DProDG:

In other words, only biased articles that are subjective and not verifiable historically are the right ones? Ok...

Clutching at straws now huh? Smh!

doubleDx:


Clutching at straws now huh? Smh!

when they present their false allegation against God and they are given a wonderful answer (like the answer you present to them) there only reply was to say the bible is unreliable.the funny things is that, they are the one's quoting from the same bible in the first place, the op is an example.

malvisguy212:
there are many things you don't know, you are very very wrong my friend.
The genesis flood was not global but a local one, and water did not cover all the earth.When you read an English translation of the biblical account of the flood, you will undoubtedly notice many words and verses that seem to suggest that the waters covered all of planet earth. However, one should note that today we look at everything from a global perspective, whereas the Bible nearly always refers to local geography.

You will not be able to know this with the English translations of the bible, so let look at the original Hebrew word.

The Hebrew words which are translated as "whole earth" or "all the earth" are kol (Strong's number H3605), which means "all," and erets (Strong's number H776), which means "earth,""land," "country," or "ground."

Infacte, we don't need to go to far because the Hebrew word KOL and ERETS is used earlier in genesis chapter;

The name of the first is Pishon; it flows
around the whole [kol] land [erets] of
Havilah, where there is gold. (Genesis
2:11)
And the name of the second river is
Gihon; it flows around the whole [kol]
land [erets] of Cush. (Genesis 2:13)

Base on this verse uses of the same word "whole land"(kol erets) we understand that it was not a global flood but local.Obviously, the description of kol erets is modified by the name of the land, indicating a local area from the context. In fact, the term kol erets is nearly always used in the Old Testament to describe a local area of land, instead of our entire planet.

There are many more example, For example, in Genesis 11 (the Tower of Babel) the text says;
"the whole [kol] earth [erets] used the
same language." We know that this
reference is not really to the earth at all
(and certainly not to the "whole earth",
but to the people of the earth, who all
lived in one geographic location. It wasn't until later that God scattered the people over the face of the earth.There are many other examples of where kol erets actually refers to people rather than the geography of the "whole earth":

Shall not the Judge of all [kol] the earth
[erets] deal justly?" (Genesis 18:25)

If we are to believe that the flood was a global one then going by this verse we will be saying God judge the earth which is wrong (God judges the people of the earth, not the earth itself)

@proton your thread dosent make sense at all,bible say their wickedness exceed great,God even gave them His grace to repent by sending Noah to preach to them but the refused,Noah told them how God is about to destroyed the land,but the chose there WILL not to obeyed God word, God will not forced his will on you. Living in a peaceful world is not among the will of God, the world was created for spiritual being to chose to love or hate God, once evil is eliminated then the freewill of God is partial.

It is impossible the flood was local, absolutely impossible!

Misogynist2014:
It is impossible the flood was local, absolutely impossible!

in the text, the whole earth is referring to local geography area,where there are population of people.take for example this verses;

Now the earth was corrupt in the sight
of God, and the earth was filled with
violence. ( Genesis 6:11)
And God looked on the earth, and
behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had
corrupted their way upon the earth.
( Genesis 6:12)

When bible say the earth is corrupted we know that God is reffering to the people and it only the geography area where humans are populated.

There is an Hebrew word used for the entire earth. The word is tebel (Strong's H8398), which is found 37 times in the Old Testament. Curiously, this word is never used to describe the flood.

Misogynist2014:
Don't mind johnydon22 Muhammad called Christians 'people of the book' http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Book Why then is it that Allah was not represented with pic? They continue to foōl them, may God forgive them. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Hypocrite.

**Spits on you ***

malvisguy212:
in the text, the whole earth is referring to local geography area,where there are population of people.take for example this verses;

Now the earth was corrupt in the sight
of God, and the earth was filled with
violence. ( Genesis 6:11)
And God looked on the earth, and
behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had
corrupted their way upon the earth.
( Genesis 6:12)

When bible say the earth is corrupted we know that God is reffering to the people and it only the geography area where humans are populated.

There is an Hebrew word used for the entire earth. The word is tebel (Strong's H8398), which is found 37 times in the Old Testament. Curiously, this word is never used to describe the flood.

Why build a boat when you can just move away from the area? Explain gen 7:23 7:21 7:24 7:19 7:20 7:11

Misogynist2014:
Why build a boat when you can just move away from the area? Explain gen 7:23 7:21 7:24 7:19 7:20 7:11

God don't want the evil to spread. If God had told Noah to just migrate away from the flood area, the people would not have been warned of the impending judgment. Ultimately, they were without excuse in their rebellion against God, since the impending judgment was proclaimed to them for 100 years before it happened. Likewise, God will send two preachers for 1260 days prior to the ultimate judgment of God. Those who get on God's ark (Jesus Christ) will be saved from the judgment and pass from death to eternal life.

there are some good biblical reasons why He chose not to do so. Why did God make the Israelites march around Jericho for seven days prior to the wall falling down? Why did God make the Israelite look upon the bronze serpent to be healed of snake bite in the wilderness? Why did Jesus make the blind man go to the Pool of Siloam to heal his blindness? Were any of these things actually required for God to do His work? No! God could have just wiped out all the evil people in the
world, as He did later to the all the
Egyptians' first-born. Maybe God had
good reasons for Noah to build the ark?
God has a purpose for each person of
faith to join Him in preaching His message. God's plan will be accomplished regardless of our
participation in it. However, God gives
obedient humans the privilege of
participating in God's plans. Likewise,
God had a plan for Noah, part of which
was for him and his sons to demonstrate their commitment and perseverance to the Lord.

One will notice in the judgments that
God renders, He almost always gives a
warning to those who are being judged.
For example, God sent angels to Sodom
before it was to be destroyed, sent
Jonah to Nineveh to warn them of the
judgment to come, and will send two
prophets to warn the people of the earth of the final judgment. The building of the ark was a great testimony of the coming judgment, since it was preached for 100 years during the building of the ark. The New Testament states this idea directly, since it says that Noah was a "preacher of righteousness":

For if God did not spare angels when
they sinned, but cast them into hell
and committed them to pits of
darkness, reserved for judgment; and
did not spare the ancient world, but
preserved Noah, a preacher of
righteousness, with seven others,
when He brought a flood upon the
world of the ungodly; ( 2 Peter 2:4-5)

blueyedgeek:
And why did God require animal sacrifice in the old testament sef? After the flood Noah still had to kill one of the 'saved' animals as sacrifice to his bloodthirsty deity.

Kill yourself and if you are lucky you will see God to answer you. If the babalawo's make sacrifice both of food and animals do you think the Biblica sacrifice is coincidence? Don't use your childish brain in solving a matter but seek elderly wisdom. Christianity and islam may not be the ways of our ancestors but the whole concept (I mean the books-d original and not d perverted) are ours (recordings).

Pr0ton:


was why God went so far in causing a "global flood" to wipe off man from the surface of the earth? As long as evil people exist after the flood, it shows that He is an under-achiever and His killing of innocent kids, foetus and animals was a waste of life, time and power which consequently makes him a blood-thirsty malevolent big time murderer and finally... a loser; features we wouldn't expect from an all-powerful, all-knowing loving God.

You have eyes but cannot see, ears you have but cannot hear...ehnnn only you? nawa oh. Yes He's blood thirsty that's why He made blood to flow through our veins, your blood is next to be sucked,sacrificed or better still wasted. I'm sure if you were there during the time of Noah the flood would have washed you away, you must be very careful when using some terms on God, He's merciful but no sin goes unpunished (consequences) and if google, wikipedia is your source / enlightenment gate sorry you are doomed another slave generation in the making.

johnydon22:
And wikipedia nailed it. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_flood_narrative

So when did wikipedia become divine revealer?

johnydon22:

So millions of other people were killed, millions of children just to kill the naphilims. . why not snap his hands and all the naphilims will drop dead.

So you find this enough reason to commit world wide genocide, infacticide and murder.. Seriously

Ds thread was just created for silly attention (I'm sure u ve ur hidden agenda), if you don't believe in the story WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? Why not talk about what you accept and believe in so people can understand you. D quoted plus Op

malvisguy212:
God don't want the evil to spread. If God had told Noah to just migrate away from the flood area, the people would not have been warned of the impending judgment. Ultimately, they were without excuse in their rebellion against God, since the impending judgment was proclaimed to them for 100 years before it happened. Likewise, God will send two preachers for 1260 days prior to the ultimate judgment of God. Those who get on God's ark (Jesus Christ) will be saved from the judgment and pass from death to eternal life.

there are some good biblical reasons why He chose not to do so. Why did God make the Israelites march around Jericho for seven days prior to the wall falling down? Why did God make the Israelite look upon the bronze serpent to be healed of snake bite in the wilderness? Why did Jesus make the blind man go to the Pool of Siloam to heal his blindness? Were any of these things actually required for God to do His work? No! God could have just wiped out all the evil people in the
world, as He did later to the all the
Egyptians' first-born. Maybe God had
good reasons for Noah to build the ark?
God has a purpose for each person of
faith to join Him in preaching His message. God's plan will be accomplished regardless of our
participation in it. However, God gives
obedient humans the privilege of
participating in God's plans. Likewise,
God had a plan for Noah, part of which
was for him and his sons to demonstrate their commitment and perseverance to the Lord.

One will notice in the judgments that
God renders, He almost always gives a
warning to those who are being judged.
For example, God sent angels to Sodom
before it was to be destroyed, sent
Jonah to Nineveh to warn them of the
judgment to come, and will send two
prophets to warn the people of the earth of the final judgment. The building of the ark was a great testimony of the coming judgment, since it was preached for 100 years during the building of the ark. The New Testament states this idea directly, since it says that Noah was a "preacher of righteousness":

For if God did not spare angels when
they sinned, but cast them into hell
and committed them to pits of
darkness, reserved for judgment; and
did not spare the ancient world, but
preserved Noah, a preacher of
righteousness, with seven others,
when He brought a flood upon the
world of the ungodly; ( 2 Peter 2:4-5)

The story of the flood answers a lot of questions (do not fret), Ice Age, division of continents, etc. Noah and his family employed people to build the boat (we also must be sure not to judge the ability of the pre flood era) whom they paid dutifully. To God, all things are possible. According to Moses, the great deep burst open and windows of Heaven opened (underground water gushed out and rain fell to its very last). Have you been to a house, small outside and incredibly spacious inside? Such was the wonder of the most HIGH. Even Noah must have doubted, but he had faith, he listened to the voice of the LORD when he built the ark. It is known that all species of animals came from a parent animal, though it is the time frame in contention. God was with them in the ark, HE remembered them, they lacked nothing and were filled. God preserved plants and fishes since HIS target was man and land animals (though not all made it) and made a very powerful and invaluable wind blow across the earth (which could have wrecked the boat in half a second but for the LORD was with them). God froze the arctic and antartic i.e. Ice age Job 38 vs 21-23 https://www.nairaland.com/2129720/pseudo-science-exposed-again-wooly and submerged a large part of the continents and pushed up mountain ranges Pslam 104:8. As soon as they left the ark, the wild animals became scavengers, ate dead bodies and were scattered all over the world through land bridges. The monument below is one of those preserved by the LORD that we may see history through them and learn from their mistake.

mimijj:


Ds thread was just created for silly attention (I'm sure u ve ur hidden agenda), if you don't believe in the story WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? Why not talk about what you accept and believe in so people can understand you. D quoted plus Op

calm down and stop being so defensive. . . i dont reply this type of post. . if you cannot contribute and bring up an intelligent argument then am sorry.

mimijj:


Kill yourself and if you are lucky you will see God to answer you.

Jesus would be so proud of this your post. I should commit suicide to see god, stew peed advice.

If the babalawo's make sacrifice both of food and animals do you think the Biblica sacrifice is coincidence? Don't use your childish brain in solving a matter but seek elderly wisdom. Christianity and islam may not be the ways of our ancestors but the whole concept (I mean the books-d original and not d perverted) are ours (recordings).

So, what makes your god any special than the ones worshiped by the babalawos if they all require sacrifice in order to function properly? I wouldn't have a problem if you just admit your god is just like every other bull cr*p god we have been hearing about since the beginning of time and since your god (notice I typed the 'g' in lowercase letter, go and kill yourself) is like any other, what makes him more special than say... amadioha for instance?

doubleDx:
Clutching at straws now huh? Smh!

Nope...

doubleDx:
The only valid writings about Yahweh are the ones written by his prophets and messengers in the Holy Books

You basically said whatever does not agree with your holy books is invalid. That's the definition of biased.

KingEbukasBlog:


Maybe I should explain simple English contractions to you .Did you argue theology with me after all? [size=16pt]NO [/size]

Still waiting for examples of brainless animal life forms

I was gonna list unicellular organisms but you're equally an example.

And make it clear to me right now , you think am lying about my experience with miracles right ?

IDC about your personal experiences.

Atheist logic : If I didn't experience it , it is a hoax

...subjective

If Science hasn't explained it , it is a hoax

...is either UNscientific or needs a testable hypothesis

Big Bang Theory : [size=4pt]Science has not explained its [/size] initial conditions [size=4pt], from your logic it is a hoax [/size]

Not part of the theory.

Science has not provided answers and found the missing links regarding evolution , [s]from your logic we are safe to say it is a hoax[/s]

Answers to...?
You mentioned fossils and 'pre-adamic' creations before and here you mention missing links. Hehe, funny.

blueyedgeek:
People like to claim that superman is an over-powered character but sentry is a whole load of overpowered bullshit. The dude has the power of 10 exploding suns, superman wouldn't stand a chance. Darkseid would be a better match for sentry in my opinion.

These guys banned me for my reply to this. Seems like they really do not like Sentry. Perhaps I'll open a thread on comic book characters later today.

DProDG:

I was gonna list plants, bacteria, protozoa and other unicellular organisms but you're equally an example.


IDC about your personal experiences.


...subjective

...is either UNscientific or needs a testable hypothesis


Not part of the theory.

Answers to...?
You mentioned fossils and 'pre-adamic' creations before and here you mention missing links. Hehe, funny.

You just wasted your time typing ... brainless for not copying and pasting like you do , and now being judged for human mistakes ... [size=20pt]LOL[/size]

This brainless one has done much already ,its takes my type to know ..yearning for more by God's grace ... don't make me blow me my trumpet please , though rapture is nigh

mimijj:


You have eyes but cannot see, ears you have but cannot hear...ehnnn only you? nawa oh. Yes He's blood thirsty that's why He made blood to flow through our veins, your blood is next to be sucked,sacrificed or better still wasted. I'm sure if you were there during the time of Noah the flood would have washed you away, you must be very careful when using some terms on God, He's merciful but no sin goes unpunished (consequences) and if google, wikipedia is your source / enlightenment gate sorry you are doomed another slave generation in the making.

Did that annoy you? To hell with you and your fvcking GOD. I'm very nice tho. I can let you both suck some of my blood, at least mosquitoes here would have cool competitors.

malvisguy212:
when they present their false allegation against God and they are given a wonderful answer (like the answer you present to them) there only reply was to say the bible is unreliable.the funny things is that, they are the one's quoting from the same bible in the first place, the op is an example.

You are always arguing blindly. That's why I don't like replying your post. Only when I'm in my leisure time and feel like replying is when you see me quoting you. I quoted from what you guys deem reliable just to show you the absurdities and flaws in it. That doesn't ridicule me in anyway. Only pointing to you guys' doltishness.

God was merciful

brainiac5:
God was merciful

but then...

mimijj:


Ds thread was just created for silly attention (I'm sure u ve ur hidden agenda), if you don't believe in the story WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? Why not talk about what you accept and believe in so people can understand you. D quoted plus Op

Hmmmm.. How sure r u??

The Great Flood of Noah occurred approximately 17 million 250 thousand (17,250,000) years ago, and this means that Noah existed long before Adam in the sense of time. In fact, Adam was descendants of Noah. The history of the Ancients shows that a subcontinent called Atlantis existed at the time of the Great Flood, and it was submerged under water by Lucifer’s fall to Earth after being cast from The Sun. As it came to Earth, The Great Serpent’s powers caused interference with the magnetism that controls the Earth and Moon in their courses, and this interference bought on the Great Deluge, both from the sky and the waters of the Earth which rolled over parts of the Planet like tidal waves. Lucifer is Leviathan (Job the 41st chapter; Isaiah 27th chapter 1 verse; Revelations 12th chapter 9 verse; Genesis 3 chapter 1 verse) who is The Moon God called Sin by the Ancients. Noah’s Art (Arc) is the CRESCENTS of the MOON.

op, repen, or youwil rote in jail aka hell fire.

Obadiah77:
op, repen, or youwil rote in jail aka hell fire.

clap for yourself