Says negotiation is waste of time
•Lists four ways to stop insurgency
•Explains why the Sultan, himself, others have
not met over killings
By Sam Eyoboka
National President of the Christian Association of
Nigeria, CAN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, on Monday,
celebrated his birthday by giving out cheques of
N50,000 each to about 30 disabled individuals
from different parts of Delta State. In this
interview, he laments that for two years now,
Nigeria Inter-religious Council, NIREC, has not
seen the need to meet despite the growing
menace of insurgency in parts of the country.
When asked whether constant attacks on his
person will deter him from speaking his mind,
his answer was: “God forbid. It cannot!”
Excerpts…
What’s your birthday wish for Nigeria?
My birthday wish for Nigeria is that we will have
a nation where everyone is equal; not just by
national anthem, not just in words, but in deeds.
That Nigeria will be a nation where people are
not judged by tribe or by religion, but purely on
the quality of their character, their person. My
wish is to have a nation where anybody can go
from Sokoto to Calabar and be accepted as a
Nigerian. I don’t have to change my religion to
live in a certain part of the country.
To mark your birthday, you gave out cheques to
disabled people in Warri. What inspired it?
That is my life. The major thing that gives me
joy in life is to give joy to other people. When I
have opportunity to do that, I jump at it
because it does something to me. I feel fulfilled.
Yes, I’m a Christian, I’m spiritual, but I feel like a
human being when I touch other people. It
reminds me of my own humanity. It reminds me
that if not for God, I will not be who I am; I will
not be where I am today. You saw a woman
giving testimony and then she said she had
stopped doing business. Whatever stopped her
from business, obviously stopped her from a
livelihood. It just occurred to me there, ‘why
don’t you just help her?’ She is healed, she is
happy, but why not just take it a step further
and help her to have a livelihood? And you could
see her reaction.
That gives me fulfilment. December 26th is an
incredible day for me here in Warri. I did not fully
understand the word Boxing Day. I thought it
was a feast thing, but then I began to
understand that it is a day where many things
are packaged; it’s a day of boxing things to give
to people. So we do that here every December
26th. We give out cars, tricycles. That’s my joy.
I’m a pastor. How much do I have? What can I
do? Very little. But there are big businessmen,
big companies; if we all try to do a little;
everybody seems to be pushing it all to
government but government can’t do everything.
We can all do something. If I do a little
something, and somebody else does, and
everybody else does, you would be surprised
how many people we can take out of poverty,
how many people we can actually put on their
feet so they can stand for themselves and fend
for themselves. It will change this country.
The theme of the Jubilee: Talitha Cumi Arise
2015, does it have anything to do with next year
elections? What’s the purpose of the theme?
I have a chair in my bedroom where I kneel to
pray, but sometimes I sit if I’m praying for long,
it’s like a rocking chair. I was sitting there
meditating some five months ago. I can’t explain
whether it was a trance, but I saw something
like a screen, and written on it were the words:
‘TALITHA CUMI’. I happen to know that phrase
because I’ve preached from it for years and I
know that it means, `Damsel arise’. Underneath
it I saw ‘ARISE 2015’. I know we are in 2014,
why 2015? And the impression from God came
to me that this year is preparatory towards
2015. Many things have been predicted about
2015, but the Lord impressed on me that many
things that were dead will come alive. Hopeless
situations, God will bring life into them. But also
that Nigeria will arise. This nation will not go
under. Nigeria will not be consumed. Nigeria will
survive. It will be tough, but God says we will
arise. So it’s very prophetic. It will definitely
affect 2015. Call it the election, call it the
aftermath of the election, call it whatever, but
we will survive 2015. When Nigeria survives
2015, Nigeria will survive anything.
In view of the growing insurgency in parts of the
country, why has NIREC not held any meeting to
address the challenge?
I am as puzzled as you are because the Sultan
and I are co-chairs of that organisation. We’ve
not had a meeting now for almost two years and
I’m puzzled because at least three times I have
been informed of a meeting. We were supposed
to meet in Gombe, only for the Secretary/
coordinator, Prof. Ishaq Oloyede, to call to tell
me it won’t hold, something happened, the
governor was going somewhere or something.
We fixed another date, he came up with
something again.
We fixed a third date; they came up with
something again why it could not hold. At a
point, they even said there was no money. But
early this year, I was told that there was some
money now, so I said let’s do it. I talked with
the two very important people involved. I
suggested some dates; they said those dates
were not good. So I’m still waiting for a date.
So it has nothing to do with me. I would love
that we sit and talk. And we should be able to
put these issues on the table and put timeline
and agree on how we want to solve some of the
problems facing Nigeria today. The traditional
rulers, the religious leaders and political leaders;
these three groups of people are very crucial to
solving the problems facing Nigeria today.
Recently we heard that there was a ceasefire,
later we were told that there was no ceasefire
whatsoever……
I think I’m the wrong person to ask this
because, first of all, I was not part of it. I don’t
know anything about any ceasefire. You people
should ask the relevant authorities to explain
what they meant by ceasefire because I have no
idea. What I know from what some very devout
Muslims have told me is that when a Jihad
starts, they don’t stop. The Jihad has to be
completed. They either die or they achieve their
goal. And the goal is to Islamize Nigeria. The
real war is a war between the ideology of Sharia
and the ideology of democracy. This is the war
that is going on, and it is a worldwide war.
In Nigeria, we are ostriches; we put our heads in
the sand. The western world is doing the same.
They think as long as they are hiding in the
sand, their problems will vanish. It’s not going
anywhere. We have to face reality. The problem
is real. Boko Haram will not negotiate with
anybody. It’s a waste of time, energy and effort.
They may end up talking with some people. But
the problem is there are people who are still
killing people and raising up their flags every day
in different places. This is the reality on ground.
Let’s stop the deception. Let’s stop the games.
What is happening is real. People are being killed
on a daily basis. So what ceasefire? There’s
nothing like that anywhere. Shekau himself has
been coming out almost every day, saying he
doesn’t know anything about any deal. What deal
is anybody going to strike with you that is going
to stop this trend now that is going on?
Four-way solution
To me, there are three or four things that
should be done to solve this problem of
insurgency in Nigeria. I don’t know if we can
ever totally eradicate it but I think we can
reduce it drastically and isolate it.
Number one, Christians must not relent in their
prayers. There has to be a divine input into what
is happening. I have a feeling that God has
helped us as a country; if not, the situation
would be worse. So I want to plead with every
well-meaning Nigerian to pray and pray harder.
Number two, the military must not relent. They
must buckle up. I find it very difficult to criticise
them and just pull them down to say they are
useless and all that. I’m not telling you that I’m
satisfied with what I see, but I find it difficult to
do that. There are many reasons for that.
Number one, these men are Nigerians like us.
The difference is that they signed to become
soldiers. They are married with wives and
children. They are being killed also and their
wives made widows and their children orphans.
Why should I stand here now to say that they
are useless? Having said that, there is a serious
problem in our security agency, the problem of
sabotage. I’ve been crying out about this for
almost two years now, now a lot of people are
talking about it. There is serious sabotage. It’s
been there, it is just being magnified more and
more. All our security agencies have this
problem. There are people sympathetic to Boko
Haram; some of them are even literally Boko
Haram themselves. They leak information every
day. It has become so bad that even reporters
now get the stories.
The other day I read where a plane was to go
and bomb a Boko Harm stronghold which could
have stopped the recent invasion of Mubi; but as
the plane was approaching its destination, the
pilot got a call that he should return to base and
he returned to base and these people did all
they wanted to do, then they said he should go.
So who made that call? Well, I don’t know if
they’ve found out who made the call now. There
was also an armoured car that was abandoned
intentionally. When journalists report and say the
soldiers ran away, they make it sound too
simple. That’s not what really happened.
From the information I have sometimes, there
are some commanders, not all, who will refuse
to give the command. By military operations,
soldiers cannot attack or respond without a
command. Now, if the man who is to command
them is not giving them command, and it’s
obvious they are going to kill them, what do you
expect them to do? So some of them drop their
weapons and run. The picture has to be painted
correctly. So that’s why some of them run away
like that. Then there are some who the thing
has been arranged, the people want to leave
these weapons for the other people, so they are
instructed to run. So they just run away and
leave the weapons. It’s not really that they are
afraid or can’t fight, but it’s still this sabotage
issue. They have to work out the mechanisms by
which they can fish out these people.
No matter the equipment you buy; you can buy
all the modern equipment, it is getting to a
point where the problem is not of poor
equipment, the problem is that these saboteurs
are using these equipment against government in
the sense that they are handing them over to
the insurgents. So these crazy people use these
same equipment bought with Nigerian money to
kill Nigerians. This is an issue that must be
looked into seriously and addressed urgently.
Now the third thing; this is also very important,
Nigerians, I beg us, let us stop this pretence. It
is either we are totally ignorant, which I will be
surprised of, or we are totally wicked and
pretentious. We keep saying that this thing is
not religious; it’s an insult to the sensibility of
the average Nigerian. So when will we agree that
this is a religious problem? When Nigeria is
wiped out? When these people overrun the
whole nation before we will know? I read in the
papers today that an insurgent was walking
around the streets of Mubi preaching. The
report states that Boko Haram patrol captured
towns preaching to residents. Are they going
round begging for food? They are preaching.
Preaching what? Don’t we know what they are
preaching? They are preaching Sharia. Why are
we pretending to be politically correct?
Doctrines
There are Muslims that are good friends and I
associate with. I love them. I cannot hate
Muslims. Why should I? My religion forbids me to
do that, but I am begging these people that
Muslim clerics, the notable ones from all the
denominations of Islam, because Islam has
denominations; all the Muslim clerics, all the
Muslim political leaders, all the Muslim
traditional rulers; these three groups should
please for God’s sake and for the sake of Nigeria
and for the sake of their own future and their
own children and children’s children, they should
come together.
Boko Haram will not listen to me. Boko Haram is
an ideology. Please ask this question, what is
the Salafi ideology in Islam? What is the Wahhabi
doctrine in Islam? Are there doctrines like that?
Yes. What are the doctrines that these terrorists
around the world believe in? The doctrines they
are teaching, are they not coming out of this
Wahhabi and Salafi doctrines? Boko Haram is
basically an ideology. To defeat an ideology, you
need a superior ideology. Many of our Muslim
brothers have come to say to those of us who
don’t know much about Islam that these people
are not Muslims.
Alright, but what are these people preaching? Is
it not from the Quran? Now you say you have
the real thing that this is not the real thing.
Then match the real thing with the unreal thing
or with the fake. In other words, they must
engage these people. There are few Muslim
clerics that these people respect till tomorrow.
From what I hear, they like discussing the Quran,
up to Shekau himself. They must find ways to
engage them. I will never have access to them.
They don’t even want to hear anything about me
because I’m an infidel. But they would listen to
some of these clerics. They must locate them,
find ways to engage them probably through
some of these their Quranic studies and
scholars, they may be able to get to a point
where they can discourage some of their
activities and gradually get them to become sane
again.
Local intelligence
Number four will be for these same religious
clerics to help us go to the grassroots and start
convincing the average person on the streets
probably in the mosques, that they are Nigerians
and Nigeria is a good place to belong to.
Because certain things are being told to the
people; they should start telling them that this
is a great country to believe in. They should
make them understand that Boko Haram is not
fighting for them or for their good. They are the
ones that can say these things to those people.
If they gradually do that, a lot of them, even at
the risk of their lives, will give out better
information to our security agents. Because you
can’t fight a war like this successfully without
getting good intelligence from the local people.
Some are afraid. If there is nothing you can die
for, then you really have nothing to live for. The
reality is if you don’t give out these information,
one day, these same people will kill you. If you
give out information and they catch you, they kill
you. If you don’t give out information, one day,
they will still kill you. Is it not better to give out
information? They have to try to convince them,
to make them feel that they are Nigerians.
Government will also play their part. But it is
not about poverty. They are destroying all the
infrastructures that would help put food on
people’s table, so it’s not about poverty. If you
buy car for every single one and build a house
for every one of them, it’s not going to solve
the problem because it’s a problem of ideology.
So they have to bring some reorientation. These
things must happen. So there must be a
grassroots work. Like I said, government has a
part, but to me, government’s part in this thing
is not as strong as religious leaders, political
leaders and traditional rulers. They have a
greater part to play in solving this problem.
Government will arm the military and all that
stuff, but all these three groups are the ones
that need to help us to get to the grassroots.
A lot of Almajiri schools have been built
everywhere, how many schools have been built
for Christians? Do you think a Christian can go
to almajiri school? Are there no Christians in the
North? Who is crying out for them? Who is
speaking out for them? Their own children are
roaming the streets.
Anti-Christian moves
Are we not all aware of what the nice governor
of Bauchi State did in Tafawa Balewa and other
areas dominated predominantly by Christians?
How he went and closed down a girl’s secondary
school 2011. Most of the students are
Christians. He took the Muslim students from
there and put them into other Muslim schools
and abandoned all the Christian students. They
have nowhere to go till today. Who cares?
Where are our human rights organisations?
Where are our civil society groups? Is it that
they became deaf and dumb intentionally? Those
girls are roaming the streets. If they want, we
can go and show them. They are all over the
place. I can go on and on and show you some of
these things.


source: www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/dont-negotiate-boko-haram-pastor-oritsejafor/

With due respect, Pastor sharrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Papa Ori! Abeg jst park well, this na early momo I no wan swear.

nduchucks:
With due respect, Pastor sharrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chanchit:
Papa Ori! Abeg jst park well, this na early momo I no wan swear.

Boko alert!

I can't even read all


Maybe later

Mr.OritseJETfour, stop this rambling and go face your weapon smuggling business. Mr.Bling!

See him de talk, as if he is not their ARMS SUPPLIER

When I say the bling bling pastor is dividing nigerians along religious lines,I am not wrong. Imagine what a whole CAN president is saying?

When will this man learn to keep his trap shut n continue to feed fat from the fountain of political patronage of PDP and GEJ.

How many fatwas have been given against ISIS in the middleast, how many public broadcast and messages has eminent Islamic jurists given to adherent to the silly and non scriptural acts of Boko Haram? If the first instruction of Angel Jubril to the the prophet of Islam was IQRA(read) where will BH now say it got its own version of Education being forbidden.

Guess the day SHAME was shared in the heavens, pastor bling bling wasn't at home. He keeps spewing rubbish Everytime he talks. Shiek Jaffar was killed for preaching against their ideology, shiek gunmi escaped a suicide bombing attack, many eminent scholars killed in cold blood all because they countered the sentiment and belief of boko haram.

He should leave serious matters of state security to wise counsels and continue in his gun running or money laundering private jet kabukabu biz.

This fool does not know when to keep his mouth shut.


Pastor Ayotallah OLEJAFOR is nothing but money launderer who is using his own private jet for weapons trafficking.

You will give account one day in this country. And when found guilty, you will be behind bars. Probably you will find true repentance and salvation there away from all this materialism and fooolishness you are surrounded with.