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Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 6:16pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
So many threads about synthetic engine oil, next to none about synthetic ATF. Is anyone in the house using synthetic ATF? Did you use dyno ATF then switched? Or have you always used synthetic ATF? Please share your experiences and recommendations. You might just succeed in saving a (car's) life or even extending it. Who knows? |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by uboma(m): 7:07pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
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Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 12:31am On Aug 24, 2014 |
We have been advertising our synthetic transmission fluid since 2012 and have been advising a lot of Nairalanders on the oil to use. Our pureguard is a Dexron 6 global synthetic transmission fluid. Ideal for almost all cars except CVT. We also sell Pureguard multi Vehicle CVT fluid. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 6:54pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
To set the discussion rolling let me share my personal story and end it with a question: I used a dyno ATF in a transmission i replaced and the next day, I drove the vehicle like i stole it from Benin to Abuja in 4 hours, the next day when I hooked up the OBD reader, it told me that the ATF has deteriorated and should be replaced. The distance I covered was not more than 500 kilometres. Midway through the journey the transmission started slipping between 3rd and 4th gear. When I arrived, it smelt burnt. Needless to say, I replaced it ASAP following the OBD reader's result I spoke off above. Would that have happened with a synthetic ATF? What do you think? If you want to drive an automatic to its limits, should you use dyno or synth in its transmission? What's your opinion? |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by Nobody: 9:45pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
IdaraCHODB:Had nothing to do with the ATF if the recommended one was used. (Nothing really special about synthetic.) The transmission was bad ab initio. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sultaan(m): 4:45pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
IdaraCHODB: To set the discussion rolling let me share my personal story and end it with a question: WHat type of fluid did you use in what model year car? I am guessing Acura MDX and for that you needed DW1 no other fluid. There are 4- 5 types of fluid in the market used in most brands, Toyota Type F, Honda DW1, Ford Mercon, GM Dextron VI, and CVT fluids. Fluids depends on who built the transmission.If the same transmission is in Jaguar,ford, Aston martin, then you use same fluid. If it is in jeep, mercedes, chrysler, use same fluid understanding that most manufacturers now only build the engines and other parts are outsourced is knowing what parts are compatible with other brands. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 12:09am On Aug 28, 2014 |
Costee: The complete OBD fault error was ATF low or deteriorated. Once I dropped the ATF and replaced with new fluid it went away. I also noticed that some of the lines were not properly tightened. Ever since then it has shifted properly and has been a faithful servant on several long distance trips. So i guess it had to do with either/both the leaks ( as I said it was fixed the day before and I didn't really take the time to check all the lines, you think a professional should not consider his job done without such verification) and the possibly heating beyond acceptable paramaters. Everything is back to normal, no slips, hence the above conclusion |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by Nobody: 1:21pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
IdaraCHODB: To set the discussion rolling let me share my personal story and end it with a question:My reading of this was that you test-drove the car after installing a new (used) transmission. The fluid in the transmission must have completely degraded. So what fluid did you now use? |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 5:42pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
Costee: Quite correct. On the day it was fixed, i did 50 miles on the expressway heading to Asaba then made a u-turn back to Benin. Everything was fine. The next day on my trip between Benin and Abuja I experienced symptoms earlier described. Oanda Dexron III was used during the fix, and I am currently using but i intend to switch to either Valvoline Dextron VI Fully Synthetic ATF or RedLine D6 Fully Synthetic ATF |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 8:27pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
sultaan: Fluid used: Oando Dexron III Transmission is GF4A-EL. Same transmission is used by Ford, Jaguar to the best of my knowledge. Since the manufacturer specified Dexron III and the standard has been phased out, I am moving to Dexron VI and I am considering trying Valvoline and/or RedLine. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by Nobody: 10:26pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
IdaraCHODB:Somehow you just never mentioned your car make/model. I presume it's Mazda from that transmission number. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 10:33pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
Costee:Spot on |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sultaan(m): 11:43pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
Ford usually require Mercon trans fluid |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 7:42pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
sultaan: Ford usually require Mercon trans fluidThat is true. Most likely Mercon V which is not OANDO Dexron 111 compatible |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 3:37pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Except that the manual specified Dexron III not Mercon and since Dexron III has been superseded by Dextron VI. I think I need to move there. Sadly, to the best of my knowledge and belief no company in Nigeria produces Dexron VI whether dyno or synth Which is why I need to look outside |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sultaan(m): 4:46pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
There is a lot of things outside the imagination of our people that we need to get ahead but those who proper in the midst of chaos will love to keep things the way they are good thing Nigeria airways died they would have killed a lot of people. Nigeria is intending on discouraging tech. The best car is the 1997-1999 Camry and best truck is the 1980s Mack this. Companies are obligated to make support parts8 year after the stop the product but we want the 15- 25 years later because it is more comfortable |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 9:44pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Contact us, we have Dexron 6 global synthetic |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by Denn(m): 2:12pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
sooperrescue: Contact us, we have Dexron 6 global synthetic in a bid to sell, please i would advise that you list the vehicles that can use your dextron 6. most viewers do not know the difference and a lot of mechanics top up ATF systems with ABRO. do not go the same lane. do a little bit of research and list the vehicles using your fluid. over50% of permanent transmission failure in nigeria occur because people add the wrong ATF (statistics from my experience). for the fact that it is synthetic doesnt make it a one-drug-cures-all |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 2:22pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Denn:I have a thread on Nairaland on Automatic fluids, getting the right one and I know what I am talking about. But for your information, let me attach the spec sheet and the vehicles it works with.
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Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 2:35pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
PURE GUARD PRODUCT DATA BULLETIN P.O. Box 78100, Baton Rouge, LA 70837-8100 225-261-6559 225-261-6580 (FAX) Rev. A 9/25/07 PURE GUARD GLOBAL AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID DESCRIPTION AND APPLICATIONS PURE GUARD Global ATF is a premium fluid designed for automatic transmissions of all North American, European, and Asia-Pacific-made vehicles. PURE GUARD Global ATF provides exceptional oxidation, wear, frictional stability, and anti-shudder properties required in today’s high performance transmissions. It also designed to deliver premium performance in older transmissions. Product Specifications: Specific Gravity @60°F (H2O=1) 0.86 - 0.88 Viscosity, @ 100°C, cSt, typ. 7.6 Brookfield Viscosity, cP, max 13,000 Flash Point, °F (°C) Min. 330 (165) Pour Point, °C (F) < -43 (-45.40) Color and Appearance Red liquid Packaging Specifications: Bottle 32 fluid ounces (946 ml), HDPE plastic bottle Product Claims: PURE GUARD Global ATF Meets or exceeds requirements of Ford’s Mercon V. Will perform satisfactory in Mercon SP, Dexron-VI and Toyota WS applications. Suitable for Chrysler vehicles where ATF+4 and ATF+3 are required. It can also be used where fluids meeting Ford ESP-M2C138CJ or Ford M2C166-H specifications are required. Exceeds Alison C4 specifications. Recommended for Mercedes transmissions. Not recommended for use where Ford Type F fluid is required. Detailed list of recommended specifications is below: Manufacturer Specification Acura ATF-Z1 (Except in CVTs) Allison C-4 Audi G-055-025-A2 BMW LA2634,LT71141; Texaco ETL-7045-E, ETL-8027B, Shell M1375.4 Chrysler ATF+4®, ATF+3®, ATF+2®, ATF+® Ford MERCON SP®, MERCON LV®, MERCON V®,MERCON®,XT-9QMM5 General Motors DEXRON VI®, DEXRON V, DEXRON III®, 9986195, Type A, Suffix A (TASA) Honda ATF-Z1 (except in CVTs) Hyundai SP-II, SP-III Idemitsu K17 PURE GUARD PRODUCT DATA BULLETIN P.O. Box 78100, Baton Rouge, LA 70837-8100 225-261-6559 225-261-6580 (FAX) Rev. A 9/25/07 Infinity Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K Isuzu Genuine Jaguar Shell M1375.4 Kia All Specifications Land Rover Texaco N402, Shell M1375.4 Lexus Type T, T-III, T-IV MAN 339F Mazda ATF M-V Mercedes Benz Sheet 236.x Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II, SP-III Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K Saab Transmax J Subaru All specifications Toyota Type T, T-III, T-IV Voith 55.6335.32 (G607) Volvo All specifications Volkswagen TL52162, G052 990 ZF TE-ML 03D, 04D, 14A, 14B, 16L, 17C Various (Aisin-Warner Transmissions) JWS-3309 Hazards: Contains Petroleum Distillates. Use with adequate ventilation. Keep away from heat, flame and all other sources of ignition. Avoid prolonged contact with skin. In case of contact, wash thoroughly with soap and water. Do not take internally. If swallowed, do not induce vomiting. Call physician or Poison Control Center immediately. Keep out of reach of children. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 5:09am On Sep 05, 2014 |
Some reasons to consider Synthetic ATF: 1 – Better Resistance to Oxidation 2 – Smoother Shifting 3 – Reduced Costs and Spent Time 4 – Resistance to Oxidative and Thermal Degradation 5 – Extended Transmission Life 6 – Rust Reduction Read more: http://www.doityourself.com/stry/benefits-of-using-synthetic-transmission-fluid#.VAk2XVfCfwI update, everything worked fine with Oando Dexron III until I tried to drive at speeds far in excess of 90km/hr ( don't ask me just how far in excess) and where, and within 1 hour of attaining such speeds two solenoids died in my transmission. So i replaced the transmission and everything worked fine, so I decided to do the same thing again, and I got the exact same result - the exact same two solenoids started misbehaving then gave out, the shocking thing is that when the second transmission started acting up, the transmission fluid had not done up to 500 kilometres So I said there must be something wrong - most likely thermal degradation I will replace the solenoids since I have 2 perfectly functional transmissions less 4 broken down solenoids, which is why I said - don't try to drive very fast with this kind of ATF, it will create the kind of heat that will so break it down that it will not do its job of protecting your transmission |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
sooperrescue: I'd like to know if its compatible with bmw e46 series. GM/ZHF transmission. If so. How much? Reply me here..I'll not pm you or text you privately |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 6:12pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
adeniyisavage: Hope this helps: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=444727 |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by lonelydora: 6:34am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Synthetic or Non-synthetic, na DW1 i know, and na him I go dey use till Honda say otherwise. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by IdaraCHODB(m): 9:47am On Jan 28, 2015 |
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Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 3:18am On Feb 03, 2015 |
Yes Pureguard works well with your BMW as stated in the spec sheet. BMW LA2634,LT71141; Texaco ETL-7045-E, ETL-8027B, Shell M1375.4. They are similar fluids with the Range Rover which we use daily in our workshop in Lagos. I am not permitted to give you the price here. |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sultaan(m): 3:53am On Feb 03, 2015 |
sooperrescue: Who complained about price of oil? Biko you get something you dey hide? |
Re: Synthetic ATF Not Just Synthetic Engine Oil by sooperrescue(m): 1:05pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
sultaan: Bros, the BMW e46 guy asked for the oil and he say he want the price online and he nor go text me or pm me. Na him need oil and na him dey give condition. |
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