FOLYKAZE:


Stop dodging when you are already put into the corner. I am not proving your point. I have proved that man is an object of worship which makes him a deity. This you disgareed to.

Atheist worship something or someone. Inasmuch worship is involve, the act is directed to deities. That is going by the definition of worship.

Atheism is only noises. . . . .





Quit this crap. You have been nailed.

DProDG:

Yes, but influential people(gods) are never worshiped, eg Karl Marx. However people that are considered deities, are(most often than not), eg Kim Jong Un.

Did you notice that none of the definitions have anything to do with 'an influential person' as you described previously? Rather, they refer to divinity. Don't get hooked in your own word games.

FOLYKAZE:

You can simply google imperial cult, celebrity worship, ancestor worship and hero worship. To put this on rest too, worship is been defined on wiki as an act of religious devotion usually directed towards a deity.

- Imperial cult= ...This is a religiois devotion usually directed toward a deity (kings, empetior and leaders)

- celebrity worship= an act of religious devotion usually dirrected toward a deity (celebs).

- ancestors worship= an act of religious devotion usually directed toward a deity (ancestors).

Hero worship = an act of religious devotion usually directed toward a deity (heroes or influencial person).

Deity has been proven to be learders, celeb, ancestors and human.

Human worship anything. Atheists worship something too. Such a devotion is directed to a deity; that thing which is worship.

Are you in postion to tell them what to believe a deity is?

The Iroko tree in my yard is a deity, it is been worship by people. The snake is worship and perceive as deity in many culture. This is their belief and conviction.

oh really?
Deity is
1. a god or goddess (in a polytheistic religion).

While god is

3. an adored, admired, or influential person.

This is very simple for you to find.

1. Worship is worship. I guess you think it all about bowing down in the temple which is half correct.

2. People (of influence) (that are considered deities) are worship. You can quickly google what imperial cult is. These people are seen as DEITY.

Pr0ton:
We are in the era where bonafide boneheads become ubiquitous... such as this one




I can see your illetracy is getting dangerously high. What does deity mean to you? god/goddess. And how is man a god in the religious(supernatural) sense?




Of course we worship. But then worship is ambiguous. Ours is carnal. Yours is spiritual See the difference?



Nah. You shut your mouth. You are an academic embarrassment. People I call [size=20]ODE[/size]

Go and learn.

DProDG:
This is a quote from my previous comment...


This is from yours...


Do you even know what you're arguing against?

An 'atheist' that worships a deity is not an atheist. That should be obvious.

FOLYKAZE:

Note pls, do you give me definition that wont cover whole religion system.

Actuall Sam Harris practise buddhism and he is still an atheist.
And you gon tell me atheism is not a religion?

FOLYKAZE:


You dont get it.

Do you agree human is a deity and even some religion acknowledge this?

FOLYKAZE:

Do you understand that worship is acknowledging worth of something?

FOLYKAZE:

Do you know worship by definition is said toward a deity (possibly a man)?

FOLYKAZE:

Are atheists not acknowledging worth of influencial person?

FOLYKAZE:

If yes, that is atheist worship deities.

FOLYKAZE:


You dont get it.

-Do you agree human is a deity and even some religion acknowledge this?

-Do you understand that worship is acknowledging worth of something?

-Do you know worship by definition is said toward a deity (possibly a man)?

-Are atheists not acknowledging worth of influencial person?


-If yes, that is atheist worship deities.

Pr0ton:
We are in the era where bonafide boneheads become ubiquitous... such as this one

Pr0ton:
I can see your illetracy is getting dangerously high. What does deity mean to you? god/goddess. And how is man a god in the religious(supernatural) sense?

Pr0ton:
Of course we worship. But then worship is ambiguous. Ours is carnal. Yours is spiritual See the difference?

Pr0ton:
Nah. You shut your mouth. You are an academic embarrassment. People I call [size=20]ODE[/size]

Go and learn.

johnydon22:
Their are no deities, that is the basic stance of atheism... be it a mythical deity, a tree, snake etc... Atheists dont believe in any diety..

johnydon22:
Am guessing if you are a buhari or goodluck fan, yoy worship them huh?

johnydon22:
Like i said earlier, i worship my parents.. it doenst make them deities..
definition of deities:
noun (plural deities)
mythology religion A preternatural or supernatural human or non-human being or entity, or an object that possesses miraculous or supernatural attributes, powers or superpowers (e.g. a god or goddess).
mythology religion The divine character of a divinity.
mythology religion A being, entity or object revered as a god or goddess.

johnydon22:
Catholics worship pope, if you are wizkid fan you worship wizkid, if you revere 2face then you worship two face.. Taking such things as acknowledging worth of something or a person to mean worship is a big fallacy and such a big hole in your argument cus you too will then said to be polytheistic.

johnydon22:
Can you point out these dieties?

nawa oooo

FOLYKAZE:


I understand your insults but I will man up and ignore this.

FOLYKAZE:

Deity is God according to the dictionary.

God can be influencial person according to same dictionary.

Even in the bible, humans are reffer to as god. So what special attribution are you looking for? Do you know about any other religion outside christianity that you love to bash? In Yoruba spirituality, man is god. So tell me bro, where exactly do your problem lies here?

FOLYKAZE:

Actually you dont know the meaning of spiritual. You think it all about church service huh?

FOLYKAZE:

The bold is what I need here. It exposes gross ignorance of people like you.

Here is a definition of worship from freedictionary,

The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.


You agree atheists worship but to who do you accord or directed your act of worship to?

A deity? Idol? Or sacred object?

FOLYKAZE:

Atheist indeed are bunch of noisemakers

DProDG:


-Anyone can consider anything a deity.

DProDG:

-Nope, worship in religion is...
"the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity."
another definition(which has nothing to do with religion) is...
"great admiration or devotion shown towards a person or principle."

DProDG:

-The first definition, yes...

DProDG:

-I acknowledge the worth of Hitchens so, yes.

DProDG:

-Please show me where a deity is defined as "an influential person".

FOLYKAZE:


Knowledge is not a belief you know?

Atheist might have knowledge about god does not mean he believe in it. I know what trouble is but I dont dont believe it solve problems. Does this make a atroubist?

FOLYKAZE:

The question is, do you agree human is a deity? Judging from definitions from dictionary and different theologies.

FOLYKAZE:

Are human deity?

FOLYKAZE:

Are influencial people not god?

FOLYKAZE:

Did christianity not acknowledge human is a god?

FOLYKAZE:

Did Yoruba spirituality rule out man is no more a deity?

FOLYKAZE:

Yes. That is worship. You are ignorant of that though.

FOLYKAZE:

Deity is god

FOLYKAZE:

God is influencial person.

FOLYKAZE:

If your parents influence your life, they are gods.

FOLYKAZE:

Even in the bible, human are gods. You know that too?

FOLYKAZE:

influencial personalities.

FOLYKAZE:

And why is the second definition excluded?
Man are object of worship in many cultures and religion.

Deity = god = influencial person.
X = Y = 2
X = 2.
Simple logic

johnydon22:
Good i commend you for that..

Your only problem is misconception...let me define God as defined by my dictionary..

noun
The single deity of various monotheistic religions.
The single male deity of various duotheistic religions.
An impersonal and universal spiritual presence or force.
An omnipotent being, creator of the universe (as in deism).
The (personification of the) laws of nature.
(Wicca) The Horned God

johnydon22:
So whether your bible, yoruba spirituality say man is a god, we atheist say it is a lie... nothing is a god.. their are no gods.. simple...

johnydon22:
Do you want to impose your idea that man is a god on atheists? lolzzz let it be known to you that we disbelief the idea of god or gods in any form it may come... man, mythology, objects...

johnydon22:
lmao... Spirituality is not mundane according to religion... Am guessing your own idea of spirituality is different huh?

johnydon22:
exactly thats the meaning of worship but we dont believe their are or nothing is a deity neither or do we believe anything is sacred in your terms... so how come?

johnydon22:
Lmao... calm down, stop this speeding and check your assertions again and you will see who is making noise..

FOLYKAZE:


That is all?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=what+is+god

3. an adored, admired, or influential person.

FOLYKAZE:

Mother Nature is a god.

She represent planet earth

And atheist says there is no god

meaning planet earth is not existing.


Hilarious.

FOLYKAZE:


I am not asking you to believe either.

You should know what god is. That is what am telling you




My idea is atheistic spiritualism.[/quotes]atheistic spiritualism which is

[quote author=FOLYKAZE post=31610887]

Not asking you to believe. This is a case of knowledge

DProDG:
I'm simply gonna repeat myself, just as I have done, several times...

The second has nothing to do with religion. As long as the person revered is [size=20pt]not considered a DEITY[/size].

DProDG:
lmao!
Dog = animal = fish
X = Y = 2
x = 2
Unless you consider a dog a fish, I hope you see the flaw in your logic.

DProDG:
Words have different meanings...
As long as 'deity' does not mean 'influential person' it's not the same as god(in this case).

johnydon22:
Now pointing out this number three clearly shows it is different from the first and second definition... here God strictly means someone who is adore, admired or influencial, nothing spirity ... We are now clear, the third definition is no way the same thing as religious concept of God..

johnydon22:
lmao... This guy like mixing up different meanings in one word... And who even said nature is God

FOLYKAZE:


Like acting on ignorance?

-I have a thread where I argued everyone make sacrifices on daily basis. Eating is a sacrifice to a god called olubobotiribo.

Would you not reject this?

Fish is an aquatic animal while dog belongs to another animal family.

-Different class. . .i like your diversion though.

Shut it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_deities

-Human deities are there

FOLYKAZE:


Which of the religion pls?

In christianity man is god.

In yoruba spirituality, man is god.

FOLYKAZE:

So tell what you got.





Naturalistic panteists say so

DProDG:


-Keep your sacrifices and rituals to yourself.

-Awesome, at least you saw the flaw in your logic.

-Quote me arguing against that.

All I've asked(3 or 4 times now) is to show me where a 'deity' is defined as an 'influential person'...that simple

johnydon22:

according to the google link you gave their are four distinct definitions of the word God...
God /ɡäd/
noun
1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler
of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as
having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

3. an adored, admired, or influential person.

4. the gallery in a theater.
.....

It is so funny how you left the fourth definition... the gallery in a theater is God too .

These four definitions means different things as seen above, their is nothing more to be added on it everything speaks for itself now..

johnydon22:

So which of the God definitions above does nature fall in?

DProDG:


-Keep your sacrifices and rituals to yourself.

DProDG:

-Awesome, at least you saw the flaw in your logic.

DProDG:

-Quote me arguing against that.

All I've asked(3 or 4 times now) is to show me where a 'deity' is defined as an 'influential person'...that simple

johnydon22:


The dude is just mixing up the God defined as deity and God defined as adore people together and he knows the flaws in it...

johnydon22:


The dude is just mixing up the God defined as deity and God defined as adore people together and he knows the flaws in it...

DProDG:


Exactly...

@FOLYKAZE whether intentional or not that's what you're doing and there's no need going back and forward with this. If semantics and linguistics is your problem, I can't help you.

FOLYKAZE:


I dont trade insult online.

Holla me when you want a sound discussion.

FOLYKAZE:


Ya it does, you are choosing while and leaving the other untouched. Talk about unjustice?

FOLYKAZE:

You can find that in pantheistic definition of God.

There is nothing like that in the definitions.

DProDG:


Exactly...

@FOLYKAZE whether intentional or not that's what you're doing and there's no need going back and forward with this. If semantics and linguistics is your problem, I can't help you.

FOLYKAZE:


What is mixing here? I am not the one that create those words and it meaning.

Influencial person is human.

I have shown link to human deities.

What more do you want?

johnydon22:
its very obvious four of them dont mean the same thing... thats all

johnydon22:
So the pantheistic definition is different from that of the dictionary huh?...lmao...

You dont even know the basis of your own argument..