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Poll: Who is the Greatest Rapper on Nairaland?Chamotex: 60% (18 votes)Mailmalc: 40% (12 votes) This poll has ended |
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Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by mukina2: 5:25pm On Jan 25, 2009 |
.---------------------Greatest Rapper on Nairaland Final -------------------------------- Hello chics and dudes we are now a tthe end of it Below are the verses of the two finalists. Who do you think was the better netcee? The judges will also give their verdict Chamotex Vs Mailmalc Quote from: chamotex on Today at 02:47:23 AM
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Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by MrCrackles(m): 5:27pm On Jan 25, 2009 |
Some of the best Netcees didnt take part, no disrespect! Thumbs up ya all dat took part! |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 5:48pm On Jan 25, 2009 |
The final did not live up to expectation like we all expected. Def'ly, the 2 cats got lazy and i believe they coulda done better or worded their verses doper. Too many forced multis, closers were weak but then. . . . . .a winner has to emerge. I would be back to give ma VERDICT. Stay tuned. . . . . |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 11:38pm On Jan 25, 2009 |
chamotex: Nice opener. Several killer-punches and wordplay(Superb)
It's k'inda played but i see skillz with the multis.(Decent)
A bit forced and this couplette coulda been worded more effectively. U didn't punch hard enough to make him bleed. (Average)
Lol. . . . . .Blazing(Superb)
This was played but it didn't fail to hit hard. Anorexic in a 'pie-eating contest' was classic(Superb)
Forced multis. U coulda used fewer words to drive ur points home. If u overuse em rhymes, it becomes too stretched and it kills the flow(Decent)
This closer is way weak. U coulda done better.(Weak) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mailmalc: Good punchline. No mucking about(Superb)
Great bar. I see cockiness here.(Decent)
'extended' shoulda been 'extensive'. Funny, dope flow but the punch was a bit weak and played.(Average)
Classic multis.(Excellente).
Lmao!!! Nice humour.(Decent)
Nah. . . . .Your worst bar by far.(Weak)
Rhymes are off. 'Biatch' n 'Down' are not homonyms. (Weak)
Nice closer, shoulda been worded properly but it was way better than your opponent's(Decent) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FINAL JUDGEMENT = DRAW PERSONALS = TIE NAMEFLIPS = CHAMOTEX PUNCHES = MAILMALC FLOW = MAILMALC WORDPLAY= TIE MULTIES = CHAMOTEX ENJOYMENT = TIE. I THINK THE 2 NETCEES SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER GO. BOTH OF EM CAN OFFER MORE THAN THIS. Chamotex = Use couplettes. . . .don't merge 3 lines together. Mailmalc = Use words that rhyme. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Tgirl4real(f): 12:27am On Jan 26, 2009 |
Hmm . . . Interesting break-down by Sauron. Wow! I'm really learning. I support a 2nd round too. It's d finals. It got to be smoking hot!!! |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 1:39am On Jan 26, 2009 |
@ Sauron, you can use triplettes if ya lines are short enough or the beat is a slow Durrrty South beat. Big L: And my swoll knob/ your main girl cold slobbed/ And gave a Mouth Action/ to my whole mob/ with no prob/ First line is couplettes, second line is triplettes. In our battle, I used mostly triplettes. Anyway, well done to both emcees for making it to the final. . . . Decent battle, nothing preternatural, but not mediocre either. Flow: Mailmalc wins this by a long way. Chamo, you need to shorten ya lines. Cadence: Draw Multi's: Mailmalc no doubt. Chamo's multi's are somewhat forced. I'm surprised Sauron gave this category to Chamo. Wit: Draw Punchlines: Chamo: Chamo: Best line of the whole battle. . . .the flow didn't impede the landing of the punch. It dropped just right. Chamo: Good use of wordplay in Achilles. . . . but 'de-feeted' lines are SO played. Mail: Mail: dope shit = canibus / (w)raps are also played Mail: Decent hit. Mail: Good hit, with nice wordplay. I'm gonna have to call it a draw on punchlines. Chamo punched more, but his flow and set-up impeded the way the punches landed. Instead of uppercuts, they landed as left-hooks, except for the 'skydive' line which landed perfectly on the chin. MailMalc punched less, but his set-ups were almost perfect, turning somewhat average jabs into solid hooks. Vote: Mailmalc |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Tgirl4real(f): 2:10am On Jan 26, 2009 |
Hmm. . . See free tutorials. I think a second round will do. Good one Ibime. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Tgirl4real(f): 2:19am On Jan 26, 2009 |
Wonder why the judges don't give us a breakdown like Sauron and Ibime did. All we see are marks and results. We need to know how u arrived at your conclusions so that we all can be objective. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by mailmalc(m): 3:13am On Jan 26, 2009 |
Nice one 'Chamotex ! uhmmm . . i had this in mind actually "crippled=>weevil, biatch(bee~atch)=>is~downmaybe the pronounciation slightly differs but i can make 'em sound similar . Even Talib nd Eminem force rhymes and it makes more sense if it is a multi syllable as the previous perfectly rhymed syllable would cover the lapses makin 'em sound very similar. Thank ya ~Sauron~ and Ibime . . . points clearly noted. I'm still learnin the art. Pls ~Sauron~ do u call end-rhymes multis? ur definition of 'multis' aint clear to me. I don't think a poll is needed hurr cuz too many clone id's are movin freely on NL. VOTE ! VOTE ! ! VOTE ! ! ! |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by JUNIT1(m): 10:00am On Jan 26, 2009 |
no second round pls, chamotex won this hands down, let the next tourney start, so i can win it |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 12:08pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
mailmalc: "I’ll imbibe and ride every bride in ur tribe, but I don’t wana ‘borrow-ur-bride’, just wana ‘swallow-ur-pride" That was the MULTIs i was talking about. . . . . . Forced and stretched though but it was the best line in the battle. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 12:25pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
^^^ Come on man, that's disrespectful to MailMalc. I think he knows exactly what a multi is without your lessons. Look at his whole verse, its got 6 multis: smack this bitch/ cannabis (I suppose he'd have wanted "dis-arm his wrist" as well, but thats a mispronunciation) accessory/ testing me/ best believe/ spell defeat/ these-mortals/ free-portals/ keep off dude/ reached ya doom/ missiles dispatched/ crippled biatch/ winning streak/ publicity/ kidding me Chamo only had 3 occasions: taken aback/ scathing attack/ imbibe and ride/ bribe in your tribe/ borrow ya bride/ swallow ya pride/ Thats why he has a right to question what you mean by multi's when you say Chamo won on multi's. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 12:40pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Ibime: Unfortunately, Chamotex is a story teller. He tends to use longer words and he stretches his stuffs so much that his intended couplettes go as far as quintuplettes. His stuffs are forced without a doubt but i think he has the eye for WORDS THAT RHYMES(in text) MORE THAN Mailmalc. BREAKDOWN. "Accessory" and "testing me" don't rhyme in a text battle. In audio?? Maybe!!! And thatz because rappers slant it to make it sound like homonyms. When doing text battle, i don't want people to tell me 'girl' and 'boy' rhymes because 2Pac or Biggie used it. Why can't "accessory" go with "necessary". "Testing me" should go with "stressing me" or "respecting me" U even went further to say 'keep off dude' rhymes with 'reach ya dude"??. . . . .In which book of rhymes?? Keep off dude = sleep off crude, reach your dude = teach you pseud and reh reh reh. Missiles dispatched can't rhyme with crippled biatch. . . .Come on. "Missiles dispatched" coulda been synced with "sinews detatched". Winning streak can't also go with publicity. . . . .Winning streak = sinning prick = feening sick etc. This is a text battle. . . . . .the words should rhyme on paper. Chamotex went with "Borrow your bride" and "Swallow your pride". . . . .Those are 3 words rhyming in sync(what MULTIES should be in text). |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by mailmalc(m): 12:59pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Too bad ~Sauron~ doesn't even know wat multi-syllable rhymes are . Those rhymes on dat line are called End-Rhymes and In-Rhymes. Bet someone needs to get skooled by flocabulary "I’ll imbibe and ride every bride in ur tribe, but I don’t wana ‘borrow-ur-bride’, just wana ‘swallow-ur-pride"i beg ur pardon but those ain't called multies. These are perfect examples of multies "taken aback ~ scathing attack". Nah . . . ur knowledge of rhymes ain't acceptable. Seriously do a lil' research for urself nd see if u'r points are actually on point or they'r just pointless. In a bid to rhyme tight most netcess don't rhyme right. Go thru 'em lines critically then come back Thank you gentlemen ! |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 1:04pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
mailmalc: Ya knowledge of rhymes are warped. There's no way 'publicity' and 'testing me' or 'accessory' would rhyme in any text battle. I was only replying to what Ibime said u had intended. If that was what you truly intended and Ibime is not 2nd -guessing then u missed by far. Jeeeez, apart from "taken aback" and "scathin attack". . . .which don't even go together, what other classic multis did u drop??
U musta been reading dodgy text battles. It seems u need lecturing about masculine rhymes(single rhyme) or feminine rhymes/multis(a rhyme that matches 2 or more syllables at the end of respective lines). Chamotex had more 'feminine rhymes' than you did even though his stuffs were FORCED. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 1:35pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Since when do we say that multi's must be three words each or two words each? Are you gonna tell me these are not multi's: Spitzofrenik-remains/ the unquenchable-flame/ Every rapper trembles-in-pain/ when they mention-my-name/ Whats the difference? The first line are two-word rhyming schemes, the second line are three-word rhyming schemes/ But there is NO WAY you can tell me they are not multisyllabic because the no of words differ. Thats absolute rubbish! Multi-SYLLABLE, not multi-WORD!!!! How does accessory and testing me not form a multi? Because one is one-word and the other is two-words? Get outta here! All of Mailmalc's multi's ARE valid in any emcee's book! Now, tell me this, How do you give top marks to Chamo for this piece of wordplay: It’s the final LAP but ‘MailWANK’ is still on ‘shuffle’ like an ‘iPod’, just running on empty battery 'Achilles' (I-kill-his) clan's ankles till they dangle, so im not the one getting ‘de-feeted’ verbally This ‘MALC’ loves to receive SPAM (sperm) MAIL up the arse via ‘SPECIAL DELIVERY’ Since when do Spam and Sperm equate phonetically? How many times have we heard 'de-feet' lines? I can pull up a hundred sites with 'de-feet' lines. How does 'shuffle' like an 'Ipod' equate to a punch? Is this a Mancunian Conspiracy? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 2:19pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
ilovetgirl, sharrap dia! This is an objective discussion, not some cliquish beef. BTW, Sauron beat MailMalc hands down in that semi-final. You can take that battle to any qualified HipHop forum and Sauron would win. I don't know what the judges were thinking. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 2:27pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Ibime: Ibime, how can you compare the spitzofrenik bar with what Mailmalc did up there?? Remains. . . .flame, in-pain. . . .my name. . . .As u can see, both final words are unstressed in English diction. How can u compare this pretty piece of poetry with Mailmalc's verses. . . . In a true scheme of things. . . . .Chamo's multis were FORCED but u cannot deny he has an eye for rhymes MORE than Mailmac.
I never said they aint Multi-syllabic because the number of words differ. . . . .They are 2 different things. However, they should make sense, unforced and please it MUST RHYME.
Ibime, were u bribed?? I am a purist. . . . . .For me it's 2 extremes. It's either filled or empty. I don't do lukewarmness. This is an example of multis from Eminem's infinite. . . . My pen and paper cause a chain reaction To get your brain relaxin’, a[b] zany actin’ maniac in action[/b] A brainiac in fact son, you mainly lack attraction Watch the use of those words carefully and tell me Mailmalc was a mile close to this piece.
I rated both of em SUPERB. One was not better the other in ma grades. Please check carefully. Chamotex had clever wordplay. . . Achilles(I-kill-his) and the bar has got humour.
Compare it to this. . . . .my dome be a millitary zone, u better "Keep off dude"/ niccur u've reached ya doom/ this nicompoo/ still a misfit even if he exercises his brains wit 'em sit ups too How does dome being a military zone equals to a scratch(never mind punch)?? De-feet lines is SO PLAYED but then Mailmalc had his own negatives too. I think both cats should go again. Like i have rightly judged, there's no DAYLIGHT between the two of them. Let em do anutha round.
How can?? Chamotex shouldn't have even been in the Finals which we both voiced on the opening day. Why should i favour him?? Is he paying me for this?? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 2:31pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Ibime: Just the way i felt u killed Chamotex in the Semis as well. It seems the judges have it all screwed up or they decided to drop Sauron because they don't want NLers to think a moderator made the finalz. Anyways. . . . . .I still think Mailmalc n Chamotex should do a re-run. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 2:44pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
MailMalcs multi's were forced. . . accepted. . . .but they are multi's nonetheless and no more forced than Chamo's. That means Mailmalc trumped Chamo by 6 multi-schemes to three. It is not about quantity though. Its about quality. . . .but Chamo never managed to rhyme more than 2 multi's together. . . MailMalc actually rhymed 4 straight multi's in a two bar prose: ma detach ur spines nd leave u 'cordless' like a mic accessory/ just for testin me/ best believe/ in this final tour i leave ur eyez sore/ my lines spells defeat/ Now, this is the FINAL thing that gives Mailmalc the edge for me: Multi's are highly linked to flow. A multi only drops nicely if the flow is on point. I find it hard to detach flow from multi's. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by chamotex(m): 2:49pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
mailmalc: Co-signed bro . . . with someone like FLOWSHOW having about 55 monickers, that nigga alone could decide the whole shit! |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by chamotex(m): 3:00pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
@ Ibime & Sauron Nice analysis guyz. I actually felt like I could have come harder on the verse but I had to rush it. Went out Saturday nite and came back just after midnite. I was under pressure to drop my lines due to the time constraint, so I agree some of 'em where forced. But most emcees force lines anywayz. Thanks for the feedback tho, you learn new things everyday. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 3:18pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Ibime: I enjoyed Chamo's verses more to be honest. The reason Chamo's multis were FORCED was because he was ALWAYS LOOKING for the right RHYMES to make his bars.
Superb punchline but i think i need a magnifying glass.
I agree and this is why the judges have let me down with their grades. After this tourney, the grading system has to change. We want to know how Chamotex has been hitting 93% in all his battle. chamotex: U won't be judged by the poll. The judges just want NLers to have a feel. Just like Naija elections, there votes DO NOT COUNT so FLOWSHOW can vote as much as he wants to. The poll will have no effect on the final decision. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by kaydee(m): 3:21pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
@ Ibime If u ain't cool with the judges decision,take the semi finals to any Netcee Site U know and gimme the link.The only battle i ain't kool with is Sauron Vs Chamotex.U shoulda won hands down if U had not kept the best for the last.So sad UE is nomore,I'm sure LD with his love of complexity won't give it 2 U still.AHH won't give U the feedback U need,AHH is sleeping. @ Topic This is a very weak final,I'll suggest this final be deleted and give us a worthy final since both U cats keep complaining bout time like U both don't know U're in the final.Even Sauron's keystyle murder both ya verses.If U both want a re-match,it'll be good for the tournament and we don't even have to judge this 1st one.Holla now or suffer later. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 3:35pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
kaydee: You keep saying that, but I beg to differ. . . you keep sweating a joke that I made. . . .you must take it more serious than me. . . .I didn't even mention it, Sauron did. . . . it means nothing to me so I won't waste my time. . . .like I said, its all in the name of fun. . . . but facts is facts, any real emcee would give me that match if they had been following events. . . .half of my verse was based around current events that you may not have been abreast of, hence you wouldn't have gotten the joke. . . .but I was writing that verse solely for the judges who had been following events. . . . . the other half followed the same rhymescheme for 8 lines straight, punching every time. . . . and I did not save my best bars for the final. I wrote my verse against Sauron the night before I posted it. . . . otherwise, how did 'Tangents' name crop up in my verse? Did I know of Tangent before? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by chamotex(m): 3:44pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
~Sauron~: It's the Lord's doing bro @ Sauron I actually agree, sometimes I try too hard to look for the right rhymes to match. Sometimes you're in the zone and sometimes you're not. He who prepares better will most probably win. @ Ibime I actually felt ur last verse against Sauron was ur best in the whole tourney. What do you think? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Ibime(m): 3:48pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
chamotex: I write my verses according to the level of competition. No seriously, all the battles I did before were with punchlines I had written like 4 or 5 years ago. I did not know that I could reach that level again, but Sauron brought out the beast in me. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 4:00pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
kaydee: ROFLMAO. A judge has confessed. Letz face it, Chamotex is one lucky dude. How he got to the final reminds me of Hitler's rise to POWER.
The final wasn't WEAK. It's just that the 3rd place match was a billion times QUALITY and it will take an ACT OF GOD for the finalists to match that. Ibime and I wanted y'all judges to realise we shoulda made the FINAL and we gave y'all something that has never been seen on NL before. I also want a re-match for the finalists. . . . . . .Letz see what these cats are made of. There should be no easy ride to NL's greatest rapper TEXT BATTLE. |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Tgirl4real(f): 5:08pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
~Sauron~: Na prayer and fasting dey work o ~Sauron~: Sauron, what are u saying invariably |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by chamotex(m): 5:28pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
~Sauron~: Sauron, are you questioning the credibility of the judges?? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by Sauron1: 6:10pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
Tgirl4real: Chamotex must take me to his Pastor(TB Joshua)
I am saying. . . . . .the final wasn't WEAK The 3rd place made it look watery but trust me. . . . . .i saw skillz in that battle. chamotex: I am questioning ur survival in the tourney. How did u beat Ibime to it? |
Re: Greatest Rapper On Nairaland Final by mailmalc(m): 8:16pm On Jan 26, 2009 |
@Sauron, Ibime, u guyz over-under-estimated us nd u wer' already preparin for the finals without considerin the semis. Yep ! the third place battle was simply off the chain wit nice punches. Mos' Def the best battle in this tourney but still it ain't the finals. My only problem hurr is ~Sauron~ not being able to point out "Multies" outta a complete verse. He just ended up confusin in-rhymes for multis. Let me try break it down, As long as only one syllable rhyme is being maintained then it CAN NEVER be called a multi. Those lines u posted from eminem are perfect examples of multis nd this particular multi was spiced wit in rhymes To get your brain relaxin’, a zany actin’ maniac in action. back to ur so called multis . . . "I’ll imbibe and ride every bride in ur tribe, but I don’t wana ‘borrow-ur-bride’, just wana ‘swallow-ur-pride" bibe, ride, bride, tribe & pride are examples of perfect in-rhymes and nufin close to multi's because "im" came before the bibe, and "ur" can be found before pride, tribe nd bride . . there is no way on earth you can twist your tongue to make im and ur sound similar. Therefore these are just end rhymes beautified with in-rhymes. As for the multis i don't think so. If you could identify the fact that these are multis; My pen and paper cause a chain reactionthen why contradict ur knowlede of the subject? Sauron i can understand u's a big fan of vocabularies nd so u tend to deviate from other essential make-ups! Here'z a lil' piece from Flovocabulary can't believe i'm takin ya back to dat site What’s the difference between multis and in-rhymes? In-rhymes: The fact is I kick phat raps, so know that Not just one, I roll with my crew, you step back (more emphasis on the first line) Multis: Ain’t no need for wondering who’s the man, Staying looking right always an ex[b]clusive brand[/b] (negleting the "ex", u'll get a 3 syllable rhymin scheme so it is qualified to be called a multi-syllable rhyme) PEACE ! ! – Big Daddy Kane, “One Day” |
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