LordReed:


You are the dumb one here because I have not mentioned God, simply wanted to point out the deficiency in your first post. Your prejudice stands revealed.

davien:
Actually all your posts have been to propose the universe having an outside,on a topic solely for addressing how an outside isn't feasible(and so things like a "god" couldn't be there because there's no outside)...so prejudice I am not, nice try.
so again....it's either you really lack comprehension skills or just trolling..

adexsimply:
How can something "exist" yet "not exist" in space-time ?
Let's assume the "Holy Bible" did not survive time, then the question to ask is; what makes anyone say god is outside of space and time? What is the evidence for such assertions?

malvisguy212:
if God consists of matter, I would have taking you serious,but bible say God is a spirit.

Hiswordxray:

Well here is My own brotherly advice:
You are missing out. There is a much more easy way of getting heal than taking drugs any going to hospital. It's a simple prayer of faith and you are missing out on this because you refused to believe in God.

LordReed:


You claim to address how an outside isn't feasible but a discussion on how this is limited by observation has you accusing me of illogic, how are you not prejudiced? Did I for once mention God? You are so prejudiced it blinds you and makes just as dogmatic, free your mind.

adexsimply:
How can something "exist" yet "not exist" in space-time ?
Let's assume the "Holy Bible" did not survive time, then the question to ask is; what makes anyone say god is outside of space and time? What is the evidence for such assertions?

davien:
Apart from breaking physics in two it also violates logic(law of non-contradiction)

undercat:


You know that if God is so willing to see healthy people it is a bit lazy on his part to let them be sick in the first place. Do you really believe that God is willing to heal every sick person?

davien:
And I will still tell you that arguing for an "outside" on a topic about why "supernatural" things(or anything) cannot be there(because there isn't an outside) would be to argue in support of that "supernatural" thing...
It's like in a debate of how the earth couldn't be 6,000 years, you start by supporting points that it is,so what do you expect to be replied about?....
Again, it's either you have no clue of this or you're trolling...

LordReed:


If telling you I have no wish to argue the existence of God with you still leaves you arguing that same thing then you are really blind.

Bidam:
Lol. I guess the dude is following a rehearsed script. I do wonder where you talked about God in your post? I don't think he comprehends your post really.Good job sir!

LordReed:


If telling you I have no wish to argue the existence of God with you still leaves you arguing that same thing then you are really blind.

LordReed:


I tire o!

How's your Sunday going?

davien:
You and your cohorts don't seem to get it do you?
The claim of a "god" is tied to another claim that space and time has an "outside"..so I addressed why an outside is illogical and not feasible and then went on to say that nothing can be said to inhabit a non-existent place...
It would be like asking what lives on the beginning of a sphere.

Note: A sphere has no beginning or end..

LordReed:


You are really steeped in this your prejudice o. Cohorts? LoL.

An outside is not illogical, it is unknown or at best not within the ambits of observed phenomenon. Scientists postulate that the universe probably has no outside because of what they have observed but they have only observed light that has so far been visible. If truly the you universe is 15billion years old then the light from the farthest reaches of space will not be reaching us anytime soon so they cannot be certain about how exactly the universe looks like. You cannot be certain about the nature of the universe so to say the universe is this or that without any caveats is the weakness I saw in your op.

LordReed:


Yes only atheist can comprehend the workings of the universe. /s

Stop saying space expands into it itself, it is impossible. It is expanding, simple.

Edit: scientists simply don't know what is beyond the universe because the "edge" of the universe cannot be observed.

Hiswordxray:

If I have any sickness want so ever I would apply the new testament method i.e I would heal it in the name of Jesus. I haven't taken any drug for a long time (since when I discovered I could heal myself with the name of Jesus).
The world and science is backward but instead of you people to try to meet up, you boast of your ignorance.

So I don't need the world's cure because God's grace is sufficient for me. In Christ I have a drug that can cure all sickness.

malvisguy212:
if God consists of matter, I would have taking you serious,but bible say God is a spirit.

LordReed:


You are really steeped in this your prejudice o. Cohorts? LoL.

An outside is not illogical, it is unknown or at best not within the ambits of observed phenomenon. Scientists postulate that the universe probably has no outside because of what they have observed but they have only observed light that has so far been visible. If truly the universe is 15billion years old then the light from the farthest reaches of space will not be reaching us anytime soon so they cannot be certain about how exactly the universe looks like. You cannot be certain about the nature of the universe so to say the universe is this or that without any caveats is the weakness I saw in your op.

davien:
Again this is why one doesn't speak before comprehending something..

Why I said its illogical and not feasible is because if the universe had an "outside",as you erroneously think...then the universe would be either an open or closed universe...of which are variably different than the universe we live in..

If the universe were closed(or if we live in a closed universe) we'd actually be able to see so far that we'd see the back of our heads..

If the universe were an open one, we'd find that a triangle sums up to more we know it to...

And furthermore,the measurement of the cosmic microwave background matches the data that we live in a flat universe that has no edge, no defining start or end and no outside...

And the only thing regarded to as an "outside" of the observable universe is the hubble sphere,which is also an expanding diameter of space having no "edge" whatsoever....

Note: Saying it has an edge is implying that it isn't a 3d-sphere but a 2-d circle of which for the reasons mentioned above is not the case

macof:

Yet he has hands and feet?
That's material if you ask me

davien:
This claim is made by perhaps virtually every theist that wants to offer apologetics to the question of where "god" is.

My issue with this is that,besides the fact that the doctrines involved makes no such claim(or atleast claims "god" coming from "the clouds" ).

There is virtually no way to even state whether space and time has an outside,because it(space and time) encompasses all of existence..It would be the same as claiming space has an edge.
So if space-time encompasses all of existence(as far as we can tell),then what does the theist mean by claiming "god" lies outside existence as though it were known that existence contains an "outside"..

If you would like to offer your views to this,please do.

macof:


And what scientist has told you the universe has an edge to be observed?
Is the universe a bootle-like space with an opening?

malvisguy212:
a spirit don't have hand and feet? We are created with the image of God, God has hand and feet before human.

timonski:
from from post, it seems your god exists in another timeline-there the time works differently from our time. That would mean your god is still bound by the space-time continuum of that timeline.
This would lead to an infinite regression of timelines and their creators

davien:
This is why one needs to comprehend something before replying....why we say the universe is flat is because any given line drawn from points(a,b, and c) in space stay parallel(plus the mathematical derived geometry from the nature of the cosmic microwave background)
And why I said space expands into itself is because it's in a 4-dimensional plane and hence just expands(carrying everything along with it)......although my answer is just how I understand it....the scholarly answer is that your question does not apply to 4-dimensional expanding space..

Joshthefirst:
This is more nonsense than I can describe. How you got this conclusion from his post beats me. It clearly states there that God does not exist in any timeline. He was acting before time. He created it. Simple.

LucemFerre:


Can you fu<|<ing believe this?

malvisguy212:
a spirit don't have hand and feet? We are created with the image of God, God has hand and feet before human.