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spygadgets:
Pls boss Spyder what's d meaning of 105 charges . pls explain boss

I don't understand the question? Please explain bro.

PLOT NUMBER SIZE CURRENT STATUS OF DOCUMENTS

PLOT 1 556.693 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 2 582.268 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 3 634.605 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 4 822.167 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 5 538.732 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 6 536.317 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 7 511.360 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 8 437.563 SQM FOR SALE
PLOT 9 417.722 SQM FOR SALE
PLOT 10 598.586 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 11 652.195 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 12 541.814 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH SURVEYOR
PLOT 13 541.814 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 14 541.384 SQM RESERVED FOR PURCHASE
PLOT 15 541.096 SQM RESERVED FOR PURCHASE
PLOT 16 538.614 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 17 538.614 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 18 547.173 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 19 587.346 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 20 509.389 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 21 453.687 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 22 546.710 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 23 547.001 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 24 547.535 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 25 547.901 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 26 548.884 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 27 548.268 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 28 550.600 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 29 548.635 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 30 813.433 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 31 548.635 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 32 551.832 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 33 995.629 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 34 545.158 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 35 548.016 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 36 546.668 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 37 548.197 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 38 546.305 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 39 548.015 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 40 693.049 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 41 548.016 SQM
PLOT 42 710.206 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 43 547.617 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 44 546.635 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 45 549.987 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH THE SURVEYOR
PLOT 46 549.001 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 47 550.972 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 48 549.987 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 49 549.987 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 50 549.251 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 51 547.617 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 52 547.987 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 53 521.252 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 54 511.188 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 55 774.975 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 56 484.125 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 57 536.293 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 58 596.027 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES

ckenneths:


I don't understand the question? Please explain bro.

U said u will charge those not fully paid ... ? That was d question bro

spygadgets:


U said u will charge those not fully paid ... ? That was d question bro

Ok, in order to get everyone to pay up in time so we can start all our promised works like the culvert and the royal palms, it is becoming necessary to fine everyone who has not paid up by end of this month a 10% charge on the amount they owe.

ckenneths:


Ok, in order to get everyone to pay up in time so we can start all our promised works like the culvert and the royal palms, it is becoming necessary to fine everyone who has not paid up by end of this month a 10% charge on the amount they owe.

Oga Spyder880

Abeg, temper this justice with a little mercy o. You have been very patient and accommodating.
It will be a huge relief if you could extend this deadline till end of the year. I can see from your breakdown that those plots not fully paid for are in the minority.
This money has been elusive of recent. I blame our politicians!

Ejoor sir

ckenneths:


Ok, in order to get everyone to pay up in time so we can start all our promised works like the culvert and the royal palms, it is becoming necessary to fine everyone who has not paid up by end of this month a 10% charge on the amount they owe.

Oga Spyder880, for those who just purchased this month with a 3 month arrangement are you also going to charge them for not being fully paid up when the 3 months are not yet up? I don't expect so but just checking for clarification.

chuche60:


Spyder, for those who just purchased this month with a 3 month arrangement are you also going to charge them for not being fully paid up when the time is not yet up? I don't expect so but just checking for clarification.

No, those paying on installments are not to be penalized. I will not like to collect money from new people who wants to pay and pay back those who are owing.

whirlwind7:


Oga Spyder880

Abeg, temper this justice with a little mercy o. You have been very patient and accommodating.
It will be a huge relief if you could extend this deadline till end of the year. I can see from your breakdown that those plots not fully paid for are in the minority.
This money has been elusive of recent. I blame our politicians!

Ejoor sir

But this might delay our development of the area, which should attract other developers, which should in turn make our land values stagnant.

The completed documents for plot numbers 37 and 43 were dispatched through a courier company yesterday. They are expected to get to their respective owners by Monday.

I collected the completed documents for plot 16 from my lawyer yesterday evening, its now ready for dispatch to the owner.

ckenneths:

No, those paying on installments are not to be penalized. I will not like to collect money from new people who wants to pay and pay back those who are owing.

Good!

What's the next step after documentation? I believe by this time next week, we should be done with documentation.

ifyalways:

Good!

What's the next step after documentation? I believe by this time next week, we should be done with documentation.

By now we should have been doing the fencing of this land, but some of us wanted the documents first, so I suggest we talk about the fence, since the rains might not abate soon for me to start building the culvert from which we can drive in.

Anyone who can brave the loneliness in this area can also come and start building his or her house as soon as possible, we just need to take possession of this land as soon as possible since we have completed the payment, when these people finish chopping the money I paid them, they will start asking for development levy

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Watch out for our newest land acquisition move to Ako Nike, Enugu state. This one will be a pay and move in project, all my arrangements are geared towards the quick development of this new area, so be prepared for building your house as soon as we acquire here.

Tip: Buyers pay for everything including fencing fees, allow me to move on the grounds and build up the estate, watch out for the new thread. Loading. .......

spyder880:


By now we should have been doing the fencing of this land, but some of us wanted the documents first, so I suggest we talk about the fence, since the rains might not abate soon for me to start building the culvert from which we can drive in.

Anyone who can brave the loneliness in this area can also come and start building his or her house as soon as possible, we just need to take possession of this land as soon as possible since we have completed the payment, when these people finish chopping the money I paid them, they will start asking for development levy

Ok sir.
The rains sef dey dull business, new government, cash is limited now, everyone is careful and watching with " corner eye" but it is well. Ugwuanyi is working.

You can set the ball rolling as per fencing by weekend. Is the place cleared and marked now? Can I drive down there now and easily locate my plots?

ifyalways:

Ok sir.
The rains sef dey dull business, new government, cash is limited now, everyone is careful and watching with " corner eye" but it is well. Ugwuanyi is working.

You can set the ball rolling as per fencing by weekend. Is the place cleared and marked now? Can I drive down there now and easily locate my plots?

The rains has made the roads here difficult to pass, especially at the culvert area. I will spend the rest of the day working on the cost of the fence.

Yes you can get in and move around the site, but locating your land on your own will be difficult. I wish we already have an estate manager resident in the land. I am waiting for us to finish building the gate house to employ him. I will then have his number pasted here for anyone to get in and see the place.

In the interim, let me know anytime anyone wants to go to the land, there will always be villagers I can call up to show you the land in case I am not around Enugu.

Nice one guys! Are there still plots up for allocation and how much is the total package?

filcast:
Nice one guys! Are there still plots up for allocation and how much is the total package?

Only one plot left, price is N700,000 but I am not too keen to sell.

PLOT NUMBER SIZE CURRENT STATUS OF DOCUMENTS

PLOT 1 556.693 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 2 582.268 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 3 634.605 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 4 822.167 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 5 538.732 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 6 536.317 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 7 511.360 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 8 437.563 SQM FOR SALE
PLOT 9 417.722 SQM FOR SALE
PLOT 10 598.586 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 11 652.195 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 12 541.814 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH SURVEYOR
PLOT 13 541.814 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 14 541.384 SQM RESERVED FOR PURCHASE
PLOT 15 541.096 SQM RESERVED FOR PURCHASE
PLOT 16 538.614 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 17 538.614 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 18 547.173 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 19 587.346 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 20 509.389 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 21 453.687 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 22 546.710 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 23 547.001 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 24 547.535 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 25 547.901 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 26 548.884 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 27 548.268 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 28 550.600 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 29 548.635 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 30 813.433 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 31 548.635 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 32 551.832 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 33 995.629 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 34 545.158 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 35 548.016 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 36 546.668 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 37 548.197 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 38 546.305 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 39 548.015 SQM DOCUMENTS READY FOR COLLECTION
PLOT 40 693.049 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 41 548.016 SQM
PLOT 42 710.206 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 43 547.617 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 44 546.635 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 45 549.987 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH THE SURVEYOR
PLOT 46 549.001 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 47 550.972 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 48 549.987 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 49 549.987 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 50 549.251 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 51 547.617 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 52 547.987 SQM COMPLETED DOCUMENTS DELIVERED TO OWNER
PLOT 53 521.252 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 54 511.188 SQM DOCUMENTS STILL WITH LAWYER
PLOT 55 774.975 SQM NOT FULLY PAID
PLOT 56 484.125 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 57 536.293 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES
PLOT 58 596.027 SQM RESERVED FOR ESTATE FACILITIES

COST OF FENCING THIS LAND

The perimeter of this land measures 851.66 meters.
When you multiply 851.66 by 3.3 feet, it comes to a total of 2810.28 feet
Now divide 2810.28 feet into 12 feet partitions and it will total to 234.19 partitions of 12 feet

Considering that in a 12 feet partition, there are about 8 blocks, we are going to work with 9 per line to allow for blocks that will be used as double standing pillars, this means we are going to need 9 blocks multiplied by 12 lines = 108 blocks per partition.

Multiply 108 by 234.19 = 25,292 as the total number of blocks needed to build this perimeter fence.

I will like to make the blocks on site, so I can economize things and produce at N80 per block (25,292 x N80) = N 2,023,360.00

We are going to need 3 bags of cement per partition 3x234= 702 bags x 1800 = N1,263,600.00

We are going to need about 60 trips of sand in total (blinding the foundation, block work) 60 x N8000 = N480,000.00

We are going to require about 20 trips of gravel for blinding, gate pillars 20 x N18,000 = N360,000.00

Digging labour N1500 x 234 partitions = N351,000.00

Blinding with concrete N750 x 234 = N175,500.00

Block work N35 x 30,000 = N1,050,000.00

Gate house construction (two rooms, two toilets) N2,000,000.00

Double entrance gate with high columns and designed fancy beams N1,200,000.00 (more pictures of this later)

Total N8,903,460.00

When you divide this total by 58 plots, we all will have to come up with N153,508.00 for each of the plots we own here. I will be waiting for inputs on or against this calculations, if you think there is something I added or omitted in the calculations, kindly point it out.

We can start this fencing as soon as possible as we need to take possession of our land since we have completed our payments, other works like planting of royal palms might be going on at the same time, the culvert waits till the rains stop.

I can move to site as soon as we agree on these costs, picture updates will be added regularly.

spyder880:
COST OF FENCING THIS LAND
The perimeter of this land measures 851.66 meters.
When you multiply 851.66 by 3.3 feet, it comes to a total of 2810.28 feet
Now divide 2810.28 feet into 12 feet partitions and it will total to 234.19 partitions of 12 feet
Considering that in a 12 feet partition, there are about 8 blocks, we are going to work with 9 per line to allow for blocks that will be used as double standing pillars, this means we are going to need 9 blocks multiplied by 12 lines = 108 blocks per partition.
Multiply 108 by 234.19 = 25,292 as the total number of blocks needed to build this perimeter fence.
I will like to make the blocks on site, so I can economize things and produce at N80 per block (25,292 x N80) = N 2,023,360.00
We are going to need 3 bags of cement per partition 3x234= 702 bags x 1800 = N1,263,600.00
We are going to need about 60 trips of sand in total (blinding the foundation, block work) 60 x N8000 = N480,000.00
We are going to require about 20 trips of gravel for blinding, gate pillars 20 x N18,000 = N360,000.00
Digging labour N1500 x 234 partitions = N351,000.00
Blinding with concrete N750 x 234 = N175,500.00
Block work N35 x 30,000 = N1,050,000.00
Gate house construction (two rooms, two toilets) N2,000,000.00
Double entrance gate with high columns and designed fancy beams N1,200,000.00 (more pictures of this later)
Total N8,903,460.00
When you divide this total by 58 plots, we all will have to come up with N153,508.00 for each of the plots we own here. I will be waiting for inputs on or against this calculations, if you think there is something I added or omitted in the calculations, kindly point it out.
We can start this fencing as soon as possible as we need to take possession of our land since we have completed our payments, other works like planting of royal palms might be going on at the same time, the culvert waits till the rains stop.
I can move to site as soon as we agree on these costs, picture updates will be added regularly.

Well done Oga Spyder.
1. Sand : 60 trips of sand appears too much,IMO. Considering the size of this estate,I am thinking 50 trips should suffice.

2. Gravel : 20 trips is also too much. 17 trips of Sand, IMO.

3. .Digging Labour : 1000 ngn per partition ? Do they cost digging by per partition in Enugu? I was thinking digging is cost per plot? I suggest we cost digging per plot and each plot should not cost more than 4000 ngn.

4. Gate house Construction : Ok, so why do they need 2 rooms and toilets? I was thinking 1 room and toilet stands in between two gates(check attached picture) and whatever be the case 1,000,000 ngn should cover that.

5. Double entrance gate: No comment yet until i see the picture of what you have in mind.

ifyalways:

Well done Oga Spyder.
1. Sand : 60 trips of sand appears too much,IMO. Considering the size of this estate,I am thinking 50 trips should suffice.

2. Gravel : 20 trips is also too much. 17 trips of Sand, IMO.

3. .Digging Labour : 1000 ngn per partition ? Do they cost digging by per partition in Enugu? I was thinking digging is cost per plot? I suggest we cost digging per plot and each plot should not cost more than 4000 ngn.

4. Gate house Construction : Ok, so why do they need 2 rooms and toilets? I was thinking 1 room and toilet stands in between two gates(check attached picture) and whatever be the case 1,000,000 ngn should cover that.

5. Double entrance gate: No comment yet until i see the picture of what you have in mind.

Thank you sister for taking time to contribute to this. What I have in mind as the gate house is not something N1m can do, I have in mind a two room unit, one for the security men on duty and an inner office where the estate manager can use as his office. Both will have toilets so that the manager can lock his room and go around the estate without locking out the toilet. But we can reduce this to one.

The major cost will come from the building of the house, this small house will have pillars as there will be a deck, decking it and then plastering, electrical, plumbing, windows, doors, tiles, office furniture, painting etc. Nothing in building is small.

The gates will resemble the picture you attached, I am looking for a likely picture to attach. No need to start this and hang on the way.

More contributions are expected.

spyder880:


Thank you sister for taking time to contribute to this. What I have in mind as the gate house is not something N1m can do, I have in mind a two room unit, one for the security men on duty and an inner office where the estate manager can use as his office. Both will have toilets so that the manager can lock his room and go around the estate without locking out the toilet. But we can reduce this to one.

The major cost will come from the building of the house, this small house will have pillars as there will be a deck, decking it and then plastering, electrical, plumbing, windows, doors, tiles, office furniture, painting etc. Nothing in building is small.

The gates will resemble the picture you attached, I am looking for a likely picture to attach. No need to start this and hang on the way.

More contributions are expected.

I think your calculations are explicit enough for contributions to commence, I wish some co-landlords with better knowledge could comment on this, the fencing of this place will definitely facilitate development here and subsequently and increase in value of the properties. What we need to figure out is how to spend the least we could to achieve the best we want.

Now for my contribution:
1. While I thank you for dropping the cost per block to N80, I don't know if you considered "minus-ing" the entrance gate area from the number of blocks to be used.

2. The way am looking at it, the quantity of sand and gravel quoted, will cover both the walls and the gate house.

3. Just a crazy thought...How possible and cost effective is it to make the security house stand on the gate pillars as well, that is having the security housed decked on pillars with the gate pillars as part.

4. What's the Idea behind decking the gate house, I had followed one of your threads where you built similar structure for a cost of about half the number of rooms in million naira, so I was expecting one million naira to suffice for two rooms, which includes sand and gravel. Now we have sand, some blocks and gravel, if am correct with my earlier supposition.

5. Can you make a calculation of 100K/plot and work backwards? Just try some adjustments and consideration ...like building two rooms only while they use one of Ifyalways plot for toileting temporary till we're bouyant enough.

Thanks all.

Pchinak:


half the number of rooms in million naira, so I was expecting one million naira to..like building two rooms only while they use one of Ifyalways plot for toileting temporary till we're bouyant enough.

Thanks all.

Can you explain what this means please.
Thank you.

ifyalways:

Can you explain what this means please.
Thank you.

There's a thread he commenced building 16 rooms, I think he ended up building 12 with approximately half this number in million naira, ie 6 million naira. So I was expecting him to build two rooms with 1 million, am sure he understood me.


Ehm for the other one... Sorry ma, I guess I was carried away by looking for ways of reducing cost to meet 100K per plot levy, no vex.

Pchinak:


There's a thread he commenced building 16 rooms, I think he ended up building 12 with approximately half this number in million naira, ie 6 million naira. So I was expecting him to build two rooms with 1 million, am sure he understood me.


Ehm for the other one... Sorry ma, I guess I was carried away by looking for ways of reducing cost to meet 100K per plot levy, no vex.

aaahhh To use face me I face you standards to build our estate gate house? We better leave this till next year when Buhari may have released more money into the system

J

Pchinak:


There's a thread he commenced building 16 rooms, I think he ended up building 12 with approximately half this number in million naira, ie 6 million naira. So I was expecting him to build two rooms with 1 million, am sure he understood me.


Ehm for the other one... Sorry ma, I guess I was carried away by looking for ways of reducing cost to meet 100K per plot levy, no vex.

Considering we are yet to do drainage and road, I join you to ask that Oga Spyder review and do something about the cost.

As per your over excitement induced post, just call Spyder, get my plot number from him and deposit 2 tippers of sand and 200 blocks. That's the only way I can get over this " toilet insult"

ifyalways:
J
Considering we are yet to do drainage and road, I join you to ask that Oga Spyder review and do something about the cost.

As per your over excitement induced post, just call Spyder, get my plot number from him and deposit 2 tippers of sand and 200 blocks. That's the only way I can get over this " toilet insult"

Chai, I don die.

spyder880:


aaahhh To use face me I face you standards to build our estate gate house? We better leave this till next year when Buhari may have released more money into the system

I wish others could add their thoughts to this, I really would have prefered that fencing asap, it gives more sense of security on the land and if done quickly, we may reduce the worries of one levy or the other from that community. However if majority seem to prefer discussing it next year, its fine.

Am in support of your suggestion, please Oga Spider try and do more modification to the cost lets know if we can get a cost between #100,000 to #120,000 per a plot; the economy is too hard now but we need to secure our property.

I wish others could add their thoughts to this, I really would have prefered that fencing asap, it gives more sense of security on the land and if done quickly, we may reduce the worries of one levy or the other from that community. However if majority seem to prefer discussing it next year, its fine. [/quote]

I am with my lawyer now, and about 12 plots have their documents tied here because of one reason or another. Some are because of name changes, others are because of addresses not supplied.

The owner of plot number 47 should reach me with his address so we can get his documents ready.

Today I am collecting the completed documents for plots 6, 40, 46, 48, 54. I will despatch them as soon as possible. Thanks.

Ugwup and Pchinak, co-signed.

Oga Spyder, we are not waiting till next year. Review the costing once more biko. We trust you would be able to perform a magic that will bring it down to say 115,000 ngn per plot.

Spyder, let us fence ASAP.... thank goodness dangote has reduced cement price with immediate effect. If cement price is down and fencing completed, any surplus can be rolled over into other projects in the facility . fencing will add immediate value to this estate. So I will suggest we give a deadline for the ideas to come in, followed by the voting, then we adopt the price point with most votes. Let us get going on this issue ASAP.