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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by ibnhasan: 1:47pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: Apparently you are the one who needs a brain here since you think a simple head scarf is a symbol of violence. and that the actions of a few errant Muslims determine the character of about 1.4 billion others. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 1:50pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
ibnhasan:No,it is beyond just scarf as there is some fanatical idea attached to it. Stop playing down on the implications of those girls not wearing it to schools. 1.4 billion people who are possibly brainwashed! Give me a break because 90% of those 1.4 billion people are living in Islamic countries. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nelson2014(m): 1:53pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
nice move 4rm lagos state govt..sme even use d hijab 4 examinatn malpractice 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by abbey621(m): 2:00pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: You my friend are as ignorant as they come! Just because you don't like the idealogies of a religion doesn't give you the right to be offensive. It's all part of your lack of exposure, you sit in your little corner and believe you've seen the world, I suggest you educate yourself, all religion has some form of violence, it just depends on interpretations. The cowards such as ISIS and Al Queda manipulate the verses to suit their needs, such as the way the Roman Catholic Church did back in the days of the Crusades or Hitler during the Holocaust. While I agree that Hijab should not be allowed in public schools and that all forms of religion should be banned from government institutions, I see nothing wrong with people demonstrating their faith in a peaceful, acceptable way! 4 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:01pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
MissMeiya:No, I am not. I am right about that if I have seen one and people are saying it that is your problem. Yet you couldn't provide evidence to support your view and you called me a slowpoke, you p r i c k! Give me what I asked for than beating about the bush to provoke insults. You twerp! |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by ibnhasan: 2:05pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: Well it is unfortunate that happened, and if that was the reason cited for banning the Hijab, we would understand. But clearly that was no where near the list of the concerns so, sorry about that. There is really nothing archaic about Muslim Abayas or clothing, if you are in doubt ask the Oil Sheikhs of Middle East. Actually your much vaunted developed countries would not have been where they are today if not for the early Muslims of Andalus. Ever heard of that? Educate yourself, buddy and stop listening to media trash. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:08pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
abbey621:You have waffled through unreasonable idea and expected me to believe it. That is appalling to say the least. Your claim is watered down to a false information making it look as though it is mere scarf when it is very significant to matured Muslim girls in the society. Go to some Muslim countries and see how a lady would be treated if not wearing that hijab. Please, burger off in your primitive man's reasoning! I am not going to accept that your blatant opinion based on lies. You are entitled to them though. Stop using wrong examples in your posts. I am not persecuting anybody for wearing hijab as you are making it to look like but the fact remains it is way to control those girls through religious indoctrination and can be very disturbing to the developed society than it being necessarily unavoidable to God instruction. Please...! Muslim didn't build the developed world. If that your claim is a fact. Why are Muslim countries not so developed? |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by delishpot: 2:14pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
omostar: E don happen. See me see jamb. Abeg bros, I dey come, e be like I no finish saylabus reach this ya question. Make I go back go study again. I go re register then re write this ya test. But bros o. We nor dey fight now. Na my observation I talk. If una want ptactice thr strict islam. Those gals suppose don marry at. 8 and them no suppose go school fa. On the other hand, since I am a live and let livve kinda person. Let Muslim women open special schools for their gals. Cos next we will hear now is that muslims in public schools do not want christians to pray on assembly ground. Or muslims demand lectures to stop so they can do their salat abi na prayers. Where will the demands stop? Last and final solution let all who choose to cover head do so.from deeperlife to our muslim sisters. To me the hijab mater is not a do or die matter as long as its only hijab no shaking. If deeper life want tie scarf too, no shaking any woman who wants to dress a certain way as stipulated by her religion should ride on. Na freedom of religion all follow join. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by macof(m): 2:16pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
click2cbn: Lol we all know it's their imam doing the appeal, the girls are just puppets probably don't even know what is going on 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:19pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija:You are right. It's quite unfortunate. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by abbey621(m): 2:23pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
Once again you speak without basis. Your initial post suggests that 90% of Muslims are brainwashed and yet you speak as if you have some kind of authority. My friend, I'm glad you said some muslim countries and not all muslim countries, that goes to show you that some countries have standards and are more tolerant of human rights. It's like you are not listening, calm down and read my words! Throughout the history of mankind, ever since the introduction of religion, we've had people or groups who took things too far, it happened with Christianity, today it's happening in Islam, but for you to suggest that a religion is invalid or that it's followers were brainwashed just because of a minority shows how ignorant you are. All I can do is advice you, if you want people to take you seriously in life, stop being biased! 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Xano(m): 2:26pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
BetaThings: You dont live in Abj, Kano, Kaduna. These are states with large number of people who practise Christianity. We know you and your muslim brothers. We've experienced it first hand from your kind. From increasing the volume of the speakers of their mosques on a sunday morning, to indirectly insulting Jesus. Don't think we don't know your kind. You bring up every scenerio, but leave the other part of it. When each scenerio you bring up, it gets answered but you continue, trying to breed hatred. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by ibnhasan: 2:26pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: The use of Hijab is by choice. I even know a few ladies who use at great personal cost despite antagonism from family and friends. Google Tawakkul Karman and hear what she has to say. She has a Nobel Its a lie!!! Muslim countries do not treat women without Hijabs with disrespect, if you have been to Turkey, Indonesia, or Dubai you will know this Of course the Muslims didn't directly build the developed world but they helped spark the renaissance which would have been delayed by two more centuries without their effort. Hopefully the import of that will not be lost on you. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 2:29pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
MissMeiya: This is just the beginning. Until we remove religion from public spheres, it will grow and explode. Anyone who feels obliged to wear hijab, go to muslim schools (govt owned or privately owned). Anyone who feels he should carry bible on his head 24hrs, go to a missionary school. But a school branded 'public' should be void of ANY traces of religion. Simple as ABC. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:33pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
NifemiOlu: You mean religious segregation? |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:34pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
abbey621:I said 1.4 billion Muslims you pointed to are brainwashed and that is correct! The fact that they don't even question the origin of the religion and the lies behind it is from God, a supernatural being somewhere unknown, proves my argument is correct. As to the 90% statement, I said that is possibly the number of those 1.4 billion Muslims in Islamic countries of the over-eulogized Muslim population, as though they are winning more converts from non-Muslim nations. Read to comprehend my posts. Extremists are in every religion and it is human but their is a magnitude to it. There is hardly a Muslim person who would condemn an ISLAMIC onslaught on non-Muslim in the open and in the secret when it is purported to be about Allah. I know Muslim people better than you in their hypocrisy. Please..., you aren't talking to uninformed person. I am not biased! Muslim always see others biased against them whereas they are the most biased and hypocritical human beings alive. Things you cannot do in Islamic countries are done in developed countries by Muslims. What a way to go in biased talk. Jeez! I can understand why Israel is not taking any chances from the Arab nations. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by abbey621(m): 2:36pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: Sir what religion do you practice or are you an Atheist? Your answer would detrmine the proper response to your ramblings above! |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 2:39pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
MissMeiya: Not exactly. Since we've chosen to drown in religion without trying to see another man's point of view, so be it. Moderate people will attend the normal public schools while religious people will attend their religious schools. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:40pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
abbey621:I don't believe lies like religion doctrines. You should know possibly by now that I don't. In your mind you think I am a Christian because I am against your religious ideology. That is always one of the Muslims problems, the very reason they fight with different religion groups around the world all to have domination. That is nonsense. From Asia to Africa Muslims are fighting with other religions. Jeez! What a sh*t I can not stand to watch! It is repugnant to say the least. 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:45pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
NifemiOlu: And who determines the standard for what is moderate and what is excessive? I suppose you consider hijabs excessive. Meaning you think all Muslims who obey their faith should attend a separate school. I.e. religious segregation. 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 2:52pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
ibnhasan:It is now by choice. Lol...! Why are you so much concerned about the ban after playing down on it as though Muslim girls are not taunted for not putting it on. There is a big doctrine behind hijab to show that a girl is a virgin. I know more about those shitty ideologies than you think. I am not going to Google on any hypocritical notion to make Muslims look exonerated why doing something else in the secret. They are look down upon when they aren't wearing hijab. In fact, women not wearing hijab are seen as those who possibly have lost their virginity or seen as p r o s t i t u t e s. Try it in Saudi Arabia, if you are a lady and see how people would react to you. You have not traveled far and wide in Muslim countries as I have. Islam is just about a thousand an five hundred years old and many of those developed nation have been known what is called civilization for over three thousand years. You should know according to the Bible story Romans were in world power during the Jesus Christ era. Please, take that you Islamic development sh*t idea to some primitive villagers in Nigeria not me. The important of your view is lost on you though. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by joseph1832(m): 2:55pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
omostar:And I did my youth service in Sokoto where all the days of the week are allocated to muslim prayer only. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 2:55pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
Copy & Paste: [Muslims are not happy: They’re not happy in Gaza They're not happy in Egypt They're not happy in Libya They're not happy in Morocco They're not happy in Iran They're not happy in Iraq They're not happy in Yemen They're not happy in Afghanistan They're not happy in Pakistan They're not happy in Syria They're not happy in Lebanon SO WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?? They're happy in Australia They're happy in England They're happy in France They're happy in Italy They're happy in Germany They're happy in Sweden They're happy in the USA & Canada They're happy in Norway & India They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy. Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem Hindus living with Christians = No Problem Christians living with Shintos = No Problem Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem Jews living with Atheists = No Problem Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem Christians living with Jews = No Problem Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem Muslims living with Hindus = Problem Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem Muslims living with Christians = Problem Muslims living with Jews = Problem Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem Muslims living with Shintos = Problem Muslims living with Atheists = Problem MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM.. ] 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 2:58pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
MissMeiya: Did I mention "those who want to carry bible on their heads" in the previous post? |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by josh830: 2:59pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
To justify such problem school should provide hijAb dat wil match the uniform, cause hijab is not only for muslem I could remembered holy mary mother of JESUS christ the sevior of all used to put on hijab 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by jojotemitopaz(m): 3:09pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
NifemiOlu:so muslims are not happy in Dubai, saudi Arabia, Qatar etc...arnt those islamic states?15 yrs earlier im sure the countries u mentioned as not BEING HAPPY were once very happy and peaceful until the west came in to interfare with their internal politics...first it was sadam, later the haunt of bin laden in afganistan, then gadafi in libyah, then the comstant oppression from isreal on palestine even though u fogot that palestinia accommodated them initially before the were bullied out of their land to create the state of isreal. 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 3:09pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
NifemiOlu: Do people actually do that? Or is that the most outlandish fictional equivalent you could think of? You also used the word "want". Perhaps you should come up with an actual religious requirement to use as a comparison. 1 Like |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by abbey621(m): 3:10pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
all4naija: I don't care about religion either, my dad is a Muslim, my mom a Christian and they have lived peacefully for many many years. The problem I have with you is that you lack the proper education to be considered an expert on religious matters. Don't let your hate for religious doctrines cloud your judgement or reasoning. I took proper time to reseearch the world major religions, even took many courses in religious studies during my undergraduate and graduate days, so I know what I'm talking about. Islam is very similar to the Old testaments in the Bible, mistake most people make is that they believe in the wordings rather than the message. For example: There's no compulsion in Islam, any Muslim who coerce or force another to join Islam has sinned, all true muslims believe this but the terrorists, the manipulators would quote Jihad statements meant for that particular time in history and use it to suit their modern desires. The point is you have no rights to associates all Muslims in the same category or that all of them are spinless and ignorant. This goes for anything in life, the actions of a few minority must not represent the majority, the actions of a few white men does not mean all white men endorsed slavery, the actions of a few black men such as Crips and Bloods doesn't mean all black men are thugs. I have no problem with Islam or Christianity, I do however have a big problem with the extremisim associated with each religion. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 3:30pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
abbey621: HATE! You just throw words around for all in the name of making points. Jeez! You are rebuffed by me for using that nonsensical word indeed! If you think I am not in a position to speak on religion matters because you think I am not religious means you are blind to the fact. I am in the best position to do that because I can't be biased against different religion groups when addressing some issues concerning their faith. This is about a particular religion and I speak my mind of their silly doctrine to control girls by lying to them. While you try to uphold the need to allow hijab in schools there is a clear line something significant has been attached to it which you are playing down on. If not why do they want it allowed in schools in the first case? Please... Islam in fact modify the old testament and add Hadith as a separate instruction guide. The old testament is as negligibly unimportant to a modern Christians as heresy in the past. You need to stop trying to use Christianity as your comparison in this argument. I would rather have Christian neighbors than a Muslims based on Muslim fanaticism. There is always a compulsion in Islam. This is were the bane of the hypocrisy lies. They would say something else in the open and do another in the secret. Muslim might not use force to convert people to become members of Islam in few cases but would hold back things which would have be favorable to them if they were to be non-Islamic and taunt them as they would do to enemies. Please, you aren't speaking to somebody who doesn't have much idea about that religion. The truth that Muslims are hypocrites is an evidence why you see them supporting those terror groups attacks on people in secret. Visiting Muslim countries forums online and see their views on the terror fights in Muslim countries and you would be appalled. Many see the wars as against Christians and Muslims. That alone give us an insight into how a typical Muslim first reason before coming to a conclusion. They are biased and hypocritical! |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 3:34pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
MissMeiya: There are Christians who bring church tracts to school and wear rosary to school and some pray in the class in some group during break. Have you seen them before? I hope so. |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by abdulkayus(m): 3:36pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
akinsadeez: Guy u can keep on skirting around the point bt u hav no point. So muslim students puting on hijab constitute to segregation according to ur ideology abi? Why did u advocate for banning of hijab in all government public buildings then since it constitute segregation? Guy u hav no point, just agree. Lady tym I remember, its nt force on non muslim, so wat are non muslims wahala over muslims issue? |
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by NifemiOlu(m): 3:38pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
jojotemitopaz: Mention the remaining 'etc And did you mention Bin Laden? Wow! More so, how wise am I if an outsider uses or used me to destroy my family? Note: Israel is NOT a christian nation. It's Jewish nation. You may try to use Google. #Peace |
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