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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:15am On Jan 16, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:



When patterns get juxtaposed with numbers, you are surely getting into the realms of science.

War is not an art- it is the science of producing larger guns and acquiring large numbers of soldiers to crush the enemy.



At this point, we are just pulling each other's legs grin grin
Larger guns are mere instruments use in fighting... War is Art! It involves strategies and care planing. You ever heard or read the book, The Art Of War by Sun Tzu?.

Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by blackjack21(m): 10:16am On Jan 16, 2015
standd:



Hahacheesy I don't need a laptop.. ink and paper will do tongue

So ink and paper nor be science. grin

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by MrPresident1: 10:18am On Jan 16, 2015
standd:



Gimme the last four digits on your Credit card and your pin first. I will write the poem, sharply! tongue

Serious?
Just that? Simple four digits and my pin?
Simple thing.
But you promise I will get my poem, right? kiss
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 10:21am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:


Firstly: You call that living? Living like robots instead of human beings? Am astound someone like you would even refer living like robot. And just how did the people in 'Equilibrium' fared! I'll have you know something: without art, we'll be devoid of our emotions thus revealing the beast in us. Why do you think during the Stone Age all what men did was fighting War and raping and looting?.

Secondly: I really don't believe science has made our life longer, what is the life expectancy of an average man? Talkless of a Nigerian? If science was all that human would life forever. Even with science, the world population still grow everyday and people still die everyday. The internet doesn't quick cut!. Even modern medicine can't give longevity!. Our forefathers live more years on this Earth than us, and they didn't have science.

I believe you made it clear from all what you said above that you'll prefer life in the Matrix than life in the real world. If you say "science take the cake" its your opinion" for me I refer all! No one is more important than the other. Anyway who am I to mess with your opinion?.


How do you know you are not some form of advanced nano-machine yourself? The air you breath is what keeps you living, once it's cut-off, your physical body dies! What makes you think your thoughts whether positive or negative are not influenced by advanced forces beyond your understanding? To me, I feel humans are more like biological machines with free will grin

Isaiah 46:10-11

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Did I hear you say "our forefathers had no science"? Science is ancient and by far older than poetry; the science of mathematics, agriculture, fire, medicine etc are by far more ancient than poetry!

War is primarily a product of human nature...War and sorrow will continue as long as unrighteousness rules the world we live in! In fact violence, killings, rapes and all forms of immoralities are by far worst in today's world than in ancient times!
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:22am On Jan 16, 2015
Blakjewelry:
Now I see were the problems of Nigeria lies. Following entertainment and living backwards while many nations are advancing using science and technology
You forget that the advance nations you speak of also have entertainment?.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:23am On Jan 16, 2015
standd:


undecided Give me a scroll then or even a slab of stone. My pen is swifter than Russia's fastest missile.


tis impressive m'lady but we liveth in the twenty first century. Thou doth have excellent manuscription but it behooveth me to state that parchment and stone are archaic
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:24am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
Larger guns are mere instruments use in fighting... War is Art! It involves strategies and care planing. You ever heard or read the book, The Art Of War by Sun Tzu?.

It is a popular book. I havent read it..... sad
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 10:24am On Jan 16, 2015
laykorn:
Yesterday, I heard someone, a friend say in a possible attempt to rebuke poetry and poets, that she was a scientist and that through science only, the world could be cured of it's problems. Ishilove's reply to the friend reminded me of a long article I had once written in a reply to someone who had asked me what importance poetry had in our lives. Although, unfortunately, the asker never did see my reply to his question, I feel a reason to post my long reply here, for those who also might feel that there is no need for poetry in this modern world, and all we need are scientists. Enjoy.


Ayamlaykorn

Poetry is important and vital..
but Science is more important ...
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:26am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
You forget that the advance nations you speak of also have entertainment?.


Yes, but entertainment with technology and science.

That is why Nollywood cant produce a film like the matrix.

Poetry won't give you the coding/programming to do the CGI for the over-the-top action scenes
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:32am On Jan 16, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:



Yes, but entertainment with technology and science.

That is why Nollywood cant produce a film like the matrix.

Poetry won't give you the coding/programming to do the CGI for the over-the-top action scenes
Why you come dey yab Nollywood na! Where's your sense of patriotism eh?. grin cheesy
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:37am On Jan 16, 2015
doubleDx:



How do you know you are not some form of advanced nano-machine yourself? The air you breath is what keeps you living, once it's cut-off, your physical body dies! What makes you think your thoughts whether positive or negative are not influenced by advanced forces beyond your understanding? To me, I feel humans are more like biological machines with free will grin

Isaiah 46:10-11

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Did I hear you say "our forefathers had no science"? Science is ancient and by far older than poetry; the science of mathematics, agriculture, fire, medicine etc are by far more ancient than poetry!

War is primarily a product of human nature...War and sorrow will continue as long as unrighteousness rules the world we live in! In fact violence, killings, rapes and all forms of immoralities are by far worst in today's world than in ancient times!
I know for a fact that "I am a machine". I am techno/organic, gifted with the very thing other living things lack: 'Emotion'.

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:38am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
Why you come dey yab Nollywood na! Where's your sense of patriotism eh?. grin cheesy

My patriotism died after GEJ removed fuel subsidy- the one thing that Nigeria really gives its citizens. It resurrected sometime after but died again when the Chibok girls werent returned.

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:39am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
I know for a fact that "I am a machine". I am techno/organic, gifted with the very thing other living things lack: 'Emotion'.

Animals have emotion.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 10:42am On Jan 16, 2015
standd:


O'boy cheesy
lipsrsealed i pray that the igbo war lords dont catch me
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:42am On Jan 16, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:


Animals have emotion.
Are human beings not animals?. Emotion is encompassing, that's what I meant.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 10:42am On Jan 16, 2015
Brandnew2:
Now you want to start an inter tribal war. grin

I pray chino doesnt catch me.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
I know for a fact that "I am a machine". I am techno/organic, gifted with the very thing other living things lack: 'Emotion'.

Agreed! Science and poetry complement each other; none is useless or less important! I guess that's what makes us humans...

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Blakjewelry(m): 10:47am On Jan 16, 2015
joseph1832:
You forget that the advance nations you speak of also have entertainment?.
Yeah their is a balance. And entertainment is just for the money, the fame and for relaxation, but science is part of us. Infact every man on the surface of this earth is scientist, do you know why? Because man is very curious being. He always want to know more, always searching for that answer and art and religion offer offer that temporal relieve like a drug
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by joseph1832(m): 10:48am On Jan 16, 2015
doubleDx:


Agreed! Science and poetry complement each other; none is useless or less important! I guess that what makes us humans...
El Magnefico
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 11:04am On Jan 16, 2015
chimoz:

lipsrsealed i pray that the igbo war lords dont catch me

They know the truth.

AllNaijaBlogger:



tis impressive m'lady but we liveth in the twenty first century. Thou doth have excellent manuscription but it behooveth me to state that parchment and stone are archaic

cheesy cheesy

I give up. I hereby confess that I am a Physicist who writes poetry with a passion embarassed

CC: Scrypt

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 11:05am On Jan 16, 2015
doubleDx:


Agreed! Science and poetry complement each other; none is useless or less important! I guess that what makes us humans...

1000 likes for you and a kiss

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Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 16, 2015
MrPresident1:


Serious?
Just that? Simple four digits and my pin?
Simple thing.
But you promise I will get my poem, right? kiss

cheesy grin
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by MightyFortress: 11:40am On Jan 16, 2015
texanomaly:
The Mother

“When your mother has grown older,
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks -

Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.

And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.

And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more.”

Adolf Hitler, 1923
Beautiful piece. Reminds me of the song '' Oh Mama'' by Jodie.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by MrPresident1: 11:42am On Jan 16, 2015
standd:


cheesy grin

Oya now, serenade me nawww cool kiss
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 12:04pm On Jan 16, 2015
herald9:



OK sir...I don't wanna argue further before my poetry teacher Laykorn vex expel me from schoolsad
No, I want you to go on. I want to understand your reason.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Pdizzle(m): 12:07pm On Jan 16, 2015
I'm a poet myself, laykorn you underrated science.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jan 16, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:



Spoken like a true poet.

Great diction, artistic expressions, verbose but at the end, a meaningless string of words that mean nothing wink


Has poetry solved any major issue? That is what you were addressing, please finish it with a logical argument
A logical argument, my friend? To be frank with you, I don't think you will understand a logical argument if this is how you see one that isn't.

Let me help you. The immaterial or unseen things, thoughts, emotions rule the material world. Poetry addresses the immaterial.

Tell me how it doesn't.
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 12:14pm On Jan 16, 2015
Reyginus:
A logical argument, my friend? To be frank with you, I don't think you will understand a logical argument if this is how you see one that isn't.

Let me help you. The immaterial or unseen things, thoughts, emotions rule the material world. Poetry addresses the immaterial.

Tell me how it doesn't.


Your argument is illogical. This world is a material world. Both science and religion acknowledge that. Your thoughts and emotions are very material as they depend on the environment, hormones and your brain.

You cant just make up a premise and throw it in an argument. Who told you that the immaterial rules the material?
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 12:19pm On Jan 16, 2015
Lordmykel:
When the pen,ink and paper you use in writing poems were created by science. Shm for you @ ayamlaykom.

Imagine, someone is saying "why poetry is better than your life". Lolz cry all this art students on Nairaland sef.

Imagine... this is a high level of rubbish, i couldnt read all this. grin

chai, here posting sh't without knowing that planet earth has only 4.5 billion years to live. Chai poets will say its a lie, see their block heads tongue
Lol. Arts students
I'm a student engineer tongue
Ayamlaykorn
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jan 16, 2015
MrPresident1:


Oya now, serenade me nawww cool kiss


$1000 per poem. I'm good at what I do tongue
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by MrPresident1: 12:23pm On Jan 16, 2015
standd:



$1000 per poem. I'm good at what I do tongue

You promised
debts of honour
Most honourable amongst men
is the one who keeps promises
you promised.
kiss
Re: Opinion: Why Poetry Is Important, And Could Be More Important Than Science by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jan 16, 2015
MrPresident1:


You promised
debts of honour
Most honourable amongst men
is the one who keeps promises
you promised.
kiss


I made that promise with money at the back of my mind embarassed
I'm sorry I must be mistaken ... Ain't you MrPresident as in Bros. Jona himself.
If you are not, stop talking to me undecided

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