfortunately.....there is no test to determine how one may respond to the ebola virus. Most of what we know of the immune response to Ebola comes from a study, done in Gabon,comparing the immune systems of those who survived the 1996 epidemic there vs those who died.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by nora544: 8:29pm On Aug 21, 2014
In my country we search at the University not only on ebola also the west nil virus they search and HIV.

But when I read that their is a new fake story in the internet that a person who was in Liberia and later traveld to tansania got healt what should the world think about such a country when they believe such fake stories like this fake pastor who was in south africa and could heal and could also heal Ebola at a time when no body know about Ebola, this stories write nigerian Pastors.

The goverment of Nigeria know it since April that Ebola was very close why they don't test people when they come to nigeria if they have fever, they start with this after this man come to nigeria.

this week two men from Nigeria come in my country, and they had fever and go to the doctor, what did the doctor they must go with a special car to the hospital and after they had tested negative on Ebola they could leave the hospital, they have malaria what is not a problem.

You are crying why you didnot get the drug, ask your goverment why they didnot protect nigeria better.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by mbulela: 8:38pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

There is a reason why Zmapp is limited.......and this article does a good job of explaining it.

Excerpt below...


Also....why should our doctors (or the Liberian doctors )get Zmapp....and not one of the hundreds of sick people

We have been repeating this argument but I wonder why people do not get it or choose to not get it.
Besides,there is even no guarantee that the guy was cured by Zmapp. Ebola does not have 100% fatality,that means some people still recover from it. What if he was just one of them? What of the Nigerians that were discharged without taking Zmapp?

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by mbulela: 8:50pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

I concur....

As I told someone else on another thread....we vote them in...then we go home and sit down....forgetting that in a democracy....voting is just one half of the job.The other half is to remind the elected leader why we voted him or her in constantly.....so that s/he would get scared and perform!
I respect your view but it is simply idealistic.
Some people are willing to accept bad governance as long as it is their tribesman in power.
Did you see how many chieftancy titles have been given to Oduah in recent times? You need to pass through the ph airport arrival and departure lounges and you will know why does accolades are ungodly. Experience.the heat at MMIA and you will wonder why a sane person will support that woman.
Do you not think that the state of Apapa - oshodi express o's an impeachable offence on its own? Try mentioning it and you will be reminded that you are persecuting GEJ simply because he is a south south clown and not a yoruba man.
Until we start seeing governance without this myopic,obsolete tribal lens we use,we are a lost cause.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by omoredia: 8:53pm On Aug 21, 2014
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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by deflover(m): 8:54pm On Aug 21, 2014
ebola is a bio weapon so is the hiv virus.......US created it.....they have a patent to the virus.....why will someone have a patent if its not them that created it.....they have the cure of all this viruses they created.....

alot of people just talk.....i am sure they dont understand what a virus is.....and how it the DNA can be altered to make it a good virus or a bad virus angry angry angry angry
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by TOYNEX(f): 8:55pm On Aug 21, 2014
useless news.... they care for dem own sharperly abandon others...

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by nora544: 9:05pm On Aug 21, 2014
mbulela:

We have been repeating this argument bur I wonder why people do not get it or choose to not get it.
Besides,there is even no guarantee that the guy was cured by Zmapp. Ebola does not have 100% fatality,that means some people still recover from it. What if he was just one of them? What of the Nigerians that were discharged without taking Zmapp?

That is tru in Uganda they have now between 50 and 60% and they can handle it very good and they know that they need medicine very fast.

Did we know if the nigerian doctor get all the medicine he need.

When they show us in the TV about how they make ZMAP they had about 10 tabac plants and than they have to put something on every leave by hand than they have to wait 5 days and than it takes some days until they have ZMAP. Where the plants grow that is a very special room like an isolation station.
When you start with a new medicine for a test you make what you need for this test and not more.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 9:14pm On Aug 21, 2014
Debrothz: I still prefer our Nano Silver to Us poo zmapp, if u want to no more about Nano silver go to Google, our nano silver is not toxic, is has been used as a dietary supplement nd is still in use till date, congrat to d Dr shall

www.nairaland.com/1867468/nanosilver-not-cure-ebola-manufacturer#25659935
Shut up!!...

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Bibol(f): 9:33pm On Aug 21, 2014
I heard the man's speech... so touching. I'm happy for him

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 9:33pm On Aug 21, 2014
Well, zmapp hasn't been declared and confirmed to be a "cure" yet.. 6 subjects don't qualify for a valid sample population. Detailed human trials will take quite some time to complete before the drugs can be approved for commercial supply.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 9:35pm On Aug 21, 2014
deflover: ebola is a bio weapon so is the hiv virus.......US created it.....they have a patent to the virus.....why will someone have a patent if its not them that created it.....they have the cure of all this viruses they created.....

alot of people just talk.....i am sure they dont understand what a virus is.....and how it the DNA can be altered to make it a good virus or a bad virus angry angry angry angry
Drop a link of the patent application,or shut the hell up.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 9:36pm On Aug 21, 2014
bayulala: Happy to hear that the Guy made it.
But on a second thought,why did America refused us the Zmapp drug to atleast treat Dr.Adadevoh?
Sad, but don't forget some of our other health workers have survived the scourge. A Nigerian doctor got one of the three doses in Liberia. He's responding to treatment.

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