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Re: Grace Without Works Is Dead! by trustman: 10:27am On Jan 23, 2015 |
[size=5pt] efficiencie:[/size] Let me ask a question: What did Lazarus 'ACT UPON' before he was raised to life? 1 Like |
Re: Grace Without Works Is Dead! by efficiencie(m): 12:45pm On Jan 23, 2015 |
trustman: Lazarus was the object of Faith and not the Subject... Lazarus wasn't the ACTIVATOR of Faith, Jesus was...and to whom the ACT of FAITH is credited GRACE is given. Even Jesus ACTED! ...he cried with a loud voice... and didn't just sit down and look and expect the miracle to happen without any ACTION at all! |
Re: Grace Without Works Is Dead! by trustman: 1:34pm On Jan 23, 2015 |
efficiencie: Unless your definition of the word 'faith' is different from what the Bible gives us then your statements are out of line with scripture. One biblical definition of 'faith' is trust/confidence. So when you say: "Lazarus was the object of Faith and not the Subject..." my question is 'how?' When you say also that: "Even Jesus ACTED! ...he cried with a loud voice... and didn't just sit down and look and expect the miracle to happen without any ACTION at all!" are you saying that ANY ACTION (which perhaps to you amounts to work) makes 'faith' effective; no matter what that action is - shouting, clapping, jumping, etc. ? Lastly, for now, is God's grace based on his integrity or man's? |
Re: Grace Without Works Is Dead! by efficiencie(m): 5:35pm On Jan 23, 2015 |
trustman: My bro, i laugh seriously @ your funny stance Jesus said if you faith is as lil as a mustard seed you'll speak to the mountains to be removed and be cast into the sea and it'll be so. The speaker is the ACTIVATOR of FAITH, while the mountain is the OBJECT of FAITH! This analogy answers your first question! Uzza an Israelite WORKED and got a DAMNING CONSEQUENCE while Obededom of Gath, a Philistine, WORKED and got ENOUGH BENEVOLENCE FROM GOD TO MAKE KING DAVID JEALOUS There are works and there are WORKS...no work based on logic and empirics will ACTIVATE faith but works based on the Inspiration of the HolyGhost ACTIVATE faith and by faith DRAW grace. This answers your second question! On your third question: the giver of a gift is the person whose name and integrity is on the line! ...but no matter how sincere the giver is, if the receiver folds his arms and walks out on the giver he'll get nothing no matter how sincere, benevolent and loving the giver is |
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