zeemahn:


Ops attempt to prove made sense. Typical theist. Once they loose an argument from all angles, they resort to derogatory statements.
#I win

So he only 'attempted to prove'...but he failed to prove, because according to you "It is actually impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a supernatural being."

You're, in effect, saying the title of this thread is a lie.

#ConfusedAtheist

italo:


So he only 'attempted to prove'...but he failed to prove, because according to you "It is actually impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a supernatural being."

You're, in effect, saying the title of this thread is a lie.

#ConfusedAtheist

When one man is mad-delusion
When many people are mad- religion
#mad theist
#You wish there is god
#but there isn't

You can as well worship gravity

zeemahn:

When one man is mad-delusion
When many people are mad- religion
#mad theist
#You wish there is god
#but there isn't

You can as well worship gravity

You have no proof of what you said.

It is meaningless.

Try again.

italo:


You have no proof of what you said.

It is meaningless.

Try again.

Neither do you.
More meaningless
Keep trying

RaphaellaDD:


Of course, you'll want to know. Well i was diagnosed with astigmatism and myopia in 2010 but I didn't have the cash to get the treatment and glasses that I needed. I also didn't fancy the idea of wearing glasses. The condition was really bad cause I had acute eye aches, and my eyes were constantly sore and irritated. I had problems in school because of this. Anyways, I was born into a spiritual ,Christian family and I know who i am,so I sowed a seed on it in church and just put the issue behind me. I went back for an eye checkup in 2011 and the doctor told me that my eyes are , in short, brand new. I haven't had any issues with my eyes since then.

Now, I have no problem with science whatsoever, I think it's really interesting, but there are just some things that no scientist can explain. It just proves that there is definitely a higher power, God, at work.

Maybe yours can't be explained yet but read below to show you that there is no miracle or maybe as Colin Humphreys says, it's in the timing.
Was the mythical parting of the Red Sea triggered by
Moses' outstretched hand or an unusual chain of
perfectly natural causes? Or both? And does it matter? Russian researchers recently took a stab at explaining
one of the Bible's most famous miracles. Their version of
events describes how a strong, persistent wind and an
underlying reef may have made the feat possible. The research follows a long line of efforts by science
scholars to prove religious miracles from claims of
sighting the ruins of Noah's Ark to attributing the biblical
"trumpet blast" from Mt. Sinai as volcanic activity. Some
argue such explanations diminish the concept of miracles
while others say they reinforce their power. A Good Wind and Good Timing In the latest attempt to lend scientific credence to a
supernatural event, Naum Volzinger, a senior researcher
at St. Petersburg's Institute of Oceanography, and Alexei
Androsov, a colleague based in Hamburg, Germany,
analyzed conditions that could have made the parting of
the Red Sea possible. As the biblical story goes: "And Moses stretched out his
hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go
back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the
sea dry land, and the waters were divided." Volzinger and Androsov calculated that a wind blowing
at the speed of 67 miles per hour sustained overnight
could have exposed a reef that existed close below the
ocean surface. The Israelites could have then fled over
the passage before the wind died down and waters rose
again, blocking the way for pursuing Egyptian soldiers in their wheeled chariots. Volzinger explains that some 3,500 years ago, the reef
would have been closer to the water's surface so it
would have been exposed for just the right amount of
time. "It would take the Jews … four hours to cross the 7-
kilometer reef that runs from one coast to another,"
Volzinger told The Moscow Times. "Then, in half an hour,
the waters would come back." A miracle? Perhaps. Great timing? Certainly, argues Colin
Humphreys, a physicist at Cambridge University in
England and author of the book, The Miracles of Exodus. "I still say they're miracles," Humphreys said. "But I
think the miracle is in the timing." Humphreys has used similar calculations to explain the
parting of the Red Sea, although he places the event in a
slightly different location along the shore. Other scholars
have argued that the name Red Sea has been
mistranslated over the centuries from Hebrew and the
name yam suph, or "Sea of Reeds" actually refers to a marshy, inland lake, which would have been easier to
cross than a sea. Humphreys traveled to the head of the Gulf of Aqaba of
the Red Sea to settle the matter and found that reeds still grow there today due to the freshwater flow of
mountain springs. The so-called "Sea of Reeds," he
concluded, could therefore refer to the Red Sea. Charcoal Bush He then set out to explain another well-known miracle
— the burning bush — that the Bible reports "did not
burn up" as Moses heard God talking to him through it.
While hiking in Israel, Humphreys happened to step on a volcanic vent. "It nearly burned my shoe," he said. One of the most common bushes in the region is the
acacia bush, says Humphreys, a bramble that is known
for making good charcoal. If a vent happened to spew
hot gasses under an acacia bush, he argues, it could have
alighted and appeared to have burned without end. "The bush may have started burning just as Moses
walked near," he said. "It's all very possible, but again,
the miracle is in the timing." Efforts to explain the miraculous certainly aren't limited
to biblical references. In 1995 people in India began reporting accounts of
marble statues of the Hindu god, Ganesh, drinking milk.
The stock market and the federal government closed
down in India so that people could feed the statues.
Within days Hindu statues around the world were
consuming milk by the liter. Scientists later said the "miracle" could be explained by
the simple physics of surface tension, which made it
appear as if the milk were disappearing. Physics aside,
some argue miracles like these are in the eye of the
beholder. "Miracles are a great source of comfort," says Nicholas
Humphrey, a psychologist at the New School in New
York City and author of Leaps of Faith: Science, Miracles
and the Search for Supernatural Consolation. "Many
people are eager to have miracles revealed to them. That
means they may be more likely to be taken in by events that have natural explanations." Unlikely Events Statistics, alone, guarantee that seemingly miraculous
events happen on a regular basis, argues John Allen
Paulos, a mathematician and author at Temple University
in Philadelphia. "If a miracle is simply a very unlikely event, then
miracles occur every day," Paulos wrote in one of his
monthly ABCNEWS.com columns. "Just ask any lottery
winner or bridge player." The key may lie in how a miracle is defined. Robert John
Russell, founder of the Center for Theology and the
Natural Sciences in Berkeley, Calif., argues miracles are
less about an event, itself, than the powerful experience
of the person who witnesses it. "Some people take miracles literally — as miracles — and
that's fine," says Robert John Russell, founder of the
Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences in Berkeley,
Calif. "But I think a lot of people have come to interpret
miracles as natural events with extraordinary
significance." Witnessing a solar eclipse or the birth of a child, he
suggests, can be miraculous occasions, even though both
can be explained by science. However a miracle is
defined, polls show an overwhelming number of
Americans believe in them. A recent Fox News poll
found that 82 percent of those surveyed believe in miracles. Some miracles, of course, can't be explained by science,
such as the resurrection of Christ or how Hindu's Vishnu,
in the form of a dwarf, took three steps that
encompassed the entire Earth. These miracles, says Humphrey, are best simply left
alone. "These are important stories," he said. "In some ways it
cheapens them if you feel compelled to prove them."