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Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by plaetton: 3:43pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
jdilight:You are the one who has been hawking tithe as a spiritual success secrete by referring to Abraham's spiritual success secrete. 1 Like |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by jdilight(m): 3:54pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
plaetton: When superior show up peoples personality will be made known. I just checked your topics, I discover you stand against anything Christianity. It may not necessarily be a bad idea following you up on this issue. Your hatred/ envy against the church is of not profit because the church of God cannot be stopped. God did not tell us, attempt will not be made against her. No! what he told us was, we are more than conqueror in everything. This one is not an exception. You don't hate fraud, but the church of God. I have not heard anyone said he was force to giving his/her tithe. When I gave my first salary to the church of God. No one told me to do that. I did it of my will. So do you say I was defrauded of my first salary? People whom you see as lazy are the ones moving the economy while the suppose hard working people are taking our money out side the country to host wedding and parties. Illiteracy is relative, know one is learned in all field. The people you see as hawkers of stupidity are raising financial pillars all over the nation. Stick to your religion and leave others to theirs. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by plaetton: 4:18pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
jdilight:Well sir, I will definitely not come to your house nor your church to challenge your beliefs. But once your beliefs are hawked on the public domain such as this, your messages will be dissected analyzed, challenged, mocked and relegated to the dustbin of nairaland religiotards. 1 Like |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by PastorKun(m): 5:42pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
jdilight: And since when did Abraham become the standard for christians to follow I though we were meant to follow christ. Is there any injunction in your bible to follow abraham's one off tithe example? If then how did pastor's arrive at weekly/monthly tithes as Abraham known to tithe only once in his entire life. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by PastorKun(m): 5:48pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
jdilight: I would advice you refrain from referring people to this your pathetic thread. You would only end up exposing how shallow you are based on the poor scripture twisting skills you exhibited on that thread. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by jdilight(m): 6:40pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
PastorKun: Only people who know their onus refer people to their post. I don't think you have ever done that. Get something what making reference to and you will always refer people to it. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by jdilight(m): 6:43pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
PastorKun: I make reference to Abraham to show that tithe existed before the law. But since you have run out of idea to keep people thinking that tithe is evil, then keep your 10% to yourself and allow those who love God enough to spread his gospel with their 10% do so. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Image123(m): 7:37pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
striktlymi: You can't tithe to the detriment of your loved ones. A human being has to have financial discipline. Any poor man who has no financial discipline will continue to remain poor and in debts. It is financial health to be able to put aside(on a regular basis) a part of your income or profit or proceeds for saving at least, before spending on family, self and whatever else. If setting apart 10% of your income or profits is to your detriment, please find some financial discipline, or a better job. What happened to the 90%. Anyone who cannot cope with 90% would not cope even with 150%. FACT. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Image123(m): 7:54pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
hat striktlymi: The Bible NEVER discourages poor people giving. Instead, it discourages sinful people/sinners, and those that have an issue to settle. In fact, Jesus Christ commended the giving of a poor widow. Luk 21:2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. Luk 21:3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all: Luk 21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had. The commands on giving in the Old Testament hardly spare anybody. Instead, it considerably reduces the rates, that is all. It doesn't say not to give except you find it convenient. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Image123(m): 7:56pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
striktlymi: Good, now you're talking. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Zikkyy(m): 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
PastorKun: It depends. If you are paying the tithe commanded by God or tithe based on pastor's commandment. 1 Like |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by PastorKun(m): 8:56pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
jdilight: You remain a chronic pathological liar if you can't quote any post I said tithes is evil. And as I said earlier Abraham's one off tithe was based on the customs of his people and not God's commandment so stop using it to manipulate people into parting with 10% of their regular income. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Nobody: 9:00pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
you know that tithing is in the bible |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by trustman: 10:53pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
oiu123:You know too that animal sacrifices is also in the Bible. Do you still do animal sacrifices today? If so, how? 2 Likes |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by brocab: 1:17am On Oct 30, 2014 |
Why only 10% why not give more? Hebunn: 1 Like |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Nobody: 8:00am On Oct 30, 2014 |
For those interested in adopting a monthly personal budget that should help you pay your tithes conveniently, kindly see the last update to my post: https://www.nairaland.com/1971805/must-pay-tithe-it-right#27544536 I had to use that space because of the arguments going on. I will continue in the next post. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Nobody: 8:29am On Oct 30, 2014 |
It is a bit easier to define one's income stream as compared with defining one's expenditure. For the most part, a lot of folks derive income from one source. Either one's salary or a relatively small business. Though it is very advisable to diversify one's source of income but the reality is that a lot of us don't have the 'stomach' for it. In any case, whatever your expected income stream for the first month, kindly note them down. This, like I mentioned earlier may be your salary, the income you get from your private business, the income from your spouse etc. For the first month, your expected income should not include bonuses you are not sure of getting. This is a common mistake a lot of people make. You see some planning an event a big as their wedding with moneys they believe would come from expected bonuses. It is good to plan but basing your plans on your bonus is a recipe for disaster. Bonuses for the most part are relatively uncertain. After defining your expected sources of income, the next is to quantify those income stream. How much do you think would be a good estimate for the expected income? For salary earners, this is relatively easy. You know your net income for you and your wife (for those who are married and are in paid employment) at the end of the month. This should define your expected income for that month. For business men and women, defining your expected net income is a bit tricky. You would have to fall back on some historical data as it concerns your business. You check the flow of income for previous months and get a best estimate. For those who are good at book keeping and have ready data to check their sales for each month, this would come in handy. Please note that your net income as a businessman or woman is not your total profit. Your net income is actually your disposable profit. For many people, though they are into business, they make the mistake of assuming 'false profits'. You may think you are making profits but in the true sense, you are actually making losses. I will continue with that line of thought when I am free in the office. Continued in next post |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by Nobody: 8:33am On Oct 30, 2014 |
plaetton: Very sensible and thought provoking. |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by BossTtdiamonds(m): 9:35am On Oct 30, 2014 |
striktlymi: It is sensible and thought provokin' just cause it is in line with your assertion...innit..?? If he had written on "Why servin' God is a waste of time"....would you have also said his statement is Sensible and thought provokin'... You're found a common ground on the matters of God with an Atheist who does not believe a thin' written in the word of God?.. Makes me ponder..are you really a christain..?? |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by lastmessenger: 10:41am On Oct 30, 2014 |
PastorKun:I also want to ask if Abraham one time tithe was what made him rich and great? I thought Abraham was already a rich guy before he paid the tithe.so how can one say that Abraham was practicing a success principle when he paid tithe? 1 Like |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by brocab: 9:49am On Oct 31, 2014 |
Will you give your tithing to the poor? Would you feed your flock? Would you visit me in prison? Would you help me, I'm a stranger, I'm poor, I'm hungry, I'm in prison? Would you help me, birds have nest, foxes have holes, I have no place to rest my head. Will you help me? striktlymi: |
Re: If You Must Pay Tithe, Do It Right. by brocab: 10:05am On Oct 31, 2014 |
The truth will set you free. you know that tithing is in the bible |
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