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Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 10:21am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: This is what happens when you lead a miserable life, and you need the internet to affirm your self-worth. This dude is hella trifling. You are a cretinous person! Can you see what Fisk University has done to your thinking abilities now? So I said: "As two homosexuals cannot procreate, a child will always feel something is missing. Hence homosexual parenting is inferior to natural parenting." And you interpreted it as: "Good parenting is swayed by the parents s*xual deviancy"? And you are still denying you are not a person? 1 Like |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 10:30am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: OH SHYT! OH SHYT! So the problem is deeper than this? This person cannot even comprehend what we meant by identity? My belle o, My head o! FISK! FISK! FISK! Na so una dey destroy people's lives? person, were did one say homosexuals don't have "identities"? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 10:36am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite:*sigh* It's 4:35am, and I'm wasting my precious time hoping that you would act your age. Tell me the sort of identity you mean that heterosexuals are capable of having that homosexuals can't. You keep on thinking with the idea of the "norm" you have in your head. Children of homosexuals would not suffer any identity crises that adopted kids wouldn't. People find their identity wherever they choose to find it. I am yet to understand your noise making. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by cococandy(f): 10:39am On Oct 02, 2014 |
TV01: |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by cococandy(f): 10:44am On Oct 02, 2014 |
So TV are you prolife or prochoice.? Good morning and thank you too |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 10:47am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: You are just hiding your foolery. You jumped from "something" is missing to parenting skills being inferior. You are yet to tell us this mysterious "something". *sigh* You are mixing things up, thanks for quoting me. I am accusing you of jumping into a conclusion that doesn't make sense based on your premise. My quote was mocking the fact that you are dismissing good parenting having a factor in a child's upbringing and totally determining inferior parenting by sexual orientation. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 10:47am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! You are now looking for a way to run? You want to jump out of the window of the slaughter abattoir? TELL US how you ended up with your Fisk interpretation and how you came to the conclusion anyone said homosexuals don't have an identity. You have this level of comprehension and Fisk gave you a degree and pushed you out as a "graduate"? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 10:51am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! So if I say a Toyota Camry has an inferior driving performance to a Range Rover, according to the teachings at Fisk university, that means I said cars are not good if made by Toyota? Can you see how dumb you are? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 10:52am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: What are you going on about?? What is all this hog-wash? Do you have a stone for a brain? LMAO! You must be very verbose and redundant in arguments if you feel a need to talk about something(identity) that plays no part in your argument. This roundabout is becoming a lil irritating, you could state your point you know. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 10:55am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! You think it is SAGAMITE you can deviate from your lack of comprehension before moronically jumping on the thread with your Fisk education thinking "Yes, I am making sense". Me? SAGAMITE? person, did you comprehend before moronically making your daft, disjointed and unstructured statements? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 10:57am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: I never accused you of saying Toyota cars can't be good. I'm accusing you of not having a logical proof that Toyota's (the maker) process of making vehicles is inferior to that of Land Rover. Let me try to break this down to a lower level. Let's start from the beginning. *sigh* (This dude is ridiculous) How did you determine that homosexual parenting is inferior to heterosexual parenting? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:04am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: Are you always this pathetic? Or today is just a bad day? Calm down, I'm not going to beat you. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 11:05am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! Where in my statement did you see me make a statement about homosexual parent's process of child-rearing? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 11:06am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! Tell us where anyone said homosexuals don't have identities. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:09am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: So TV are you prolife or prochoice.? I'm pro-life. Take rape - two wrongs do no tmake a right, up to 80% or preganacies concieved in rape are kept. Not that I would force anyone raped to keep the pregnancy, that doen not ever make abortion a morally good or neutral choice. The statistical percentage of abortions for rape is <1%. Take the risk of death - we keep both alive until we have to induce labour or the mother will die. Unfortunately the baby may not survive delivery. But we don't kill the baby. The termination of life is never the answer to the dilemna of death. Again such abortions are <1% Take deformity - life is a precious gift from God. Fact is we are all "born deformed" - abi you no see our ways on NL ? - the key is to avoid behaviours or pairingd that may give rise to deformity and treat with humanity and dignity those that suffer from it. It's a reverse argument for euthanasia - do we kill the aged as they start to become deformed. Again such abortions are miniscule There are no moral or humane arguemnts for abortion. The vast majority of abortions are predicated on selfish lifestyle reasons. And in most, the pregnancy itself should have been avoided - Pro-choice for life - pun intended. TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 11:11am On Oct 02, 2014 |
The moronic Fisk person has realised I have exposed her lack of comprehension folly and now wants to deviate the argument by asking questions. When you fail your SATs and end up at Fisk out of all the universities in the USA, of course your brain will stall and not develop. Simple comprehension of arguments na challenge, but twerking is eeeeasy! 1 Like |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by cococandy(f): 11:12am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Ok. Glad you're staunch in your position. At least you're clear about that. One more thing would that still be your stand if it happened to your wife or daughter? TV01: |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:13am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: Parenting nigga, parenting! |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Sagamite(m): 11:14am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are a cretinous person! If you want it in your language: Where in my statement did you see me make a statement about homosexual parent's process of parenting? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:16am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: As for homosex - 2 or more parents of the same sex can never substitute for 1 of each. The sublte differences and input from both parents is key to ensuring a well-rounded individual. The physiological and psycholigical changes both parents undergo are different, as are the skills and contriburtions of each. Look closely, you'll find studies that tell you same-sex parenting is as good (or even better) than mixed sex parenting - it's junk science. We don't have the requisite sample sizes or benefit of historicity of SSM to conduct a comprehensive study. But we don't really need it as stated above. A same sex couple cannot deliver what a miced sex couple can - ATBE. And I say this knowing that a mixed couple does not gaurantee success and that there will be some cases of ss couples offspring doing well. Just like in single parent homes. TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:18am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: The moronic Fisk person has realised I have exposed her lack of comprehension folly and now wants to deviate the argument by asking questions. What did you expose and where did you expose it?? You are clamoring for audience approval, that is not needed. I am just here mocking your 'jumping' skills. From "something" is missing to homosexual parenting is inferior Nigga, how many chances am I going to give you to explain yourself?? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by cococandy(f): 11:19am On Oct 02, 2014 |
An opinion I share too. Problem is,is there enough proof of that to make a law that bans homosex parents from adopting kids? The last paragraph being the winning line they will have over every argument against them TV01: |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:22am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: They are being sensible in applying the laws of human rights.What's the sense in banning iincest and not over 40 gestation? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:23am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: Ok. Glad you're staunch in your position. My position remains the same - although I appreciate it wouldn't be solely my call. And the "right to choose" is not pursued by it's advocates on a selective basis. So there is really no middle ground - however hard you try to find it. Did you find inconsistencies in my position? TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:26am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Sagamite: Where did I mention 'parenting process'? Parenting is a process in itself, so I would not say that. You are claiming I misinterpreted you, do tell me what your initial post intended to say. Make this snappy, get on with it already. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by cococandy(f): 11:28am On Oct 02, 2014 |
TV01:Never mind if it's your call or not. Just wanted to know your position. No. No inconsistencies per your words. I will abort if I'm rapped,if the pregnency could take my life or both our lives or if the baby will be born severely deformed. So I'm prochoice. I think that's consistent. But if I told a young girl that having an abortion just because is wrong,she might think I'm prolife. Hence giving the impression of inconsistency. I find people who say they are prolife but will heed medical advice to save a mother's life by abortion as inconsistent. They will claim prolife but can't accept their wives with a baby she concieved from being rap'ed. In order words,the right to life shouldn't be pursued by it's advocates selectively. So when next someone is 'prolifing' alongside you,try find out their true position in cases like that. That message may do them good. You'd be surprised at how many prolifers are actually prochoice. |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:32am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: An opinion I share too. It's not a winning arguement. In which area of human wellbeing do we take the worst outcome and set it as the standard? Do we say that because some kids from seemingly good homes turn out bad and some from single parent homes turn out good that we should therefore normalise and champion single parent homes? Some kids that go to the worse schols or grow up in the worse areas - Ben Carson MD is often touted here - should parents move to ghettos and send their kids to inner city sink schools to prove a point? It's not a winning argument. Especially in light of the fact I noted earlierabout the wellbweing of a child being directly related to the knowledge of their ancestry, culture and biological heritage. Same sex homes cannot provide this and the child will eventually come to realise that a large part of their identity is missing. SSC often delete any reference ot the source of the "missing sex" genetic material. They'll often use an egg form one source and a surrogate from another. TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:39am On Oct 02, 2014 |
cococandy: No, I get you. In truth, there are probably a number who would act differently when faced with the actual choice. It's not easy and there is a lot of cultural and social pressure. Not to mention the political and media influence that is driven by differnt lobbies and interest groups. That's why it's good to start from apoint of truth and make sure everything accords with that. There are times I would have been faced with these questions when I wouldn't have known my left from my right. I genuinely appreciate your willingness to grasp these issues and work through them - at your own pace - and hold on to the integrity of where you are. I've heard medics give testimonies of how they had abortions due to deformities. All their training and the voices of their colleagues must have been overwhelming. We were all in tears. God is merciful. I pray it never comes upon us. TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 11:42am On Oct 02, 2014 |
TV01: Again, how is this "missing identity" different from the experience an adopted child might have in a heterosexual home?? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 11:53am On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender:The case of an adopted child is not by design. We recognise it as remedial, unfortunate and to be avoided at all costs. We don't legislate for it as "good and proper". Plus, a heterosexual couple will graft the child into their lineage. The feeling of affection, love and embrace will not be any different and the child will identify with that. TV |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
TV01: Adoption should be avoided at all costs?? Is that what you meant to say?? Jesus! I'm pretty sure a homosexual couple could do the same for their adopted child. What makes the "affection, love or embrace" different? Homosexuals are regular people, you know that right? |
Re: Sex Between Brothers And Sisters Should Be LEGAL, Says German Government’s Ethic by TV01(m): 12:21pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
BananaBender:Yes, the things that lead to adoption should be avoided at al costs. There will be instances - unavoidably in some cases - and then adoption comes into view. Ideally, children should be placed with relatives, failing that a solid family as close to their heritage as possible. And so on down a hierarchy of preference. At the leaset, they should be placed within a solid family setting. Or what are you finding confusing BananaBender:For a start, optimally a child needs a parent of each sex. The input from each is different, the psychological and physiological changes each one undergoes in conception, preparation on arrival and through the life of the child differ. The need for opposite sex parents is not just at inception. It's the way it was designed and the way it works best. Simples. BananaBender:Regular people who choose to use their reproductive capacity in an irregular fashion - you know that right? Blow the horn - sorry about that ! - for homosex all you please, but please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that two people of the same sex produce the same outcomes as two of the opposite sex. Trying to justify the abnormal using the sub-optimal. TV |
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