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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by badex11: 1:41pm On Dec 21, 2014
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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by maafen: 1:43pm On Dec 21, 2014
b3llo:
Permutate then combine the 12 digit and guess! 12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
If you can do that successfully, MTN recharge card is yours! I wish you Luck

You are making it simple, because what you have done is permutation without repetition, while in reality there is repetition so therefore it maths is something like this
for MTN for example12 digits: 12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12 = x

the probability of you getting a recharge pin correct is 1/( x - number of recharge pins not in use).
the figures we are talking about here is in the realm of billions.

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by BuddhaPalm(m): 1:47pm On Dec 21, 2014
seangy4konji:
Smoking gun presents worlds dumbest.

Dude thanks. I really fell on the floor laughing. cheesy cheesy
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Misogynist2014(m): 1:48pm On Dec 21, 2014
onyekachee:
How can you guess 12 digits when you cannot win 4 accumulations in football betting
The probability of guessing correctly is not 11! since there are many pins you can load. What makes it difficult is that there is a secret formula used in the formation of those numbers, which is regularly changed, hence the reason credits expire. Since it is still possible to guess correctly, that is why you are given few chances of loading. Hope this helps @op?

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by nymphomaniac(m): 1:54pm On Dec 21, 2014
some one working in any of these telecommunication corporations should come tell us. am interested even though I can afford any amount of card I want...I think there is a programme for it sha. lemme scurry and scour d deep web

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by chubbypearl(f): 1:58pm On Dec 21, 2014
iamrealdeji:
exactly,women ain't always this smart
...and men are?
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by lilezzy: 1:58pm On Dec 21, 2014
maafen:


You are making it simple, because what you have done is permutation without repetition, while in reality there is repetition so therefore it maths is something like this
for MTN for example12 digits: 12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12 = x

the probability of you getting a recharge pin correct is 1/( x - number of recharge pins not in use).
the figures we are talking about here is in the realm of billions.



u're also wrong. Since each of the numbers must be within the range of 0-9, then the permutation becomes

10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10 = 10 raised to power 12 grin
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Nobody: 2:00pm On Dec 21, 2014
You sabi book
b3llo:
Permutate then combine the 12 digit and guess! 12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
If you can do that successfully, MTN recharge card is yours! I wish you Luck
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Excelboi(m): 2:01pm On Dec 21, 2014
My junior Bro have once guessed an MTN recharge correctly before. It luck
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by tartar9(m): 2:02pm On Dec 21, 2014
its very easy,if you know numbers youre good to go.just start from ,000000000000,000000000001,000000000002,000000000003,000000000004 just continue like this till you reach 999999999999.at least you will hit one correct pin.thank me later.

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by haibe(m): 2:05pm On Dec 21, 2014
tartar9:
its very easy,if you know numbers youre good to go.just start from ,000000000000,000000000001,000000000002,000000000003,000000000004 just continue like this till you reach 999999999999.at least you will hit one correct pin.thank me later.
ur line would have been banned forever

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Misogynist2014(m): 2:06pm On Dec 21, 2014
If I may guess, we have 12 columns and one row, in each row, the probability of one number occurring is 11! , in the column, 9!, multiply both. Gigantic! minus those already used. I'm a mathematician! cheesy
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by dachpee(m): 2:08pm On Dec 21, 2014
Every recharge pin has its serial no, you might have the right pin through guessing but all pins has been attached to a serial no. So impossible!!!
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by henryobinna(m): 2:08pm On Dec 21, 2014
nymphomaniac:
some one working in any of these telecommunication corporations should come tell us. am interested even though I can afford any amount of card I want...I think there is a programme for it sha. lemme scurry and scour d deep web
you visit

.onions?

better don't get caught.

its criminal
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Sunnybabe(m): 2:09pm On Dec 21, 2014
bunchdrich:
yea, but i have a software that can manipulate some card using the serial number.
wot iz d name of d software
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Kbraims(m): 2:10pm On Dec 21, 2014
U can jst guess d 12 digit nd get it correctly,is done by using statistical software
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Nobody: 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2014
Oyimzy:
Sometimes you get broke and decide to formulate recharge pins thinking you'll get lucky and recharge your phone for free sorry bro/sis you will always get this response - The pin you are loading does not exist. Pls check and try again!!!

So what's the 'Big Secret'? How are the numbers combined? What makes it almost impossible for someone to guess the right pin?

Nairaland experts come in and tell us....




OP is very possible... follow this steps below.....
1. Buy 999999999999 mtn lines....
2. On each line.. try starting from 00000000001, 00000000002, ..., till you get to 999999999999

3. Result, this could take months to complete.. but when succesful, you don load all the card wey dey 9ja b dat oh....

4. the only way mtn can stop you is if they can change from 12 digits to 13digit more or less....recharge system.
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Nobody: 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2014
Oyimzy:
Sometimes you get broke and decide to formulate recharge pins thinking you'll get lucky and recharge your phone for free sorry bro/sis you will always get this response - The pin you are loading does not exist. Pls check and try again!!!

So what's the 'Big Secret'? How are the numbers combined? What makes it almost impossible for someone to guess the right pin?

Nairaland experts come in and tell us....



That means u still dey doubt juju from my village...

Don't vow on that o...
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Misogynist2014(m): 2:18pm On Dec 21, 2014
Ezechinwa:





OP is very possible... follow this steps below.....
1. Buy 999999999999 mtn lines....
2. On each line.. try starting from 00000000001, 00000000002, ..., till you get to 999999999999

3. Result, this could take months to complete.. but when succesful, you don load all the card wey dey 9ja b dat oh....

4. the only way mtn can stop you is if they can change from 12 digits to 13digit more or less....recharge system.
Pls help me multiply 39916800 * 362880, that's the number of possibilities.
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by BotherMleeper(m): 2:27pm On Dec 21, 2014
If 10 thousand monkeys hammering randomly at typewriters will someday produce Shakespeare's works, guessing the right combination is a probabilistic occurrence.

Law of averages supports this.

But then again: no one can be so broke to try this.
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Nobody: 2:32pm On Dec 21, 2014
b3llo:
Permutate then combine the 12 digit and guess! 12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
If you can do that successfully, MTN recharge card is yours! I wish you Luck
In addition,when permutating and combining,it takes tenths and tenths of numbers to generate one correct number in the pin..The pin is also sequel to the serial number..So,your permutation will consume sheets if you were to successfully generate one likely number..This telecom guys don't use humans to generate this number..They use a permutation web- related software that has an advance encrpypted I.d protection..

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by nymphomaniac(m): 2:33pm On Dec 21, 2014
henryobinna:
you visit

.onions?

better don't get caught.

its criminal
I guess u do too. IT isn't criminal, at least not in Nigeria

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by raziboi(m): 2:35pm On Dec 21, 2014
onyekachee:
How can you guess 12 digits when you cannot win 4 accumulations in football betting



badt gal
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Caracta(f): 2:37pm On Dec 21, 2014
iamrealdeji:
exactly,women ain't always this smart

Because you are surrounded by dumb ones!

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by johncreek: 2:40pm On Dec 21, 2014
iamrealdeji:
exactly,women ain't always this smart
Not all of them are dullant like you.
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by addempsea(m): 2:45pm On Dec 21, 2014
kaka22:
The probability of guessing it right on a scale of 0 to 10 is like 0.0000232... Anyway, waiting for someone to show us the way cheesy
There's no scale in probability, its always less than or equal to 1. tongue

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Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Sampunk(m): 2:45pm On Dec 21, 2014
just looking for a girl to friend.
thanks.
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by Lexusgs430: 2:49pm On Dec 21, 2014
The same way you cannot guess someone's 4 digit bank atm's pin !!!!
Re: Why You Can Never Guess Correctly A Recharge Pin! by henryobinna(m): 2:49pm On Dec 21, 2014
nymphomaniac:
I guess u do too. IT isn't criminal, at least not in Nigeria
we no get laws for naija na.

you think some of them know anything about the internet?

when una former minister if information say GEJ give una FB.

so keep visiting.

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