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Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by mekaboy(m): 9:48pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
The whole Nigeria fought one tribe and killed millions of igbos in the war. But today we can see that the remains of the igbos have grown to become very industrous and a force to contend with. I am wondering if the whole Nigeria rose to fight the hausa or fulanis or yoruba's, would they have been able to survive and become great from what was left of them. what is it that made the igbos to rise again after the destruction ? 5 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by SOUNDKING: 10:43pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
D secrete of their survival could be traced 2 their origin. 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by ibedun: 11:03pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Bullshit, do it at home first. Yorubas gave the Igbos too much leeway and opportunities- that's what led to the resurgence. 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by osile2012: 11:41pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
SOUNDKING: D secrete of their survival could be traced 2 their origin.WHICH IS? |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by moneybag100: 11:48pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Op you are high on weed...if Japan can survive little boy atomic bomb and Israel survives hilter holocaust, why wouldn't any tribe survives common over hyped biafra. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by IGBOSON1: 12:21am On Oct 01, 2014 |
moneybag100: Op you are high on weed...if Japan can survive little boy atomic bomb and Israel survives hilter holocaust, why wouldn't any tribe survives common over hyped biafra. ^^^Quick question: If Biafra was 'over-hyped' as you say, why did the federal gov't of the day have to resort to starvation as a weapon to try and defeat them? Why couldn't they just use conventional warfare to defeat Biafra in a matter of weeks? Cheers! 10 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by moneybag100: 12:41am On Oct 01, 2014 |
IGBOSON1:If you want to start a war...you should have food that will sustain the war duration stocked up....war is mathematics, you don't expect fg to be feeding it enemy...not possible...its the person (ojukwu) who started the war in first place without thinking how it will end should be blame. 10 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by IGBOSON1: 1:02am On Oct 01, 2014 |
moneybag100: ^^^You've not answered my question, rather you've gone off on a tangent ranting about war being mathematics and such piffle! You do realize there are rules of engagement in war don't you?......And that it's a war crime to use starvation as an instrument of war because it targets and affects non-combatants? You talk of Ojukwu/Biafra starting the war.....who told you this? You do realize that Ojukwu only declared secession (not war) when it became apparent that the Nigerian state could not guarantee the safety of lives and property of Easterners in Nigeria; despite the wickedness being visited on Easterners in the North of your beloved 'one Nigeria', you know Ojukwu was still amenable to making this country work, hence the meeting at Aburi Ghana in which the Aburi Accord was signed!? Go ask what those teleguiding Gowon did to their own 'Nigerian copy' of said agreement when Gowon came back home from Ghana and presented it to them! Biafra didn't expect Nigeria to feed them; and they also didn't expect that their markets and farmlands would be strafed by foreign arab mercenaries all in a bid to starve them into submission! The fact that you don't see a problem with the Nigerian criminal tactics at the time because the victims were the very people you despise so much says a lot about this 'one Nigeria' that you obviously want sustained! PS- Don't forget to answer my initial question! 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by SLIDEwaxie(m): 4:35am On Oct 01, 2014 |
IGBOSON1:dude, any strategy is used in war! So, stop crying over starvation like it's new to do sabotage foods meant for ur enemies during war. Second, have u ever heard of a race totally wiped off during war? At least, not in this modern time where everyone is scattered everywhere! And lastly, u didn't really 'survive' the war, u surrendered because u knw they will finish u and Ojukwu had already found his own route! Maybe if u hadn't surrendered, u wld av been wiped off the map sef! And talking abt the secession, Ojukwu fired the first shot! Check ur history! 10 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by IGBOSON1: 9:13am On Oct 01, 2014 |
SLIDEwaxie: dude, any strategy is used in war! So, stop crying over starvation like it's new to do sabotage foods meant for ur enemies during war. ^^^Just listen to yourself: 'ANY strategy is used in war'! If this is accepted as the norm, why then do we have people tagged as 'war criminals'?.....Why do we have 'rules of engagement'?......Why do we have 'The Geneva Convention'? You see how you're diminishing your humanity for the sake of justifying wickedness......you see how hatred and an emptiness where your heart should be has turned you into a truly wicked soul!? You and the bloodthirsty bokos truly are kindred spirits! You say "....stop crying over starvation like it's new to do sabotage foods meant for ur enemies during war". Well i don't know about the 'crying' part, but i'd concede you're right that it's not new to sabotage food supplies meant for your enemies during war; but you'd find that said 'enemies' is limited to enemy combatants and doesn't extend to their entire civilian population including women and children! Also, going along with you're argument, we could equally say that ra/pe and beheading of women and children are evil deeds that have been committed in war in the past and hence there's nothing wrong with deploying them today to defeat your 'enemy'! And lastly, u didn't really 'survive' the war, u surrendered because u knw they will finish u and Ojukwu had already found his own route! The parts of your quoted post in bold; isn't this an indictment on the federal side you're holding brief for? You see how you use your own mouth to condemn yourself!? Could you tell me how and when Ojukwu fired the first shot as you say? We can all now see why some of us think this country is just not worth sustaining! Why am i being asked to live in the same country with wickedness as personified by the this guy i'm quoting?.....Someone who justifies evil just because the victims are the Igbos he hates with a passion? Live with them.....no way; ok, let them leave.....still, no way! 9 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by olapluto(m): 9:30am On Oct 01, 2014 |
Silly question. A sensible tribe will find means of having support from other tribes to help its course. Biafra from day 1 was an ego ride by Ojukwu. Unfortunately most young Igbos who were not even born around that time are clamouring for it. You want to form a country, but you try to force people into it. As God will have it, the same Ojukwu contested to be president of Nigeria before his death. The election results and votes from Igbos will tell you the full story. 4 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by 9jii(m): 9:39am On Oct 01, 2014 |
Hmmm these people again Always licking their wounds |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by mekaboy(m): 9:57am On Oct 01, 2014 |
The main issue here is how the remains of the igbos became so industrous. These few became more industrous than some other tribes that watched the war. So after the war the igbos picked up what was left and still went ahead of many other tribes in Nigeria. That is the miracle i need an explanation to. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by mekaboy(m): 10:01am On Oct 01, 2014 |
How did this remaining end up owning more than 60% of properties in Lagos and 70% properties in Abuja. 2 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by olapluto(m): 10:07am On Oct 01, 2014 |
mekaboy: The main issue here is how the remains of the igbos became so industrous. These few became more industrous than some other tribes that watched the war. So after the war the igbos picked up what was left and still went ahead of many other tribes in Nigeria. That is the miracle i need an explanation to.Putting aside the criminality, which is legitimate to some Igbos as long as it brings money, you should be asking yourself if such progress was made within Iboland. After the war, the very receptive tribes in Nigeria allowed the Igbos in (overlooking the fact that Igbos would have killed them if they had the upper hand in war). It is this generous reception that allowed the few legit business people to thrive. So instead of trying to pleasurize yourself in some fantasy, I advice you to reason deeply (though it may be hard for someone clouded with ethnocentrism) 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by kettykin: 11:15am On Oct 01, 2014 |
ibedun: Bullshit, do it at home first. Please sir, how did yorubas give igbos much leeway and opportunities , a lot ofcus are new in the forum and politics and don not understand some of these things 6 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Nobody: 11:42am On Oct 01, 2014 |
The foolery of a fool is dubbed as wisedom( in this case " bravery") by other fools...gingadhi mahrit |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Nobody: 11:45am On Oct 01, 2014 |
kettykin:there was no case of abandoned property in yoruba land unlike what occured in ijaw land. The yorubas help the ibos that left for biafra to keep their houses intact and even collect rent on their behalf which they delivered to them on their return. Since independence, has there been any news of yorubas being hostile to the ibos residing in their region? If there is, compare it to what the hausas do and also the ibos in their respective regions. 1 Like |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by edogirl2: 12:20pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
The answer to your question is yes, because like Biafra, there would have been sufficient people (millions) left to recreate and bounce back. The Igbo bounce back has been impressive, but it is not unique. In my view, Rwanda's bounce-back following their more recent civil war experience has been remarkable, and shows that humans (in most cases) are very resilient, and have the God-given ability to bounce back following very serious adversity. Yorubas are not intellectually or physically lazy. They will have bounced back. 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Nobody: 12:26pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
If there is no abandoned property in yorubaland why did it took Ojukwu years to reclaim his dads properties in Lagos? If Ojukwu could finance such a lengthy and costly judicial journey to get justice, what happened to those who couldnt afford the cost of litigation. Abandoned property occured everywhere just that the Ikwerre own was so painful considering they are kiths and kins of theose that lost everything in the war. Yorubas were gifted the whole corporation under indiginization policy of suicidal Awolowo, today where are the comapnies, all the monenies Igbos deposited in bank were stolen by criminal a suicidal Awolowo today who are running the economy. Nigeria was in trance when Biafra was at war, when Biafrans started emerging again Nigeria started seeing Nollywood, CAF Champion league, Under 17 WC led by Nduka Ugbade, Under 17 WC led by Kanu Nwankwo, Olympics led by Kanu and Chioma Ajunwa, Innoson gave us the first indiginous car assembly plant, Kelechi Ihenacho is still fresh, Emmanuel Ifeajuna won the first Commonwealth medal for Nigeria, Obinna Metu, Uchenna Emedolu, Mary Onyali, Dick Tiger, Hogan Bassey, Ngozi Adichie, pls tell me whom Yoruba and hausa people produced since the war ended despite sitting in the corridors of power for 50years, list post civilwar Yoruba icon, list post civil war hausa icon, and list post civil war igbo icons all of international repute and tell me those whose names ring more bell? If after the civil war Yorubas and hausas are enjoying affirmative action in selection of FG entrance score, where is their sucesses and sophistications? Dont you know that going by what igbos suffered in civil war they deserve affirmative action but today those that didnt witness any human or natural disasters are being given unfair advantage to catch up with those with handicapp. Go to all the major and international mks in Lagos and see how Yorubas are messing themselves up while the igbos control the system after coming out from wae. Its on record that out of the 5 states that control the 90% monetary transactions in Nigeria 2 are core Igbo states of Anambra and Abia while Rivers, Lagos and Kano share the rest. The states with highest concentration of commercial banks have 2 SE states at the top 5 while Lagos and Abuja control the rest. The highest concentration of indeginous companies in Nigeria have Aba as the headquaters while Anambra follow in hot pursuit. WAEC, NECO, NYSC, JAMB are releasing their data every year, we all know who the lead the pack and who come distance follow up pls what the did Yorubas achieve while Igboland was being bomb to shred, what did Yorubas achieved when Igbos are setting up their 2*2 shops in all the corners of the country after the way while they sit ontop of the major corporations. Out of the 20 commercial banks in Nigeria, Igbos can boast of strong and reliable half of them as the core investors while leaving the rest to others to control after 40 of hate induced killing and genocide coupled with systematic conspiracies to make them economic and political slaves. Where is the sophistication of the Yorubas is the question begging for answer? TribalEAST: there was no case of abandoned property in yoruba land unlike what occured in ijaw land. The yorubas help the ibos that left for biafra to keep their houses intact and even collect rent on their behalf which they delivered to them on their return. Since independence, has there been any news of yorubas being hostile to the ibos residing in their region? If there is, compare it to what the hausas do and also the ibos in their respective regions. 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Noneroone(m): 12:56pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
Chuksphil2go: If there is no abandoned property in yorubaland why did it took Ojukwu years to reclaim his dads properties in Lagos?Dem don run. 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by SLIDEwaxie(m): 1:29pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
Chuksphil2go: If there is no abandoned property in yorubaland why did it took Ojukwu years to reclaim his dads properties in Lagos?dude, cry me a river. U talk too much and made no point! So, in the history of Nigeria, no yoruba emerged as the top of the class in education, sports or any other related occurrence. The issue of WAEC is a very funny aspect because after exam malpractices in ur bush where WAEC invigilators can't even reach, Yorubas still emerged leader in JAMB scores! The reason is not far fetched! And for ur mind, all the houses wey dey biafra na him dem raze to the ground abi? So, u jes started building everything abi? Yet, ur 2x2 shops were scattered around lagos! Why worrying urself? This chest-beating attitude is a very funny onw to me. Ogun state still holds the record for the largest numbers of industries. The word 'indigenous' is because u're pointing to fake-producing shops all around AbA and onitcha abi? You perpetrate nuttin but frauds in those areas. The pix of onitcha is nutting to write home abt with heaps of refuse all around the city and u're talking of sophistication! Which land in this whole nigeria cld be said to be sophisticated? Why talking with ur anus? Keep beating ur chest, ok? I knw d trait! The same reason ojukwu flee in a woman'a wrapper! 3 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Damolar45(m): 1:40pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
We are one.Igbo Hausa Yoruba;We are Nigeria.Why do weargue on what's happened already.Why won't we just let sleeping dogs lie?These dumb arguments will only strenghten disunity,and that is the last thing we need as a nation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Lordlexyy: 1:49pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
Was the civil war really necessary? The same people you said were after your lives are the same people you live and thrive successfully among. Success is relative. For every successful Igbo man there are thousands of Igbos languishing in poverty, in jail for criminal deed, in drug trafficking, in prostitution, in ritual murder, in kidnapping, in robbery and what are few. Let's stop this egocentric attitude that make us feel superior to others. I doubt if there are any tribes who don't have successful and failed people. Beside, what Igbos make up in trade, other tribes make up in education. Also, i have not come across any tribe going cap in hand to the Igbos for ration. I personally observe something that seems strange to me. The last time i was in Kaduna, i notice that after command secondary school along Peugeot junction, most of the beggars there apart from the Hausas, the rest are Igbos. Anyone who lived around there can confirm. I didn't say this to dispise any tribe, but i said this to say that, no tribe is perfect, we are working toward perfection. 1 Like |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by VoteOutPDPJona: 1:59pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
mekaboy: How did this remaining end up owning more than 60% of properties in Lagos and 70% properties in Abuja.Are you sure? How did you end up with that statistics? |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by VoteOutPDPJona: 2:01pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
TribalEAST: there was no case of abandoned property in yoruba land unlike what occured in ijaw land. The yorubas help the ibos that left for biafra to keep their houses intact and even collect rent on their behalf which they delivered to them on their return. Since independence, has there been any news of yorubas being hostile to the ibos residing in their region? If there is, compare it to what the hausas do and also the ibos in their respective regions. Can you write more on the bolded part. I'm an earnest seeker of knowledge. |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by VoteOutPDPJona: 2:08pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
Why raise up the ghost of Biafra? Let bygones be bygone. We have a country to salvage from poor leadership and her name is Nigeria. |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by cirmuell(m): 2:09pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
You guys should keep dragging your tribe in the mud. You lots are the ones that keep attracting hatred to yourselves. By the way Op, your question is a very silly one and probably coming from a teenager, but then even the supposed older & "wiser" ones of your Kinsmen have joined in your foolishness. Other tribes wouldn't have just survived, they would have faired better that you are now. |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Nobody: 2:20pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
cirmuell: You guys should keep dragging your tribe in the mud. You lots are the ones that keep attracting hatred to yourselves. By the way Op, your question is a very silly one and probably coming from a teenager, but then even the supposed older & "wiser" ones of your Kinsmen have joined in your foolishness. Other tribes wouldn't just survived, they would have faired better that you are now. 1 Like |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by cirmuell(m): 2:27pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
chimkaire:no offense Sis. Just had to |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by Malawian(m): 2:28pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
edogirl2: hold on.... where will they bounce back to ? should i post pictures of ibadam or ilesha ? should i post articles where father kills son over a plate of rice and chicken laps? how many imbreds will we be contending with today? 6 Likes |
Re: Would Any Other Tribe in Nigeria Have Survived BIAFRA? by BlackTechnology: 2:36pm On Oct 01, 2014 |
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