falseman:


Change that thought. Every angel was given the freewill and they all know Good from Evil. lucifer is not the tree of knowledge.

MadCow1:


It indeed is that simple...

But does not make it right.

Any sane man would hear both sides of the story before making a judgement.. But in Christianity the case is different.

That is why I have chosen to stay neutral in this matter.. God who ordered the Israelis not to kill also ordered them to wipe out the Canaanites in the same book of Exodus. Infact, the journey of the Israelis from Egypt to Canaan was riddled with killings.

God killed more people in the Bible than Lucifer yet the bible let's us to believe that Lucifer is the bad guy..


Gods word is indeed Law..

watchthisposter:
By and by when the morning comes
When the saints of God are gathered home
We shall tell the story how we overcame
We shall understand it better by and by

astronautog:
reading through ur post I knw u dnt believe in God,but I ask u this,r u sayin witches and wizards are folk tales too??bro if witches do exist then there are higher powers,ask ur self how u suddenly came into d world,look around u see the way tins works in and outside this planet.they all follow a process life is no fluke sometin is responsible for all these so bro change ur school of thought #peace.

MadCow1:


It indeed is that simple...

But does not make it right.

Any sane man would hear both sides of the story before making a judgement.. But in Christianity the case is different.

That is why I have chosen to stay neutral in this matter.. God who ordered the Israelis not to kill also ordered them to wipe out the Canaanites in the same book of Exodus. Infact, the journey of the Israelis from Egypt to Canaan was riddled with killings.

God killed more people in the Bible than Lucifer yet the bible let's us to believe that Lucifer is the bad guy..


Gods word is indeed Law..

Fancy God...the bad guy

Adiwana:


it happened before the creation of mankind.Christ was sent to Save mankind from our sins..remeber that Christ has been there before mankind..remeber ''before Abraham,i was''

brainiac007:


Well, the fact is, your limited human thinking cannot handle the truth. That is why you fail to understand what the brother is trying to say. Please proceed to the throne room of GOD for a mental upgrade!!!!!!!

sweteny:


@ooman, it's obvious you are a member of d movement OOO.. Pls respect yourself and don't be too quick to judge and insult people n their God. Our God in heaven rules in his supremacy and no one can question him for his ways are not our ways. He is a God of perfection. He gave us d choice btw good and evil and he said we should choose good dat we may live long. The devil chose wat he liked, therefore, got what he wanted. So his evil emanated from himself and not God.

Mavor:


People think that God is all good. You forget that God defines what is good and evil. He is the author and death of everything. Remember that he is a jealous being too who punished the Jews several times severely for worshiping other beings. Just follow his Word and you'll be ok.

sukkot:
the word Lucifer means ' bringer of light ' aka ' illuminated ' aka ' the morning star '. lucifer is the tree of knowledge. it is a title for people imbued with celestial knowledge

Kei144:
He. 2:6 But there is a place where someone has testified: “What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?
He. 2:7 You made him a little [Or him for a little while] lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honour
He. 2:8 and put everything under his feet.” [Psalm 8:4-6] In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him.

In Heb 2:7, we see that in the beginning God made man in such a way that for a little while he would be lower than the angels. After the little while, man would rise far above the angels and become exactly like God Himself.

You see..we will rise above angels,that means we have given power over angels and devils

Is. 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
Is. 14:13 You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
Is. 14:14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”
''i will make myself the most High''so it means he nevee wanted to unseat God rather be like him..christ says i am in the father&the father in me&we are one..thats christ position

Apparently, shortly after God created man, Lucifer saw that the newly created man would soon become greater than him. This must have excited jealousy in him. So, he said in his heart, “I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will make myself like the Most High.”
Ge. 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.
Ge. 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

How could Lucifer raise his throne above the stars of God (mankind)? The only way was to prevent them from rising up above the angels and making them to fall. So, Lucifer went to work. He lied to mankind that the way to rise to the level of God was by rebelling against God’s word. Even though God had earlier warned mankind against receiving the fruit of Satan that leads to death, they still went ahead and accepted the supposed wisdom (or fruit) of Satan and fell.

https://www.nairaland.com/2015171/purpose-jesus-mission-earth

Youngsage:

No bro.
Angels are spiritual beings, each angel is a spirit being capable of making choices/carrying out actions, though without physical bodies like humans they are still individual personalities, and just like humans, they were created with freewill, or will-power, which is subject to the will of God. They are also highly intelligent beings.
In Satan's case, you need to understand how powerful he was in heaven at the time, so powerful yet he wasn't satisfied! He wanted to rule over Heaven. And because of this freewill, he decided to rebel against God.
God had created him a beautiful and powerful angel, but through his pride in himself and greed he became evil. God had to throw him out immediately, for he couldn't remain there any longer. - together with as many as one third of the angels. Like Satan, they had freewill, and following Satan was their choice entirely.
Hope i've answered ur questions

falseman:


That was wrong. The rebellion happened after the creation of mankind and lucifer was placed in the garden of eden or do you think God casted lucifer out of heaven then placed him in the garden of eden?


Ezekiel 28:13-14 describe him as he originally was in the Garden of Eden:

“Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.”

Adiwana:

No,it was before..the devil wasnt cast into the garden of eden.he was cast down to hell..the garden of eden is like this Earth..God created us and put us in this Earth..the devil is in the bottomless pit,God in heaven..so the devil came and deceived eve thru Serpent..he didnt come in his ideal form just as the devil will ome through women,money...etc..

Pr0ton:


Witches? I only hear of them but haven't seen any. Where people got the ideas of witch was from stories... which are just stories, fictional ones. The ones practised in real life are mere superstitions. None of them is real. If there's a witch we should see her handwork; control leaders, destroy every soul that offends her, have wealth and all. The only instance where they are active is in dreams; get hallucinated and attribute it to a spiritual force.

Why don't animals ask themselves how they got here? They are smarter than that.

falseman:



Na wah oo. Did you read the verse I quoted for you earlier? Lucifer was still without blemishes when he was placed in the garden of Eden. Please read

falseman:



Get me the verse of Bible that describes him as the tree of knowledge of good and evil. You funny sha

Adiwana:

if you're an atheist,trying to convince you isnt worth it buh if you're not,then you will know that what happens in the spiritual isnt something we joke about

sukkot:
[b]well first of all, Lucifer is not a him. Lucifer is a group of people known today as the 'illuminati'. They control the world with luna energy because they have lost their celestial energy. they are now fallen angels. the word Lucifer itself is a title that moves from empire to empire depending on which empire is controlling the world. The lucifer of our time is from the caucasian empire. during the babylonian empire Nimrod was Lucifer, then we had the medopersian, greek and now the Roman / caucasian empire of which Lucifer instead of ruling the world with the laws of God, cast the laws aside and decided to bring in his own philosophies and doctrines hence casting the world into the darkness you see today. now we are waiting for the ultimate Lucifer to return which is Jesus Christ, which the book of revelation calls Christ lucifer the morning star if you are in doubt. so before you ask questions you need to know the etymology of words. Lucifer is a title not a human being. it is a title that is passed around to the empires that will rule and dominate and bring knowledge to the world[/b]

Pr0ton:


Witches? I only hear of them but haven't seen any. Where people got the ideas of witch was from stories... which are just stories, fictional ones. The ones practised in real life are mere superstitions. None of them is real. If there's a witch we should see her handwork; control leaders, destroy every soul that offends her, have wealth and all. The only instance where they are active is in dreams; get hallucinated and attribute it to a spiritual force.

Why don't animals ask themselves how they got here? They are smarter than that.

falseman:


No single quote to back up what you are saying?

Pr0ton:


If Satan was created blameless and pure, but yet sinned... Then God "should take heed lest He falls"

astronautog:
guy u just proved u r not existing in africa

simplex2:


Are we even sure another set of angels haven't revolted, and, this time, succeeded in overthrowing the monarch?

If lucifer alone could have a followership of one-third of the angels; a whooping 33.3% of billions of angels supporting him and revolting against the power of incumbency, I'm sure the other angels must have seen more reasons to join the demonstration.

emmyrichie:
According to the tale, until a certain point, the devil (Lucifer) was a devoted angel.

My question is, where did the spirit that polluted the creature (Satan) emanate from?