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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by hilario8898(m): 2:03pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
words of advice: I very much understand how the so called atheists think, they believe humans like you and I formulated the existence of God and fabricated stories to form a book called the bible, all for what? just to be able to ascertain and put all the unexplainable activities and occurences on a higher being.....are they right or wrong? really ask yourself deeply. My dear nairalanders, there are alot of things that has happened that I have seen, heard and even felt. The truth is if there is a heaven, I wanna see it, so if it means being a Christian and serving God and not sinning, i'll very much keep on doing that till my last days, cause my life is just too great and I owe it to the lord. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by rafmike(m): 2:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Why would people prefer taking paracetamol on another person's sickness. Wetin concern you and how satan became corrupted? Hv you asked yourself why we humans ase limited? Its just lyk asking "who created God,"? Na everything u must knw? De ones wei dey bible never do u? Na wa ooo. We humans can be so terrifying. We wanna know everything even wen we know we cant know everything, if possible we humans will know more than God. This is absolute GREED! No wonder God stopped de building of de tower of Babel. WE ARE LIMITED. Take it or leave it! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by uchennamani(m): 2:31pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
rafmike:nkoghieri. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:31pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by sohans(m): 2:36pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
D secret tnz blngs 2 God,bt d tin which r revealed blngs 2 us......deut.29v29 2 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by ToyozzieTohBad(f): 2:42pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
I was wondering where you got your f00lish mind from...wow its so exceptional..e ri ori bi igbin kekere MudRaker: |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by cotzywitzy(m): 2:43pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Am example... u know a passage in the bible says Angels looked down on women and see that they look so beautiful they came down and took them as wife and they gave birth to giants... u can see angels also have the freewill to choose between good or bad.... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by MudRaker: 2:45pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
ToyozzieTohBad: Because I mentioned the origins of your allah abi? 2 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 2:52pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
uchennamani: a man building a house with daily&heavy funding would complete a beautiful mansion within 6months or highest a year..check a place that was built in 2000+ years the bottom line is God is perfect and heaven is a perfect place..take it or leave it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by fhemyxXx(m): 2:59pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Tbh I don't know what to think...its actually not possible for evil to enter heaven,so how did lucifa get corrupted to an evil minded being and if there ever was evil under heaven how did it come into existence, God created everything ,so mean to say he created evil too..then we shouldn't really be blamed for not being able to resist evil,neither should we be tagged sinners,HE created sumn and wants us to desist from it,why didn't he just destroy evil itself before it corrupted lucifa's mind,so we can all live forever and happy,or doesn't HE want that? Don't tell me HE created someone in his own image and then allows the person to perish just for one silly rule he went against? Even ones parents won't let you go astray as much as they want to beat you to death for going against their rule ,not to talk of the Almighty..The thing is,there are somethings Human beings shouldn't know and I'm fvcking curious |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by larryking01(m): 3:06pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
This might seem contrary, but it is the truth. No evil spirit decieved the devil or lucifer, God created him for that purpose in other to bring about God own attributes. What are these attributes God wants to be God that is why he created angles to worship him, he wants to be a saviour, healer, etc but he canot be all these except there a man created and woman to make the man fall and he needs a devil to deceive the woman in turn deceive the man. So all these were his plan and the devil fell right into it. 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 3:15pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
fhemyxXx: see,its possible for us not sin. Matt 5:48;says ''therefore be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect'' this cant be possible unless by the holy spirit&Grace i tell people this,devil aint our problem.our problem is our flesh.Lust,love of money etc..we luv wordly things.and this is the reason many will miss rapture another thing from your statement is for eg You are given poo and fried rice&asked to chose 1.which one you go take? see,heaven is all about the elect..so it means only few people are needed in heaven.God is not interested in many people buh only few and this can be seen out of the story of Gideon(judges7) and the selection of the 12 apostles out of 70 people |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 3:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
larryking01: what a joke! |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by chrisviral(m): 3:24pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
MadCow1: We are his creations, and he does with us as he pleases. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by firstolalekan(m): 3:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by fhemyxXx(m): 3:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Adiwana: Are you serious? :-o meaning we're puppets/experiments for tests? He's perfect,good..what would he have cost him to destroy evil at the first existence of it..and let all of us rapture to heaven and be really happy? Abi heaven no go gree contain evrybody on earth,so he had to create a shuffle system,not like I'm blaspheming or somn, I'm a catholic,I'm just curious of all these |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by fairheven: 3:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Ekeretom4: First..I like your inquisitive heart,but I must say that it seems you read the bible not wit the intent to understand but wit the intent to argue. Bible says from the mouth of two or three witnesses the truth shall be established..you have quoted Isaiah14 which clearly talks about lucifer(very important to note that god did not create Satan or devil,god only created lucifer) Another scripture that buttresses the issue is ezekiel 28:15 an I quote "you were perfect in your ways from the day you were created,until INIQUITY was found in you"..first ask ourselves wat is iniquity? Iniquity simply means wen you abandoned the will of god for your life an decide to pursue your selfish desires..that is iniquity,an we do it every day ,so how do you blame god for that? |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Harmony10: 3:36pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Weselion: Jealousy, Pride, Ego, Anger etc are all came from God. God created these emotions in all his creatures to help them when they need an extra push. Just as adrenaline which give something extra when we reach a dead end and need to escape. In my estimation, most of these set of emotions are not meant for everyday use because of their destructive tendencies - they are really powerful. For instance I read once how anger can help a timid person speak fluently and boldly in that circumstance when he is angry. If you combine these emotions with other gifts such as Knowledge and freewill/freechoice created in us all, it make very powerful beings. Knowledge helps us become increasing aware of any phenomenon in our world, thereby giving us more power to get more benefit from that area of knowledge. Then we also have Free Choice to use these power the way we deem fit. Freedom is a very precious gift God bestowed on all His intelligent Beings (Angels & Humans) - something other living beings can never attain to. None of us human can never desire the life of animals or plants cos they were not created with many of these gift that makes us human beings. Having said the foregoing, what turns all these gifts from God into evil is the choice to put them to bad use. In case of lucifer, He became more aware of his position relation to God's position - knowledge. He coveted God's position and decided to put all his gift from God against God. He decided to become bad and started evil influence. He influenced a third of angels in to become demons. The truth we have freedom to make choices but what we will finally decide to do depends on both on outside influence (what we are hearing, seeing, reading etc) and inner influence (how we interpret all input into the decision making process). Please be careful of these influences and make effort to choose right because your decisions will be judged at all have be said and done. 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by firstolalekan(m): 3:40pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
MISSCONGENIALITY:Please stop contradicting yourself, EVERYTHING was created by God. Good Evil Bad Good Spirit of anything thought etc.... 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Sampunk(m): 3:44pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:story for the gods |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 4:00pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
chrisviral: hahahahaha you are not of this world chai you are of jupita or maybe saturn... |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by victorazy(m): 4:15pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
larryking01:That's why he is "The begining and the End" |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by chrisviral(m): 4:20pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
johnydon22: It's a deep sentence, only the wise will understand. It means that we shouldn't measure up with un believers, the number cars they have, houses and Mansions they av built, we shouldn't be bothered of material things of Earth, but primarily concerned with the Life after this life. Your welcome. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johny616: 4:23pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa 55:8-9). HIS ways ain't ours. So, the more you try to fathom HIM out(through logic/ your reasonings), the more you get confused. We are to worship, serve and FEAR HIM.. #Peace |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 4:30pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
padi mi ! religion doesn't give enough rooms for questions, more and more questions wil lead to another question, insult and calling of unwanted names e.g atheist will emanate. No answer for this question u asked. guyz r just perambulating |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by firstolalekan(m): 4:30pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
happyzed0:Question for you if you don't want to remain an ignorant prick. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 4:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
chrisviral: see guy leave this thing... You are in planet earth and that is the only reality their is... its just sad how people ignore the known and love the unknown. you have been taught since childhood about heaven and u believe it totally which is good for u, but neither of us are sure about that heaven is real we only know because someone told us... you are on earth which is the only reality and u and i cant argue about that cus it is truer than true. so enjoy this world while u can, even there will be an eternal life for u as u hope u are still unsure. u are only sure of this one chance which u have now, this one opportunity to walk the earth. make the most of it... Thank You 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by malvisguy212: 4:52pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
emmyrichie:satan was created as a beautiful angel,God gave him everything he would ever want,God created him with one of the best material, infect this vers describe satan as an exceeding beautiful angel; Ezekiel 28:12–15 12 “Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God: “You were the signet of perfection,1 full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; fevery precious stone was your covering, sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire,2 femerald, and carbuncle; and crafted in gold were your settings and your engravings.3 On the day that you were created they were prepared. 14 You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you;4 you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked. in this passage of isaiah, I want you to NOTIC THE WORD ''I WILL'' Isaiah 14:12–15 12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ 15 hBut you are brought down to Sheol, to the far reaches of the pit. Satan desired to be God, to essentially “kick God off His throne” and take over the rule of the universe. Satan wanted to be God, and interestingly enough, that is what Satan tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden of Eden. It was pride and jealousy that make him do all this. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by HenryBangs(m): 5:12pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Weselion: don't u knw that pride is a spirit? |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by chrisviral(m): 5:40pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
johnydon22: Enjoyment is conventional, what you enjoy, I may not and just so you know, I AM FULLY ENjOYING MY LIFE IN CHRIST. Thank you. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 6:40pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
What a difficult question to answer. Using our human sense to answer this question will amount to nothing. However God created male and female, morning and night, sun and moon, etc. About Good and evil, it's a choice we have 2 make. He gives the free will to us to decide our choice. When we get 2 heaven by his grace, all this questions in our heart will be answer by him. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 6:57pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
johnydon22: Sir, this is where u are getting it wrong. You can choose to believe what you want to believe but take time to read the following lines, carefully. 1. Satan was created, initially, perfect. 2. Perfection, in this case, means without sin or rebellion. 3. But , yes, there is a but. 4. God didnt create robots . . . .or machines 5. He could have created robots or machines if he wanted 6. But he choose to install freewill . . . what is freewill . . cos u seem not to understand the meaning of freewill Freewill is the ability to choose between good or bad . . . Now back to our topic 7. When God created the angels, he created them perfect but with freewill 8, He gave them conscience . . . 9. The conscience enabled them to know good and bad . .. dont ask me how bad came to exist, its'a foolish question, but i'll answer 10. The conscience preaches to somebody . . .e.g. if i tell you to drink 100 bottles of malt, will u agree? Hell no, why? cos you'll know u might not survive it. But have u seen on the news where they said 100 bottle of malt killed somebody, No . . . it hasnt happened before. But when i ask you to drink 100 bottle of malt, there's a spirit within you that tells you it's risky and you might die. Now that's freewill ! 100 bottles of malt hasnt killed anybody, but u know it can kill you, so u refuse. Back to our topic. 11. When the angels were created, they were instructed by God . . worship me and everybody is happy, disobey me and you will be punished. that's a simple and realistic rule . . . So they knew right from the onset that worshipping God was the right thing, and disobeying God was the wrong thing. How canyou even disobey somebody that created you ? 12. But God told them, I cannot force you . . worship me or disobey me . . stay with me or suffer defeat, the choice is yours to make. Now that's freewill . . The angels will not worship God by force, God showed them, this is good , this is bad . . You should choose the good, but if you like, you can choose the bad. I will not force you, make the choice yourself. 13. Satan decided to choose the bad, and so did Adam . . in the garden of Eden . . God told him, eat from every tree, but this tree, pls dont eat. it was more like a test, and Adam disobeyed. How can you disobey someone who created you? Can you disobey your father? It means you don't respect or value him. . . Back to our topic 14. Satan choose the bad , since Satan isnt a robot, he is human like you. he has been given the gift of life and death and has been advised to choose life. But he said NO, i want death, so how is it God's fault. Mind you, when Satan chose to rebel, God could have killed him instantly . . but no, God said , since you chose death, i will use you as an example to show other people what death looks like . . .So God didnt kill him, only defeated him and sent him down to earth. He lost his powers to materialise. Back then angels could materialise and turn into humans, but Satan lost the ability, God wthdrew it from him, but didnt kill him 15. Now the choice is yours. Use Satan as an example. He was created perfect, but God gave him a choice. e.g You as a human, I can choose to give you 9 black women and 1 white woman, and i tell you. You can sleep wit the 9 black women, but pls dont even touch or kiss the last white woman. And you went ahead to disobey . . . Now you cant say i caused it, because 9 women are enough to satisfy every desire you can think of, breaking the law with the 10th woman is pure greed, selfishness and disobedience. Now u will ask me again, where does greed, selfishness and disobedience cme from? And i reply you: Cos when i gave you the 9 women, i showed you. I told you already, sleep and do whatevrr with 9 women and enjoy life. Touch the 10th woman and you will die . . . And you choose to touch the 10th woman, then surely u must die . . Thanks |
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