My older sister is currently in Ethiopia helping out with an orphanage. And those "Cushite looking" kids are very grateful that she came. Matter fact she said she's having a good time and the natives are treating her nice. She's in the ACTUAL country of Ethiopia(I even have pics as proof) and yet the people don't merely see her as some "Bantu Negroid" as you would put it.

So I ask why is that? I'm confused.

KidStranglehold:
My older sister is currently in Ethiopia helping out with an orphanage. And those "Cushite looking" kids are very grateful that she came. Matter fact she said she's having a good time and the natives are treating her nice. She's in the ACTUAL country of Ethiopia(I even have pics as proof) and yet the people don't merely see her as some "Bantu Negroid" as you would put it.

So I ask why is that? I'm confused.

Do you think anyone would treat her equally in the capital where she is not helping orphans?

axum:



Do you think anyone would treat her equally in the capital where she is not helping orphans?

Actually she was in the capitol.

Before she even went to the orphanage.


On facebook she told us that people were pleased to see her, because they knew she was an American because she was light skin and so she stood out.

These two Ethiopian kids were following her along with many others.



Funny how reality works differently of your view of it.

KidStranglehold:


Actually she was in the capitol.

Before she even went to the orphanage.


On facebook she told us that people were pleased to see her, because they knew she was an American because she was light skin and so she stood out.

These two Ethiopian kids were following her along with many others.



Funny how reality works differently of your view of it.

These two kids are orphans and young. There was a video of a Bantu journalist or something who went to an ethiopian village and everyone was scared and ran, he even said that their was extreme racism there. lol i will try and find it.

axum:



These two kids are orphans and young. There was a video of a Bantu journalist or something who went to an ethiopian village and everyone was scared and ran, he even said that their was extreme racism there. lol i will try and find it.

Those kids weren't orphans. Again she was in the capital Addis Ababa when she took that picture. Certainly those kids weren't afraid or had prejudice to go up to her for her to take a picture. Why is that?

Again this was before she went to the orphanage which is outside the capital.

KidStranglehold:


Those kids weren't orphans. Again she was in the capital Addis Ababa when she took that picture. Certainly those kids weren't afraid or had prejudice to go up to her for her to take a picture. Why is that?

Again this was before she went to the orphanage which is outside the capital.

What is your point. Litle kids are not born racist. Its something they learn. The fact your posting this shows how desperate you are took seek acceptance.


There are many articles about the hatred Ethiopians have for Negroes. They have slaughtered and ensalved the Nilotic in the south for hundreds of years, even using them as target practice until the Italians freed them during their short tenure inside Ethiopia. Same in Somalia, it was Italians who ended slavery in the 1930's.

The headquarters of the former ‘Organisation for African Unity’, OAU, Since re-christened AU for African Union, is situated in the far northeastern corner of Africa, in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa - of all places. But that is not the main reason why time and again African leaders and diplomats have been calling for a transfer of the the headquarters to some other place…


It may sound strange, but that reason is simply racism, with a capital R. Yes, racism in the middle of Africa. Or so at least among that nation of ethnic group which for the last 120 years and until 1991 virtually owned political power in the country: the Amharas. Regarding themselves as the true Ethiopians or brown ones, they also keep maintaining that "this is not Africa", that they are Semites or Kushites and not black Africans, or something better, so to speak.


Now if you keep that for yourself, to compensate for whatever complex you might otherwise be suffering from, it wouldn't really matter. In realy life, however, it does matter. The least inconvenience, so to speak is the one suffered in the capitalAddis Ababa by dark-skinned, thick-nosed and -lipped black Africans, on whom the average Ethiopian Amhara likes to look down upon. Now these gentlemen spend most of their time in offices or conferences. Their wives, however, are much worse off, since they have to go out almost daily into the streets and markets to do their shopping, where they are made to feel that they are different. Most of the time by gestures, but very often too in words and remarks which come straight from the vocabulary of racism. The most defamatory word which can be heard quite regularly describing black Africans is 'shankilla', which translated into common English simply means "SLAVE... and which just reminds us that until the fifties emperor Haile Selassie and his feudal companions used to have slaves at their courts. Slaves there are no more, yet the term is still being used. And if that isn't then as a brown Ethiopian friend of mine toldme, another hardly less derogatory word is commonly being used. He told me how he overheard one of those carefully chosen, always light-complexioned Ethiopian Airlines stewardesses speaking loudly about black African passengers on the plane as "Those things".
These being so even after 17 years of so-called "socialist internationalism" under Col. Mengistu it looks like the new regime under Meles Zenawi has some hard educating of its peoples to do. Especially so when even Amahara commoners cook ladies, Netsanet. One day she really asked me :
“Why do you always invite those blacks?”


Now, you must know that ‘those blacks’ were indeed two very good friends: one was ambassadore Segun Olusola, Nigeria’s ambassador to Ethiopia and the OAU, a good friend since the early sixties. And the other was Luis d’Almeida, the Angolan ambassador, and also a friend, since the days when we both worked in the Africa Service of Radio Deutsche Welle in Cologne, Germany.
And by the way. That Lady Netsanet was almost as black as the two ‘Execellencies’!!!


http://www.gerd-meuer-afrika.de/pages/en/stories/africa/everyday-racism-in-ethiopia.php

Racism in Ethiopia has traditionally been directed at the country's Nilotic ethnic minorities, as well as other individuals with similarly pronounced "Negroid" physical features. Collectively, these groups are locally known as Shanqella or barya, derogatory terms originally denoting slave descent, irrespective of the individual's family history.[23][24]

Historically, the Shanqella constituted most of the slave labour in the ruling local Afro-Asiatic societies.[25] The Abyssinians (Habesha highlanders) were also noted as having actively hunted the Shanqella during the 19th century.[26] Following the abolition of the slave trade in the 1940s, the freed Shanqella and barya were typically employed as unskilled labour.[25] Racial discrimination against the barya or Shanqella communities in Ethiopia still exists, affecting access to political and social opportunities and resources.[23]

Traditionally, racism against perceived barya transcended class and remained in effect regardless of social position or parentage. As a result, former President of Ethiopia Mengistu Haile Mariam was virtually absent from the country's controlled press in the first few weeks of his seizure of power. He also consciously avoided making public appearances, here too on the belief that his "Negroid" appearance would not sit well with the country's deposed political elite, particularly the Amhara.[27] By contrast, Mengistu's rise to prominence was hailed by the southern Shanqella groups as a personal victory, with one of their own having made good.[24]

Although other populations in Ethiopia have faced varying degrees of discrimination, little of that adversity has by contrast been on account of racial differences. It is instead more typically rooted in disparities in class and competition for economic status. The often socio-economically disadvantaged Oromo and Gurage are thus not considered by the highlander groups as being racially barya, owing to their similar physical features and common Afro-Asiatic ancestry.[25]

In terms of traditional perceptions, the Shanqella likewise racially contrast themselves from the Afro-Asiatic populations. The Anywaa (Anuak) Nilotes of southern Ethiopia consequently regard the Amhara, Oromo, Tigray and other Afro-Asiatic groups collectively as gaala in contradistinction to themselves.[28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa

Slavery was officially abolished in Ethiopia only in 1942! It was even used by the Italians as a justification for their invasion in 1935. Unfortunately, the vestiges of the ugly legacy of slavery are still with us today. This legacy is primarily manifested in the form of prejudice towards our compatriots who come from the peripheral regions in the southern and western parts of the country. Ethiopians, as a people, should be ashamed for allowing this kind of racism to continue unabated in the dawn of the 21st century.

By the way, what is racism? When we think of racism, we mostly think of the institutionalized form of racism that we see in the West which is directed mostly towards people of African descent. In reality, however, racism is a phenomenon that exists anywhere between groups of people when one discriminates against the other based on any inborn physical attributes and considers their group to be superior. [b]Ethiopian racism is based on the tone of skin color and physical traits such as facial features and hair texture. [/b]For the purpose of this article, racism is discriminating against or denigrating a fellow Ethiopian or human being based on skin color and/or physical characteristics.

Mind you, though racism in Ethiopia has its roots in our ethnic differences, it should not be confused with discrimination based on ethnic affiliation or economic status. This is true because in Ethiopia ethnic slurs are different from racial slurs, and no matter what one’s economic status is, he/she might not be free from racial abuses. Some ethnic groups might be bombarded with bone piercing ethnic slurs, but not necessarily with racial slurs, whereas some other ethnic groups, especially from western and southern Ethiopia, face both ethnic and racial abuses. Even today, social contacts (for example, marriage) with Ethiopians of Nilotic origin are considered a taboo. We all know that any Ethiopian whose physical characteristics has resemblance to Nilotic or Bantu people faces daily verbal abuses and is showered with ugly and discriminatory nick names such as baria, mesheto, wefcho-lash, etc…

The other strange face of Ethiopian racism is that it is not limited to within Ethiopia or between Ethiopians. When we travel abroad, our racist attitude travels with us. Here in the United States, Ethiopians display splendid respect for white Americans, but do not accord the same respect to black Americans. Some of us even use the derisive Amharic word baria to refer to darker-skinned black Americans. In whatever foreign country we are, when we see a black person with straight nose, large eyes, and zoma hair, we tend to say “he/she looks like an Ethiopian”, knowing that the person is not an Ethiopian. On the other hand, our heart does not accept a darker skin, a flat nose or a kinky hair person as an Ethiopian. Basically, in Ethiopia or outside Ethiopia, we Ethiopians have certain physical characteristics and features that we ascribe for ourselves, and anyone outside that artificial provenance is subject for abuse or ridicule.


http://www.enset.org/2009/02/racism-in-ethiopia.html

axum:



What is your point. Litle kids are not born racist. Its something they learn. The fact your posting this shows how desperate you are took seek acceptance.

Desperate of what acceptance? Sorry friend, but I have no insecurities unlike you. I only decided to create this thread, because it against your reality. And as I said it wasn't just kids.


As for the rest of your post it doesn't answer my question.

For several years, I’d passed the restaurant while driving through that side of town. It looked like an interesting spot; I said I’d stick my head in there one day.


But when that day finally came, it reminded me of the scene in the movie “48 Hours,” where Eddie Murphy ventures into a bar that happens to be a white country & western joint. My arrival was not nearly as spectacular, but I did elicit my share of curious glances.
A bartender can set the mood for a patron, and the man pouring my drink was pleasant. However, our good-natured chat about the weather and the day’s headlines wasn’t enough to take the chill off this room. I casually looked around the place and couldn’t find one face that appeared to hold much love for a newcomer.


Taking another sip of my beer, I told myself that maybe it was just me. What did I expect, a welcoming committee? I reminded myself that many social establishments often react a little coolly to non-regulars. Maybe what I was feeling didn’t have a damned thing to do with anything but familiarity.


The restaurant was more than half full, but I had the tiny bar all to myself, so I was glad that two men and a woman in the mood for libations joined me. For all the acknowledgment made, though, I might as well have been invisible. When another man moseyed in and took a seat at the end of the bar, he somehow ended up in the trio’s jovial conversation. So they weren’t blind or anti-social, after all. I deduced that it had to be my cologne.
Or, just maybe, it really WAS me. And maybe I really DIDN’T come in here for just a drink and cordial camaraderie. Maybe, deep, deep down inside, I’d come in here to make some kind of point. I certainly was open to conceding as much to myself.


And so, with very little chance of my self-examination being interrupted, I sat there and gave it all serious, honest consideration – and confirmed that I truly did have honorable intentions. I figured I’d come in here, have a drink, dig the atmosphere and thus add it to my list of places to go. For reasons that evaded me, it wasn’t working out that way.


I couldn’t ignore the irony, of course – the very notion that hundreds of years later, there’d be the issue of us getting along. For many years, I’ve heard all the reasons. Inevitably mentioned are issues of culture and the idea that any problems among us are, ultimately, the residual affect of slavery in America. Did that sinister deed, besides everything else, somehow drive a wedge between brothers under God’s sun, a division that, after all these years, still remains?


And who says that we, in particular, must get along, anyway?
But we SHOULD … shouldn’t we?
Once again alone at the bar, I was pondering it all when the bartender spoke.
“My friend, may I ask you a question?”
“Sure.”
“Why did you come here tonight?”
I explained that I’d never been here before and I thought it adventurous to try something new.
“Just a drink? Or did you also hope to meet some of our women?”
It all sounds so offensive now, but you had to be there. His words came sincerely – out of curiosity more than anything else and, I suppose, concern. I thought about his question.


Maybe, I replied, I ventured in here hoping, perhaps, to discover some measure of kinship. Or, as corny as it might sound, just a little bit of myself.
“But it’s Friday night, my friend,” he said.

“There are many other places in this city for you to be. Would you not want to be with … your own kind?”

I know – it all could have made for some compelling banter. However, after seeking conversation over the course of two beers, all I wanted to do now was leave. I tried to pay my tab, but the bartender simply smiled.
“It is on the house, my friend,” he said.

Translation: Just leave, my friend. Please.
As a Black man born and raised in America, I’ve dealt with prejudice, racism and mistrust in many configurations. Sometimes it is subtle and other times not so subtle, and you can encounter it anywhere, from anybody. Still, it never occurred to me that I’d face any of those things on a Friday night in an Ethiopian restaurant.
From the tiny bar I gathered up my pride and headed out in search of “my own kind” – and hoped that I’d know them when I saw them.
- See more at: http://www.tadias.com/12/12/2007/are-ethiopians-racist/#sthash.ldFTdJbg.dpuf

- See more at: http://www.tadias.com/12/12/2007/are-ethiopians-racist/#sthash.ldFTdJbg.dpuf

Mods you can lock thread now.

@Fulaman198

I believe it served its purpose.

KidStranglehold:

Desperate of what acceptance? Sorry friend, but I have no insecurities unlike you. I only decided to create this thread, because it against your reality. And as I said it wasn't just kids.


As for the rest of your post it doesn't answer my question.

I posted several respectable articles on racism in Ethiopia. I hope that suffices. But knowing the desperate Bantu who seeks acceptance that you are, you will try and brush all those articles under the rug.

KidStranglehold:
Mods you can lock thread now.

@Fulaman198

I believe it served its purpose.

Fulaman198 Do not lock this thread. He asked a question is upset now that he got the answer he feared. This thread and debate must continue. I have more videos and articles.

axum:


I posted several respectable articles on racism in Ethiopia. I hope that suffices. But knowing the desperate Bantu who seeks acceptance that you are, you will try and brush all those articles under the rug.

Can you elaborate what I am desperate about? Why do I need to seek acceptance when I already have my own culture?

axum:



Fulaman198 Do not lock this thread. He asked a question is upset now that he got the answer he feared. This thread and debate must continue. I have more videos and articles.

It served its purpose. You couldn't address my question. Spamming of articles is not addressing anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odhBwKiHT4c

KidStranglehold:



It served its purpose. You couldn't address my question. Spamming of articles is not addressing anything.

It has addressed your question which you run from. Which is your lying to yourself by talking about two kids and not the entire society and people in power who hate and whose forefathers enslaved Bantus/Nilotics all the way till 1942

KidStranglehold:


Can you elaborate what I am desperate about? Why do I need to seek acceptance when I already have my own culture?

You seek acceptance by finding small glimmers of hope which are lies like posting two Ethiopian kids with your suppose sister. When you blindly ignore the entire history of Ethiopia, the slavery, and even articles by black people in power in the African Union who were facing discrimination.

axum:



It has addressed your question which you run from. Which is your lying to yourself by talking about two kids and not the entire society and people in power who hate and whose forefathers enslaved Bantus/Nilotics all the way till 1942

My question was, "My older sister is currently in Ethiopia helping out with an orphanage. And those "Cushite looking" kids are very grateful that she came. Matter fact she said she's having a good time and the natives are treating her nice. She's in the ACTUAL country of Ethiopia(I even have pics as proof) and yet the people don't merely see her as some "Bantu Negroid" as you would put it.

So I ask why is that?"

Why wasn't she not experiencing racism?

Again I'm confused.

axum:



You seek acceptance by finding small glimmers of hope which are lies like posting two Ethiopian kids with your suppose sister. When you blindly ignore the entire history of Ethiopia, the slavery, and even articles by black people in power in the African Union who were facing discrimination.

What does history have to do with whats shes experiencing right now?

Anyways I'm done. Have your fun Axum.

KidStranglehold:


My question was, "My older sister is currently in Ethiopia helping out with an orphanage. And those "Cushite looking" kids are very grateful that she came. Matter fact she said she's having a good time and the natives are treating her nice. She's in the ACTUAL country of Ethiopia(I even have pics as proof) and yet the people don't merely see her as some "Bantu Negroid" as you would put it.

So I ask why is that?"

Why wasn't she not experiencing racism?

Again I'm confused.

because you fool, those are kids, and their orphans who were not taught what their parents were taught. Racism is learned.

The fact that you have to use orphan kids, to show that their is no racism in Ethiopia, when it's every where is a pathetic excuse for you to make yourself go to sleep at night.


It's like me going to Germany in the 1930's and saying their is no racism because two kids that are orphans are not calling me names.

KidStranglehold:
Anyways I'm done. Have your fun Axum.

Your a desperate pathetic loser for even thinking about opening this thread, it only shows your low self esteem and your desperate need to seek acceptance from a people who you know are truly better than you. Why else would you use random orphans who have no power and information to justify that Bantus are treated fairly. You should ask the Bantus/Nilotic and the Negro American visitors how they are treated, which is all the articles I posted.


Now I see how you want this thread closed. You look so desperate its not funny. You even took down the kids pictures. Pathetic.

Again THEIR NOT orphans. This before she went to the orphanage. But I'm done. I just thought I would shatter your reality real quick.

axum:



because you fool, those are kids, and their orphans who were not taught what their parents were taught. Racism is learned.

The fact that you have to use orphan kids, to show that their is no racism in Ethiopia, when it's every where is a pathetic excuse for you to make yourself go to sleep at night.


It's like me going to Germany in the 1930's and saying their is no racism because two kids that are orphans are not calling me names.

KidStranglehold:
Again THEIR NOT orphans. This before she went to the orphanage. But I'm done. I just thought I would shatter your reality real quick.

Like I said their kids. No kid is born racist. Why is she afraid to talk to the adults. How can she escape racism, when the leaders of African Countries are afraid of the racism and transfer out of the AU headquarters because of racism.

FULAMAN, post this on front page. I want to show how low self esteem Bantus have and how lower they can go when faced with facts.

Yet I'm not on a site 24/7 dedicated to a people I think inferior of.

Strange.

axum:



Your a desperate pathetic loser for even thinking about opening this thread, it only shows your low self esteem and your desperate need to seek acceptance from a people who you know are truly better than you. Why else would you use random orphans who have no power and information to justify that Bantus are treated fairly. You should ask the Bantus/Nilotic and the Negro American visitors how they are treated, which is all the articles I posted.


Now I see how you want this thread closed. You look so desperate its not funny. You even took down the kids pictures. Pathetic.

KidStranglehold:
Yet I'm not on a site 24/7 dedicated to a people I think inferior of.

Strange.

Yet you can't blame me for answering your pathetic threads in which you seek to curry favor for people who see you as subhuman

The Ethiopia chick on Big Brother Africa some years back who jumped into bed with this "Bantu" Sierra Leonean after just 3 days in the Big Brother house...was she a child who didn't understand racism, too? :-D

Whilst I completely abhor racism and the nonsense associated with it, people need to not allow themselves to be victims of racism by portraying themselves as weak.

If people appear strong and superior in front of racists, then racists can't do a thing to them. Passive nature and voice doesn't get you anywhere in a world where the mean-spirited and evil people are celebrated whilst the kind-hearted and kind people are belittled and made to feel like crap.

What I'm saying is that one should never allow a bigot to have their way. One must never bow down or before bigots like GEJ has been doing.

In a way by creating this thread, you have made Axum feel more important than he really is. Who cares about what he thinks or how he feels. He doesn't own you, he doesn't cloth or feed you. He's just a troll with no power, and an angry one at that.