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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by justwise(m): 9:34am On Jan 11, 2015
lilmax:
I wonder what a woman will be doing from the age of 20-30,how can you chase happiness for 10yrs ,there's nothing like manipulation.set your goals right and things will flow

No woman should settle for less in the name of marriage. You get married because you are In love with somebody and share things in common, you don't get married because the society wants you to.

In Nigeria we make women feel guilty and unwanted because they are not married at our own time and when they got married to a wrong man because of pressure from the society and the marriage ended in disaster we call them 'second-hand'

Let's allow people to make their choices at their own time and live with it.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Gerrard59(m): 9:35am On Jan 11, 2015
Valeree:
I think the op is right... as a single working class, I get the " when are you getting married question" left, right and center... like my life depended on it.. and it makes me uncomfortable sometimes.
I have also noticed that the questions comes more from guys too.



The problem with that is most Nigerian men don't like to see a single working class lady being successful at her given career.
We have persons who have been coaxed into marriage thinking with all things are possible and they will easily be happy. Men enter marriages and still sleep outside their matrimonial home.
Same men who forced, persuade, mock women into marriages would later come and vomit out that variety is the spice of life.

Like I have always been a saying, Marriage is not everything and marriage cannot be compulsory. Live your life the way you deem fit, as long as you're happy with your life, anybody else opinion can go to hell.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by zeb04(f): 9:38am On Jan 11, 2015
justwise:


No woman should settle for less in the name of marriage. You get married because you are In love with somebody and share things in common, you don't get married because the society wants you to.

In Nigeria we make women feel guilty and unwanted because they are not married at our own time and when they got married to a wrong man because of pressure from the society and the marriage ended in disaster we call them 'second-hand'

Let's allow people to make their choices at their own time and live with it.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 9:41am On Jan 11, 2015
justwise:


No woman should settle for less in the name of marriage. You get married because you are In love with somebody and share things in common, you don't get married because the society wants you to.

In Nigeria we make women feel guilty and unwanted because they are not married at our own time and when they got married to a wrong man because of pressure from the society and the marriage ended in disaster we call them 'second-hand'

Let's allow people to make their choices at their own time and live with it.

Thank you. Nice comment from a man with a working brain.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 9:42am On Jan 11, 2015
Gerrard59:




The problem with that is most Nigerian men don't like to see a single working class lady being successful at her given career.
We have persons who have been coaxed into marriage thinking with all things are possible and they will easily be happy. Men enter marriages and still sleep outside their matrimonial home.
Same men who forced, persuade, mock women into marriages would later come and vomit out that variety is the spice of life.

Like I have always been a saying, Marriage is not everything and marriage cannot be compulsory. Live your life the way you deem fit, as long as you're happy with your life, anybody else opinion can go to hell.

Thank you. You totally understand what the Op is saying.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by lilmax(m): 9:43am On Jan 11, 2015
justwise:


No woman should settle for less in the name of marriage. You get married because you are In love with somebody and share things in common, you don't get married because the society wants you to.

In Nigeria we make women feel guilty and unwanted because they are not married at our own time and when they got married to a wrong man because of pressure from the society and the marriage ended in disaster we call them 'second-hand'

Let's allow people to make their choices at their own time and live with it.
how can they get married to the right person when they pick men like beans? And at the end they blame the society

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by lilmax(m): 9:48am On Jan 11, 2015
freecocoa:
It's not a must to get married and anyone who allows another manipulate him/her into marriage should blame no one but themselves, simples.
cool
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by justwise(m): 9:52am On Jan 11, 2015
lilmax:
how can they get married to the right person when they pick men like beans? And at the end they blame the society

They have to pick so as to avoid ending up with a rotten beans addressed up as Prince Charming

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 11, 2015
carefreewannabe:
Nice one OP.

The best are the religious hypocrites who will cite the Bible to judge and condemn others forgetting these passages:

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged."



I remember one thread about Genevieve Nnaji. It was about a dress she wore. The ladies commented on the dress, and 80% of the MALE posters asked why she wasn't married, yet. Are men more desperate to get married?

Oh yes!! They are. They are as desperate as the ladies. they only use Ego to cover up with a lot of other excuses so that it appears its just only women that are desperate. Otherwise, i dnt see any other reason why they have to constantly remind working class ladies with good carreers to go and marry. Maybe they fear ladies will with time not find them desirable hence the pressure. Its all because of fear.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Arsenate(m): 9:55am On Jan 11, 2015
Sophyrocks:

Thank you. Nice comment from a man with a working brain.
kai, this lady sha. so basically, anyone who has an opinion contrary to yours does not have a working brain. lmao

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 9:57am On Jan 11, 2015
carefreewannabe:
Nice one OP.
I remember one thread about Genevieve Nnaji. It was about a dress she wore. The ladies commented on the dress, and 80% of the MALE posters asked why she wasn't married, yet. Are men more desperate to get married?

Naah. Women are more desperate to get married..

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 9:57am On Jan 11, 2015
Arsenate:
kai, this lady sha. so basically, anyone who has an opinion contrary to yours does not have a working brain. lmao

Thats the exact same thing you say with one who agrees with you. It takes a working brain that is non judgemental to understand what the Op is implying. People will always read twisted meanings to the Op. So yes, he has a working brain.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by lilmax(m): 10:08am On Jan 11, 2015
justwise:


They have to pick so as to avoid ending up with a rotten beans addressed up as Prince Charming
tell that to the girls you see in church praying for husbands, well I stand on my opinion the moment they realize it's not about already made men the better for them

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by scribble: 10:10am On Jan 11, 2015
The problem is partly on the men

So many men deceiving women by lying to them to enter their skirt

Personally I can't date a girl I know I won't marry

Getting married to my college sweetheart soon. 6 years courtship

But she Sef try....she stayed with me from NYSC to the multi millions now

She deserves her king

Most naija babes want ready made

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by bukatyne(f): 10:11am On Jan 11, 2015
italo:
Tobechi20, what we should be working towards is good stable marriages.

It is God's plan for continuing the human race.

So it is beneficial to the society at large. It is good for the upbringing of good children. It is good for the wellbeing of the spouses too.

The approach you have taken is one aimed at watering down the inestimable importance of marriage.

That is the work of the devil. That's why he and his agents are trying to force the rest of us to accept gay unions as marriage, legalize and promote abortion, pornographyy, casual premarital sex etc. The devil knows that all these will weaken the institution of marriage. And when marriage is weakened, society will fall apart. Humanity will be destroyed.

Women were more loved and respected when society took marriage more importantly. Since society started promoting all those vices above, women have been terribly disrespected. Sometimes they're even treated like animals whose worth are only in servicing the pleasures of men.

If you doubt look at our music videos. You see women shaking their bum bums and guys pouring champagne all over them and slapping them.

I dont even want to talk about the humiliating dehumanization of women in pornography.

No woman or man was designed to raise children alone. 95% of those single mothers and divorcees will still be preyed upon and used as guinea pigs to satisfy the sexual urges of other people's husbands. Husbands who will fight tooth and nail to safeguard the unity of their own proper families.

Do you know that it is scientifically proven that a woman carries the DNA of any man she has unprotected sex with for the rest of her life?

Think about the mental and spiritual consequences of this.

*I strongly condemn violence and unjust manipulation from men and women alike.

What I advocate is good, loving, stable and holy marriages for men and women.

@bold: agreed

I doubt the OP has said people should not marry... he said people should not be manipulated or pressured to marry

I am yet to see the wrong in that.

Infact, if people are left to make their choices, we might have fewer families but definitely stronger and healthier ones. I deciding to marry means I have a vision of the home I like, will look for someone who fits in and be ready to build a home.

Marriage has not stopped people from doing what they will so why force them to add someone else to their misery? We have a lot of married bachelors and spinsters around ; why don't we let them be?

We have people who want kids and after the kids want out of the marriage; doesn't the other partner become an automatic single parent?

Compare the performance of students who pay for their education (esp. Primary and Secondary) with those who have free education scheme.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Daddi: 10:12am On Jan 11, 2015
elantraceey:
Nice one op


The pressure they put on ladies sometimes is too much , forgetting that marriage is not just a day affair.
to the writer or tobechi20 , this is like treating symptoms than cause. Fight for better/increased opportunities for women then other things 'll fix themselves.
Many ladies marry for wrong reasons no thanks to poverty/lack many of them have.
1. Majority marry not 'cos of love but for material things. How many of them are ready to build with a man they love who's not already made. In that case why wont the marriage have issues. (fact is 8 out 10 women'll dump their men they claim to love once a richer guy shows up).
2. The little that got penny in their purse now sees submissive to their husband as crime.
3. Laziness, u'll see a 1st class trained lady & she's very comfortable to sit in the house to depend on a man for her needs. Even if the man have more than enough, pls put ur training to work atleast for the benefit of the society.
I have alot to say but time wont permit me. Campaign for opportunities for the women then they'll marry rightly and these ish 'll sort themselves out.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by justwise(m): 10:26am On Jan 11, 2015
lilmax:
tell that to the girls you see in church praying for husbands, well I stand on my opinion the moment they realize it's not about already made men the better for them

Yes I do agreed with you that some women go for 'ready made men' but we don't need to pretend to be ready made so as to get married. Let somebody marry you for who you really are.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Gud1(m): 10:26am On Jan 11, 2015
Nice @Op
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Daniel058(m): 10:31am On Jan 11, 2015
lomaxx:
Marriage is a choice. And if anybody feels they can stay happy unmarried, then they should stay that way. This country is a democratic country and the constitution affords everyone a freedom of choice. No one should choose to get married and come here to say they were manipulated. That's blatant rubbish!!!
ur comments no get part 2 jore... No b by force angry

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Daddi: 10:32am On Jan 11, 2015
lilmax:
I wonder what a woman will be doing from the age of 20-30,how can you chase happiness for 10yrs,there's nothing like manipulation.set your goals right and things will flow
God bless u dear. What I hate are those that mess things up and start blame game. Though there're human errors or unfortunate situations but they contribute just 5% to a person's situation.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Lordmykel(m): 10:35am On Jan 11, 2015
See your mouth like "you are on the receiving end" lipsrsealed

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 10:39am On Jan 11, 2015
Akranez:


Naah. Women are more desperate to get married..

I don't see it that way. I think that it again depends on the individual and the circumstances the individual finds him- / herself in.
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 10:39am On Jan 11, 2015
Sophyrocks:


Oh yes!! They are. They are as desperate as the ladies. they only use Ego to cover up with a lot of other excuses so that it appears its just only women that are desperate. Otherwise, i dnt see any other reason why they have to constantly remind working class ladies with good carreers to go and marry. Maybe they fear ladies will with time not find them desirable hence the pressure. Its all because of fear.
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by lilmax(m): 10:43am On Jan 11, 2015
Daddi:
God bless u dear. What I hate are those that mess things up and start blame game. Though there're human errors or unfortunate situations but they contribute just 5% to a person's situation.
Nigerian girls need to be educated about marriage thats all,no thanks to the nonsense they read here on nairaland

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 10:47am On Jan 11, 2015
carefreewannabe:


I don't see it that way. I think that it again depends on the individual and the circumstances the individual finds him- / herself in.

Well a woman attains maturity quite early as compared to men. A woman loses her capability to give birth somewhere at the age of 45yrs or so.
This means that, the older she gets, the lower her chances of finding someone to settle down with. So because of these things, women are more desperate to get married..
Just saying..

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 10:55am On Jan 11, 2015
Akranez:


Well a woman attains maturity quite early as compared to men. A woman loses her capability to give birth somewhere at the age of 45yrs or so.
This means that, the older she gets, the lower her chances of finding someone to settle down with. So because of these things, women are more desperate to get married..
Just saying..

These are definitely factors that some women are worried about and this is why I said that it depends on the individual and the circumstances.

Apart from the fact that the biological clock of a woman starts ticking earlier (even though people do not know that to become a father later in life bears some risks too), sometimes I think that a woman who earns enough to live an independent life gains less from a marriage than a man, I said SOMETIMES.

In the last years, I have observed that when an elderly man becomes a widower, he is sort of more desperate and "helpless" than when an elderly woman becomes a widow. I made these observations when I talked to different elderly people in hospitals who shared their life stories with me (you know elderly folks they talk a lot cheesy), because I had a family member who spent a considerable time in hospital last year.

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 11:00am On Jan 11, 2015
carefreewannabe:


These are definitely factors that some women are worried about and this is why I said that it depends on the individual and the circumstances.

Apart from the fact that the biological clock of a woman starts ticking earlier (even though people do not know that to become a father later in life bears some risks too), sometimes I think that a woman who earns enough to live an independent life gains less from a marriage than a man, I said SOMETIMES.

In the last years, I have observed that when an elderly man becomes a widower, he is sort of more desperate and "helpless" than when an elderly woman becomes a widow. I made these observations when I talked to different elderly people in hospitals who shared their life stories with me (you know elderly folks they talk a lot cheesy), because I had a family member who spent a considerable time in hospital last year.


I feel you smiley
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Toks2008(m): 11:01am On Jan 11, 2015
Lets face it, good husband and wife material dey scarce
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 11:01am On Jan 11, 2015
Akranez:


I feel you smiley

I don't understand. smiley
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by victorazy(m): 11:02am On Jan 11, 2015
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Lesbo is talking!
Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by lastpage: 11:05am On Jan 11, 2015
TV01:
What is this foul-smelling hot mess early on a Saturday morning A tipper load of bovine scatology to ruin the weekend grin! Thank God TV01 NL' Foremost marriage advocate and defender of delightful matrimony is at hand - it must be sanitation day cheesy!


"Good" husbands are scarce, and thinking like this is not helping the situation. Best prepare and start early for your matrimonial adventure kiss


Nope, but long-term, the thoughts of the vast majority will turn to marriage - and indeed, society flourishes best that way. As above!


Nope, it's not a crime, it's a societal ill, and rightly stigmatised, it has no benefits over child-rearing in wedlock and has a cost to society.


Another societal ill, which should be avoided, and would be vastly reduced if my earlier advice were taken and applied.


There could be changes in approach that would improve things, but overall the emphasis on marriage is the right one.


Be as that may be, don't attack marriage, work to better prepare people for it


Anyone who cares about their family or friends will be concerned about their marital prospects and outlook when they are of age.


Inverted logic - which characterises this whole post - does refusal to abort cause single mothers?


Should divorce be lauded? Encouraged?? Celebrated Or even considered a good thing. Did you put any thought into this


Every one is responsible for their own choice - no one is forced to marry. And manipulation would all but disappear if my advice above is taken


Are single women forced to get pregnant? Are they best advised to have children without the presence of a committed father. Single mothers pursue marriage hard because of the burden of raising children alone, not the other way round. Honestly?


Very few women are cut out for long-term spinsterhood or men for bachelorhood. It's absolutely right that she is prepared and encouraged to marry.


If they are correctly prepared and don't do it for selfish reasons, divorce will be rare. Teach them to do it properly not reject whats best for them and society.


Yes, it's a mans world - and nothing is changing anytime soon. Despite the best efforts of purveyors of neo-ideologies. And why? Not least 'cos women want it that way grin!

Now please take this losers charter, this attack on the family, this outrage against society and shove it. It's foul and smellier than a 2buff stanky kitty-kat thread grin!

Are you married wink? And if not, why not, don't you realise there's a best window of opportunity? that good spouses are scarce? That it's best to commit as soon as you are ready and have your children in wedlock? That all the best reception halls are booked until 2020? that... grin!


TV

Thank you for this ROBUST Rebuttal!

The Poster is one of those people who try to use "scare mongering" to initiate the inexperienced into their world of marital failure!

Single motherhood, Divorce and Pressure to marry, IS NOT a Nigerian thing!
Go abroad and you will even see more of these things in the society...... so are we to also blame NIGERIAN MENTALITY IN THOSE cOUNTRIES?


Again, "Single Motherhood" is not caused mainly by unwanted pregnancy!
Most Single mothers are women who have seared child (ren) with a man they are either married to or "live-in" with, in a "spouse/relationship" setting!
The "Single Motherhood" actually resulted when the parties decided that they cannot live together anymore .....in most cases, the woman, knowing all the "Egunje" that will come her way as a single mother (Child benefit, Early Childcare allowance, free house, Lone parent allowance, Child support, Spouse maintenance, e.t.c) DECIDES IT IS MORE FINANCIALLY REWARDING FOR HER TO JETTISON THE RELATIONSHIP (keep-out the father of her child from their home).
This is a conscious, financial and economic decision, it has NOTHING to do with Nigerian mentality!


I once told a gathering that if "ALL the FINACIAL INCENTIVES" of Single Motherhood are REMOVED, how many women will be so eager to go that route? grin grin

We should endeavour to always tell the truth so that those coming behind will know what they are going into, when it comes to such social issues.

Marriage is a commitment, by TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, agreeing to live together, with the understanding that they are not perfect, will annoy each other, will fight, will disagree, will occasionally get frustrated with the other but come whatever may, will be open to "discussion and shifting-ground" for the purpose of reaching a compromise governed by the simple rule that "TOGETHER IS FOREVER" and "One person must blow cold, when the other is blowing hot".

There is not perfect marriage but the moment you both decide independently and individually that NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL STICK TOGETHER AND RESOLVE OUR PROBLEM WITH LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, THAT YOU ARE BETTER TOGETHER THAN SEPARATED,.....You will eventually mature to overcome your challenges.

Thisis coming from someone who is married for like TWO DECADES!
Sometimes l feel like wacking Mrs Lastpage when she annoys me and l know that there are times she feels like using the Pestle on my head! shocked shocked
But we both understand that "fault recognition, apology, tolerance, forgiveness and LOVE for each other will not allow us to cross that line".

My advice:
Woman.... dont marry if you think you want to claim "equality and independence", those things are easier to propagate when you are Single and all by yourself. If you cannot humble yourself to your husband, accommodate his excesses like you would accommodate the "excesses of your little son without deciding to throw the boy into the Canal when he misbehaves or angers you, then dont marry because the reason you are called the NECK of the head is that you can "gently control the direction" the head goes, without aggravating the head in the process!


Man .... dont marry if your ego is too swollen and you think apologizing when you are wrong, is weakness!
Dont marry if you dont understand that the primary responsibility of a husband is to "protect his family at all cost" ....because that is the only reason you are called "HEAD" of the family! It comes with a lot of responsibility... and ofcourse, with a lot of benefit as well

This is what we should be teaching our younger ones, not some bullshyte "no-gree for am", you be equal, fire-for-fire nonsense"

A GOOD WIFE does not need to claim 'equality' because she owns EVERYTHING, including her husband!
Equality means she is fighting for just "HALF"!
But if you are a "good wife", your husband will naturally surrender everything to you ....fortunately, that is the way men are "wired".

Actually, "its a WOMAN'S WORLD.... if she can "play it" THE WAY NATURE DESIGNED IT" .... UNFORTUNATELY, MOST WOMEN WANT TO "FORCE IT"

Finally: "A HAPPY MAN is one who is Happy with his wife .... but a VERY HAPPY MAN is one whose wife is very happy with him"
I hope we can all notice the difference?


Lastpage!

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Re: Nigerian Mentality Used In Manipulating Women Into Marriage by Nobody: 11:05am On Jan 11, 2015
lilmax:
I wonder what a woman will be doing from the age of 20-30,how can you chase happiness for 10yrs,there's nothing like manipulation.set your goals right and things will flow

She will work on her career, make money, do an excellent job, take care of her elderly folks if needed, travel around the world, do charity, educate herself further ....

A good life for those who can and want to live it and often more interesting than being married.

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